The Avengers thread(may contain spoilers)

[Starman!]

Finally saw it tonight. I think I peed my pants a few times. Just kidding. But seriously, it was awesome!! Loved it!

[Tripe]

I think He has the wrong equipment to make calling him a quim have the same effect as Loki calling Widow that.

Is quim not a slang term in the US? I was kind of surprised that it got through the censors really.

[Tripe]

I mean bravo, it's in keeping with the "all godes talke yn olde worlde English" trope plus it's really something to see the villain call the main female character a cunt in a mostly family (if the kids are older) friendly film, there's no doubt about his character after that.

[MrTorso]

Loki is British? I thought he was from Asgard

[Bob]

Yikes. Bit extreme there, Bob.

Really... if you're that angry, maybe just call him a "mewling quim"* and move on.



*"mewling quim" (c) and TM Loki (via Joss Whedon), 2012

Dog not angry.   Just now has required work to do.

Woof.

[Tripe]

Loki is British? I thought he was from Asgard

it's in keeping with the "all godes talke yn olde worlde English" trope

Rather than simply British he could be 17th century Scots

[LucasM]

[Figures, while I was writing this, the four posts just above were written.  Sorry, I don't have the brain capacity today to edit this to take them into account , so here's what I wrote 'as is'.]

I think He has the wrong equipment to make calling him a quim have the same effect as Loki calling Widow that.

Is quim not a slang term in the US? I was kind of surprised that it got through the censors really.

It's not one most people know.

Yes, the gender-related organs are different for 'Riffman for Hire' and Ms. Romanoff; and yes, 'quim' is equivalent to c*nt.  And it is true Bob calling the 'RfH' wouldn't have the same effect as Loki calling Widow that.  But with Loki appearing to be showing a total lack of respect for females (and with Joss being so proud of the phrase), I just figured it was a nice opportunity to 'get the phrase out there' (as Joss said he was proud of)... with the extreme distaste trumping the 'missed gender', with both being preferable to Bob and his dog hunting 'RfH' down with guns [the starting point of the interchange]. 

Like Im said, the term's rareity is likely why it got through the Marvel(/Disney) censors.  Who knows, with the MPAA it may have just mixed in to the overall film rating.  It was actually the only 'bad word' in the film, to my recollection, so it may have slipped by for that reason too [being unexpected].

[D.B. Barnes]

[Figures, while I was writing this, the four posts just above were written.  Sorry, I don't have the brain capacity today to edit this to take them into account , so here's what I wrote 'as is'.]

I think He has the wrong equipment to make calling him a quim have the same effect as Loki calling Widow that.

Is quim not a slang term in the US? I was kind of surprised that it got through the censors really.

It's not one most people know.

Yes, the gender-related organs are different for 'Riffman for Hire' and Ms. Romanoff; and yes, 'quim' is equivalent to c*nt.  And it is true Bob calling the 'RfH' wouldn't have the same effect as Loki calling Widow that.  But with Loki appearing to be showing a total lack of respect for females (and with Joss being so proud of the phrase), I just figured it was a nice opportunity to 'get the phrase out there' (as Joss said he was proud of)... with the extreme distaste trumping the 'missed gender', with both being preferable to Bob and his dog hunting 'RfH' down with guns [the starting point of the interchange]. 

Like Im said, the term's rareity is likely why it got through the Marvel(/Disney) censors.  Who knows, with the MPAA it may have just mixed in to the overall film rating.  It was actually the only 'bad word' in the film, to my recollection, so it may have slipped by for that reason too [being unexpected].

Would you mind working up a quick info-graphic for that post? 

[Tripe]

Yeah but see, in British slang, a guy calling a guy a cunt implies something a little less offensive. Which is why I was the only person to laugh at Ed's first line in Shaun of the Dead when I watched it.

[LucasM]

Oh well... when I was a teen calling a male a c*nt was roughly equivalent to calling them an asshole or prick [oddly, 'dick' was a 'lesser' derogatory than 'prick'].


[In case anyone wonders: I'm still leaving the 'u' out because I recalled someone massively disliked the word here on the boards.  On a trauma-based board I used to post on, adding * in place of vowels for trigger words was common, so I still maintain that habit.  (Just so no-one gets into it again [as I'm too fuckin' tired to deal with it]: that is my choice for my behavior; I don't expect anyone else to follow suit.)]

LucasM out for the night!
[I'm gonna' go downstairs and watch Thor and Captain America tonight if I can manage both... I watched the Incredible Hulk three nights ago, Iron Man the next night, and Iron Man 2 last night... prepping myself to go see Avengers again (hopefully) soon.]

[100dollars]

Quick:  name every Avenger you can think of in 1 minute.  No repeats in this thread.  No Google. GO

[Rainbow Dash]

Batman

[LucasM]

[I did manage to watch both Thor and Cap tonight.  Nice variety for a double-feature.]

This post isn't specifically Avengers-movie related, but it involves one of their members, and an event that was seen multiple times in the film, so I figured I'd put the question here.

OK... I first read Captain America in the late 60s (then I got and read all the back Tales of Suspense issues [already had all the Avengers]).  I just watched the film again.  For some damn reason [*cough* past capacity *cough*] I read the 'Cap FAQ' on iMdB in which it went into a bit of detail on the creation of Cap's shield.  The phrasing of their statement on the shield's composition got me thinking.

And tonight - after knowing about the character for over 40 years [though not paying active attention to it for probably 25-30 of that] - a question came to me that I have never seen asked or addressed anywhere:


If Cap's shield is made of vibranium, which can absorb the impact of a fist from the Hulk or a pounding from Thor's hammer without Cap's arm breaking...
                                       ... when he throws it, how does it bounce off of anything to return to him?


The impact of striking whatever should be absorbed by the shield and it should immediately fall to the ground dead, just as [in the Cap Am film] Carter's bullets did in the initial 'testing' of the shield right after Cap picked it off the lower shelf of Stark's shield workbench.

I have my own theory that in the 'mixture' of the two metals making up the shield, the vibranium was for 'front-to-back'/convex-surface impact-absorbtion, while the other metal was for circular-ring 'bounce' but I have never seen anything official which addressed this.  Anyone ever seen an official comment on that?  [In the Marvel Encyclopedias they used to put out or something equally as definitive?]  No need to quote it with full bibliography-like citation , just the basic idea and roughly where it was presented would be nice.

"... it is just a fictional character
      I should really just relax..."

[Pak-Man]

Quick:  name every Avenger you can think of in 1 minute.  No repeats in this thread.  No Google. GO

Thor, Capt. America, Hulk, Wasp, Giant Man/Ant Man, Iron Man, Black Widow, Spider-Man, Wolverine, She-Hulk - And I ran out of time.

[Tripe]

Quick:  name every Avenger you can think of in 1 minute.  No repeats in this thread.  No Google. GO

John Steed, Emma Peel,  Dr. David Keel, Venus Smith, Cathy Gale, Tara King, Mike Gambit and Purdey.