The Dark Knight Rises

[RoninFox]

I really do want to know more about what exactly happened to Bane. He says that taking the mask off would cause a lot of pain. And when Batman breaks it we hear gas coming out. Plus there's that scar going all the way down his spine. I guess there's a tube running from the mask and under his skin? They didn't say what kind of plague hit the prison either.

Yeah, I agree. I don't think they explained that very well.

I got the impression that he's constantly having to inhale powerful painkillers or something, and that the mask was also holding parts of his face together.  Not sure if I just came up with that on my own, or if I could point to anything specific in the movie, will have to watch it again to be sure.

[MrTorso]

I got the impression that he's constantly having to inhale powerful painkillers or something, and that the mask was also holding parts of his face together.  Not sure if I just came up with that on my own, or if I could point to anything specific in the movie, will have to watch it again to be sure.

I don't think there is anything specific in the movie except the exposition about the mask keeping the pain in I know that I read an article somewhere that instead of the drug/steroid Venom as in  the comics it was some type of pain killer

[Rainbow Dash]

Film comes full circle, like poetry.

[Russell]

Film comes full circle, like poetry.

George Lucas: It's like poetry, so that they rhyme.... Hopefully it'll work

[wurwolf]

Read this review of The Dark Knight Rises (or, as my mother called it, "Night Life"). Just a warning, there are massive spoilers in the article so don't read it unless you've seen the movie.

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/07/24/dark-knight-rises-review-logic-symbolism-christopher-nolan-batman/#ixzz21Yh6fO5X

It was an interesting read, but now I'm wondering just what the hell I was watching. I remember very little of what was discussed in this article; the whole middle of the movie was kind of boring so I pretty much just zoned out. I have no idea, for instance, who Joseph Blake killed (or even who he was at first). I still can't remember who he killed or why.

I do agree about Tom Hardy's voice, though, and I just looked up his picture and omg he is a total babe.

[Relaxing Dragon]

I'm seeing it again to get a better hold on things. I'm still digging it in my head, but it remains to be seen if everything holds up on a second viewing. I'll do a big write up afterword (which will be most repetition by now).

Meanwhile:

[MontyServo]

I have no idea, for instance, who Joseph Blake killed (or even who he was at first). I still can't remember who he killed or why.

I am drawing a blank as well.  A lot of stuff happens in that movie, it is easy to forget some of the smaller details.

[wurwolf]

Evidently it was a huge plot point!

That's the thing that gets me about these Christopher Nolan movies. He has a tendency to let them become convoluted and difficult to follow. Inception was completely retarded with that. I dislike movies to begin with so popcorn movies is about my level. I find myself liking the actors as the characters they play more than the actual movie itself.

[Russell]

Evidently it was a huge plot point!

That's the thing that gets me about these Christopher Nolan movies. He has a tendency to let them become convoluted and difficult to follow. Inception was completely retarded with that. I dislike movies to begin with so popcorn movies is about my level. I find myself liking the actors as the characters they play more than the actual movie itself.

I'll take Christopher Nolan's film-making over anything else out there today. I'm much more happy watching something "convoluted and difficult to follow" any day over something that outright insults my intelligence.

[Riffman for Hire]

There was some really sloppy stuff in the film.  For example, misspelling heist in a news article.  Two hundred and fifty million dollars and they can't use a spell checker?  And nobody caught that during editing?  And I wasn't even looking to nitpick things--I really wanted to enjoy myself.

Also the stock market chase.  In one part it's day, the next it's night.  Where's the transition?

[ScottotD]

Well, they did mention it was 4am or so at the start of the raid

I have no idea, for instance, who Joseph Blake killed (or even who he was at first). I still can't remember who he killed or why.

I am drawing a blank as well.  A lot of stuff happens in that movie, it is easy to forget some of the smaller details.

After he was made detective he went to the sewers and saw the same truck driver he saw at the stock market raid and accidentally shot him

[wurwolf]

Evidently it was a huge plot point!

That's the thing that gets me about these Christopher Nolan movies. He has a tendency to let them become convoluted and difficult to follow. Inception was completely retarded with that. I dislike movies to begin with so popcorn movies is about my level. I find myself liking the actors as the characters they play more than the actual movie itself.

I'll take Christopher Nolan's film-making over anything else out there today. I'm much more happy watching something "convoluted and difficult to follow" any day over something that outright insults my intelligence.

Does it have to be either or? Is it too much to ask to have a movie that's neither convoluted nor insulting to my intelligence? I love giant robots beating the shit out of each other but it's not as though I didn't think Michael Bay's Transformers didn't have godawful problems.

[Russell]

Does it have to be either or? Is it too much to ask to have a movie that's neither convoluted nor insulting to my intelligence? I love giant robots beating the shit out of each other but it's not as though I didn't think Michael Bay's Transformers didn't have godawful problems.

I personally want a film that challenges me intellectually. I want it to keep me actively thinking and guessing what's going to happen next, as I believe that's the hallmark of the best cinema.

[wurwolf]

Does it have to be either or? Is it too much to ask to have a movie that's neither convoluted nor insulting to my intelligence? I love giant robots beating the shit out of each other but it's not as though I didn't think Michael Bay's Transformers didn't have godawful problems.

I personally want a film that challenges me intellectually. I want it to keep me actively thinking and guessing what's going to happen next, as I believe that's the hallmark of the best cinema.

So you prefer movies that are needlessly complicated?

[Russell]

Does it have to be either or? Is it too much to ask to have a movie that's neither convoluted nor insulting to my intelligence? I love giant robots beating the shit out of each other but it's not as though I didn't think Michael Bay's Transformers didn't have godawful problems.

I personally want a film that challenges me intellectually. I want it to keep me actively thinking and guessing what's going to happen next, as I believe that's the hallmark of the best cinema.

So you prefer movies that are needlessly complicated?

Heh, I guess I do...