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The Dark Knight Rises

Started by Scribblesense, October 28, 2010, 07:27:31 PM

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TTYT

#45
Quote from: The Manatee on November 19, 2010, 02:21:57 PM
The problem here is most the original batman villains are just ridiculous, almost as bad as most of spiderman's. The good ones that could possibly be in a serious movie have been used up aside from the riddler, so what's left? Also twoface is a good character but damn the guy playing him was just awful, a blight on every scene he was in so he better not be back.

No, Dent's dead. I still think Black Mask would work. That, or the Penguin - he could add an extra layer of tension, what with him working as both a villain to Batman and as a financial competitor to Bruce Wayne.

Or maybe we could just FINALLY get Harley Quinn in a movie, maybe having her come in to take over what the Joker was doing

Or, for all we know, they could have Joker back, played by a different person and written to be just slightly different. Still Joker, but different. Like maybe he's cleaned up like his comic incarnation and is slightly more clownish, but not much. Sort of like how they wrote him for Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker or Arkham Asylum. I mean, it's Joker - he operates with no rhyme or reason, so it'd paradoxically make sense that his personality is just slightly different every time he appears.

EDIT: Apparently I missed where Nolan thinks the Penguin probably won't be it, and the rumour that there's gonna be a female villain... Please be Harley Quinn, please be Harley Quinn...

Oh, and also, this movie's gonna end the storyline. Good to know they're not gonna let this run on forever.

The Manatee

Quote from: TTYT on November 20, 2010, 03:35:46 AM
Quote from: The Manatee on November 19, 2010, 02:21:57 PM
The problem here is most the original batman villains are just ridiculous, almost as bad as most of spiderman's. The good ones that could possibly be in a serious movie have been used up aside from the riddler, so what's left? Also twoface is a good character but damn the guy playing him was just awful, a blight on every scene he was in so he better not be back.

No, Dent's dead. I still think Black Mask would work. That, or the Penguin - he could add an extra layer of tension, what with him working as both a villain to Batman and as a financial competitor to Bruce Wayne.

Or maybe we could just FINALLY get Harley Quinn in a movie, maybe having her come in to take over what the Joker was doing

Or, for all we know, they could have Joker back, played by a different person and written to be just slightly different. Still Joker, but different. Like maybe he's cleaned up like his comic incarnation and is slightly more clownish, but not much. Sort of like how they wrote him for Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker or Arkham Asylum. I mean, it's Joker - he operates with no rhyme or reason, so it'd paradoxically make sense that his personality is just slightly different every time he appears.

EDIT: Apparently I missed where Nolan thinks the Penguin probably won't be it, and the rumour that there's gonna be a female villain... Please be Harley Quinn, please be Harley Quinn...

Oh, and also, this movie's gonna end the storyline. Good to know they're not gonna let this run on forever.

Harley Quinn is cool but I don't know how she'd work out on here own. They never really set her up in the dark knight. Making her super grimdark would also eliminate most of her charm.

I guess it must be poison ivy? I guess that could be ok depending on how they do it.

Johnny Unusual

Quote from: The Manatee on November 20, 2010, 12:26:38 PM
Quote from: TTYT on November 20, 2010, 03:35:46 AM
Quote from: The Manatee on November 19, 2010, 02:21:57 PM
The problem here is most the original batman villains are just ridiculous, almost as bad as most of spiderman's. The good ones that could possibly be in a serious movie have been used up aside from the riddler, so what's left? Also twoface is a good character but damn the guy playing him was just awful, a blight on every scene he was in so he better not be back.

No, Dent's dead. I still think Black Mask would work. That, or the Penguin - he could add an extra layer of tension, what with him working as both a villain to Batman and as a financial competitor to Bruce Wayne.

Or maybe we could just FINALLY get Harley Quinn in a movie, maybe having her come in to take over what the Joker was doing

Or, for all we know, they could have Joker back, played by a different person and written to be just slightly different. Still Joker, but different. Like maybe he's cleaned up like his comic incarnation and is slightly more clownish, but not much. Sort of like how they wrote him for Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker or Arkham Asylum. I mean, it's Joker - he operates with no rhyme or reason, so it'd paradoxically make sense that his personality is just slightly different every time he appears.

EDIT: Apparently I missed where Nolan thinks the Penguin probably won't be it, and the rumour that there's gonna be a female villain... Please be Harley Quinn, please be Harley Quinn...

Oh, and also, this movie's gonna end the storyline. Good to know they're not gonna let this run on forever.

Harley Quinn is cool but I don't know how she'd work out on here own. They never really set her up in the dark knight. Making her super grimdark would also eliminate most of her charm.

I guess it must be poison ivy? I guess that could be ok depending on how they do it.

I don't think Ivy would be in it.  I think they can do a largely less sci-fi version of her, but I don't really see how her plant obsession would fit in with the larger themes (order, chaos, the law, etc.) of the series so far.

Darth Geek

I could certainly see them trying to do Catwoman, since she doesn't really have any powers (movie incarnations notwithstanding). But I cannot see her lasting in a fight against Christian Bale in full battle gear with extensive ninja training. In these super serious Batman movies he would have no problem hitting a woman. I'm concerned that they would have to severely reduce his fighting ability to try to make it convincing (as they did in Batman Returns, and that was just Michael Keaton). Hopefully they'll get one hell of a fight choreographer!


anais.jude

Ya know, if they decide it will be catwoman, I think Summer Glau is the only choice

Scribblesense

Quote from: anais.jude on November 21, 2010, 10:01:54 PM
Ya know, if they decide it will be catwoman, I think Summer Glau is the only choice

The poor girl would never get a moment's peace if she landed that role.

Not to mention the strength of the geek community's collective nerdgasm would throw the earth off its axis and send it hurtling into the sun.

But it would be so, so worth it.
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The Manatee

If it's catwoman it certainly gives new light to the name the dark knight rises.

Why fool myself? I guess it has to be catwoman but she's just not much of a villain, more like a frenemy with benefits. I don't think she could carry a whole movie.

TTYT

#52
It's probably going to be Talia, I suspect.

But who knows? Maybe all that stuff is just more misdirection and we'll get Deathstroke - played by Ron Perlman, of course - attempting to hunt down Batman before Gordon gets him (or Deadshot, though he already appeared in one of the Gotham Knight shorts.)

Tripe


Darth Geek

Quote from: TTYT on November 22, 2010, 02:23:26 AM


But who knows? Maybe all that stuff is just more misdirection and we'll get Deathstroke - played by Ron Perlman, of course - attempting to hunt down Batman before Gordon gets him (or Deadshot, though he already appeared in one of the Gotham Knight shorts.)
That would be awesome!


pezdrake

Or they could really surprise us and cast the Riddler (or other villain) as a female.

Darth Geek

Quote from: pezdrake on November 22, 2010, 05:42:50 AM
Or they could really surprise us and cast the Riddler (or other villain) as a female.
I wouldn't like that because it goes against the comic just for the sake of going against the comic. They cast The Kingpin as black just because Michael Clark Duncan is one of the few people in the world who could physically play that character, and he's a good actor. That's a good reason to change something (and most importantly, they didn't change his personality just because the actor was black). Changing the Riddler to a female just to get another hot actress in the movie, when there are plenty of good actors who can play the role, that's just shameful.


ScottotD

Quote from: Darth Geek on November 22, 2010, 05:51:41 AM
Quote from: pezdrake on November 22, 2010, 05:42:50 AM
Or they could really surprise us and cast the Riddler (or other villain) as a female.
I wouldn't like that because it goes against the comic just for the sake of going against the comic. They cast The Kingpin as black just because Michael Clark Duncan is one of the few people in the world who could physically play that character, and he's a good actor. That's a good reason to change something (and most importantly, they didn't change his personality just because the actor was black). Changing the Riddler to a female just to get another hot actress in the movie, when there are plenty of good actors who can play the role, that's just shameful.

Yeah, when I think Chris Nolan movie.  Pointless T & A is what springs to mind first  :P
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Quote from: anais.jude on November 21, 2010, 10:01:54 PM
Ya know, if they decide it will be catwoman, I think Summer Glau is the only choice

Somebody photoshop this. Now. For, um, no reason.

Tripe

Quote from: anais.jude on November 21, 2010, 10:01:54 PM
Ya know, if they decide it will be catwoman, I think Summer Glau is the only choice
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