I don't understand this movie.

[NRRork]

Actually, I think a lot of that is a little flimsy anyway since it wasn't Harry that made the agreement.

BUT, I believe the Goblet THINKS he did. It's been awhile since I read Goblet of Fire, but I think that was part of the charm Imposter-Moody put on the goblet. One part was to make it think Harry was of age, and the other was to make it think Harry had put the name in himself. And, after a visit to Harry Potter Lexicon, I see he also fooled the goblet into thinking Harry's name was for a fourth school, and therefore he'd be the only applicant from said school, ensuring his name would be picked.

I forget where I'm going with this, I'm very tired. Class is over now, so I'm going home and getting some sleep. ^_^

THIS was how it went in the book, for anyone interested.

[CHF01]

The books offer allot more explanation than the movies. Goblet of Fire is a high level fly by of a movie compared to the novel.

[Thrifty]

My coffee mug is smarter than that damn goblet.

[NRRork]

I've always defended a lot of "plot holes" that fans have accused Rowling of leaving in her books, though.

But, for me, I enjoyed the books so much and the ride they took me on that I didn't really care about whether or not there would've been a simpler way to do it. I liked it as it was. And to a degree, I think people have to allow that in books and movies, etc.

I mean, if everything in fiction was always totally realistic, it'd juts be real life. And we already have that. Real, everyday life is kinda mundane. Even if you like your job and are content, a book featuring a year of your life probably wouldn't be the biggest page-turner.

I'll speculate on this stuff because it's FUN, and I like to do it, but ultimately, if it's entertaining, I like it.

Sort of like how people don't watch porn for the dialogue.

[Indomitus]

Sort of like how people don't watch porn for the dialogue.

Except me. 'Cause they're all really great actors.

Wow.  Almost said that with a straight face.   

[anais.jude]

I hate the dumbass director of the third movie the most.

THANK YOU!

[ShadowDog]

Heh.  Don't encourage me.  I wrote a really long thesis one time about how much and exactly why he sucks.  LOL

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Well, we don't know what the consequences of "Magically Binding Contract" are, but I bet they're a lot worse than just violating a legally binding contract. Maybe his lungs would have been teleported into the goblet of fire the moment he reneged just so he could watch his own vital organs char. Artifacts can be bitchy like that.

Speaking generally though, there seems to be a higher than standard level of "potential lethality as comedy" present in the Harry Potter series, and when an inept direct tries to play this angle up and make it seem like serious threat rather than hyperbolic wackyness, you get, well, thisness.

[anais.jude]

Heh.  Don't encourage me.  I wrote a really long thesis one time about how much and exactly why he sucks.  LOL

I would very much like to read that! Yes, I am that nerdy

[arutha1000]

The whole "magical binding contract" thing is so lame. In the book, they make it abundantly clear that you can quit any challenge at any time if you can't complete it. That's why Fleur wasn't killed by the Grindylows in the water challenge, she just quit and called for help, and thus couldn't complete the task. So instead of saying "I refuse this competition" and break the so called contract, you can just give up at the beginning of any task and call it a day.

I enjoy the books, but the magic in Harry Potter is so arbitrary is should be called plot contrivance instead. There was no fourth school, Harry didn't write his name,but this super-mega powerful goblet of fire is fooled by someone without any remarkable magic skill (that we are made aware of). I could go on, but I'll just end with the example of the Marauders Map. Four 4th year students created a device that is the ultimate security system, yet nobody else in the entire world can replicate their magic (not Dumbledore, not the ministry of magic, nobody). Oh, and they have time machines...ugh.

[FordPrefect]

Heh.  Don't encourage me.  I wrote a really long thesis one time about how much and exactly why he sucks.  LOL

I would very much like to read that! Yes, I am that nerdy

I certainly wouldn't mind giving it a read as well.  It sounds like it would fit in here nicely.

[THE QUEEN!!!]

That one kid died at the end, so everyone was all somber.

Except it was stated from the outset that the tournament was life threatening.

And the second event involved chaining four kids to the ocean floor.

And why couldn't Harry say "fuck this tournament, I'm not interested"?

And if the tournament was life threatening, why do they do it, and why do parents let them? See, that's why I think the death would have been more effective if no one had EVER died in the tournament before, so it was really shocking to have a kid die. But that's just me.

Harry having to compete anyway made sense because they explained once you put your name in you're bound by magic to compete. But that might have been in the book

[ShadowDog]

Heh.  Don't encourage me.  I wrote a really long thesis one time about how much and exactly why he sucks.  LOL

I would very much like to read that! Yes, I am that nerdy

I certainly wouldn't mind giving it a read as well.  It sounds like it would fit in here nicely.

Oh sweet, just noticed this.  Okay, I'll look for it.  Heh.

[The Manatee]

Actually, I think a lot of that is a little flimsy anyway since it wasn't Harry that made the agreement.

BUT, I believe the Goblet THINKS he did. It's been awhile since I read Goblet of Fire, but I think that was part of the charm Imposter-Moody put on the goblet. One part was to make it think Harry was of age, and the other was to make it think Harry had put the name in himself. And, after a visit to Harry Potter Lexicon, I see he also fooled the goblet into thinking Harry's name was for a fourth school, and therefore he'd be the only applicant from said school, ensuring his name would be picked.

I forget where I'm going with this, I'm very tired. Class is over now, so I'm going home and getting some sleep. ^_^

THIS was how it went in the book, for anyone interested.

But they wanted to figure out the trap by springing it, though of course nothing they did foiled anything and so the kid got killed.

I don't know, everything is such whimsical nonsense anyway it's silly to get caught up in logic when you have kids eating puke flavored jelly beans then going back for another.

[Darkwalker]

So he couldn't opt out...  okay...  Have they never heard the word "disqualification"?

I don't think anything short of dry humping Fleur, attacking someone, or whizzing on a teacher would disqualify him.