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Started by Doctor Who?, March 18, 2009, 07:22:26 AM

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Doctor Who?

Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on March 20, 2009, 08:05:18 AM
Quote from: gbeenie on March 19, 2009, 11:25:43 AM
So you're saying tragedy isn't tragic if you have money?
I'm saying that payback is a bitch.

Under that logic anyone who has less money then you has the right to kill you and take everything you own.

Ever owned anything or worn anything made in the third world?

Ever worked for a company who makes money off of the third world?

You are exploiting the poor there.

This is why class warfare is a bad idea.

Everyone is richer then someone and everyone exploits someone else.

It's the way an imperfect world works.

Tripe

No see there is a huge difference between people having differing amounts of money and the serf and aristocrat society that existed in pre-revolutionary Russia.

Had Alexander II's constitution gone into effect there might well have been greater universal equanimity in Russian society, however it didn't and so by the time of Nicholas II there was quite the toxic stew bubbling away leading to rounds of some pretty horrific atrocities, which also included the horrible deaths of four young girls and their invalid brother in a basement in Yekaterinburg (say what you like about their parents but the children, especially the girls made the best of their station, they should have amended the rules to allow Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna to replace her father).


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Quote from: Doctor Who? on March 23, 2009, 07:19:59 PM
Ever owned anything or worn anything made in the third world?

Ever worked for a company who makes money off of the third world?

Thanks to that damn company you work for, do I have a choice anymore?

Doctor Who?

You could choose to live off the land and do honest work.

you didn't you are guilty.

You want to draw a line and say all people on one side are pure good all people on the other side are pure evil and should be killed with out mercy or remorse.

The world doesn't work like that.

Compared to 60% of the world's population you are super rich and yes you have a choice we all have a choice.

I never said was I better then the rest of mankind you are the one passing judgment and saying calling for all rich people to be murdered.

Under your logic anyone in the third world should murder you because you have not taken a stand.

You could choose not to rape the third world but you would rather post on the internet then live the way you judge others for not living.

Clean your own house before judging other people.

Tripe

No I really don't think she said any of that, her comment was specifically about pre-revolutionary Russia. And I've already spoke about that.

Doctor Who?

Sorry but the Russian revolution was the mass slaughter of the "evil rich" she said pay back is a bitch.

In other words she is saying that if a poor person kills a rich person you have no right to feel sorry for the rich person.

I am just pointing out that under her logic she is part of today's "evil rich".

The only difforance between us and the rich of Russia is that we keep the people we exploit out of eyesight so we can pretend we are better then the people in the past.

The fact is we are no better.

The world works the way it always has, a few people get rich off of the backs of slaves.

Tripe

Quote from: Doctor Who? on March 24, 2009, 07:02:53 PM
Sorry but the Russian revolution was the mass slaughter of the "evil rich" she said pay back is a bitch.

In other words she is saying that if a poor person kills a rich person you have no right to feel sorry for the rich person.

I am just pointing out that under her logic she is part of today's "evil rich".

The only difforance between us and the rich of Russia is that we keep the people we exploit out of eyesight so we can pretend we are better then the people in the past.

The fact is we are no better.

The world works the way it always has, a few people get rich off of the backs of slaves.

You need to go read some more about Russia. You have no idea how unlike the Russian aristocracy people who happen to live in the first world are.

So again, her comment was specifically about the pre-revolutionary society in Russia not anything to do with modern society.

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The only difforance between us and the rich of Russia is that we keep the people we exploit out of eyesight so we can pretend we are better then the people in the past.

Is complete and utter bollocks.

The revolution was atrocious but it was not simply caused by some sort of resentment of rich vs poor. Go and read up on it's causes (something a couple of hundred years in the making) then come back and make some informed comments.

Doctor Who?

I never said it was what I am saying is everything we have is built on our oppressing the third world where do you think your nice cheap computer comes from?

Under the logic that what happened in Russia was ok the people of the third world have the right to rise up and kill us the same as the poor did in Russia and no one should feel sorry for us.

The people in the third world are the modern slaves and surfs.

If mercy was limited to those who deserve it none of us would be very well off.

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Tripe

Quote from: Doctor Who? on March 24, 2009, 07:13:10 PM
I never said it was what I am saying is everything we have is built on our oppressing the third world where do you think your nice cheap computer comes from?

Under the logic that what happened in Russia was ok the people of the third world have the right to rise up and kill us the same as the poor did in Russia and no one should feel sorry for us.

The people in the third world are the modern slaves and surfs.


Again, she was talking about pre-revolutionary Russia so you've created an argument for yourself where none existed. You said "well based on your logic, blahg blah blah".

Well no, based on her logic it was still just a comment about pre-revolutionary Russia. Which we've established you know nothing about because if you did you' not be comparing modern society or the socio-political dynamics therein to it.

Doctor Who?

She was standing in judgment of those people and saying we shouldn't feel sorry for them.

I am just pointing out that we are very much the same.

Man really hasn't changed that much in the past 100 years.

Tripe

Evidently you don't even know the details of what happened in the revolution.

Pay back was indeed a bitch

Again you have no idea what you are talking about, I'd suggest you cease talking about this subject.

Doctor Who?

I am just saying we deserve payback too.

You need to read up on where all your nice stuff comes from.

You have no idea how the modern world works.

Computers would be $10,000 a piece if we were not exploiting the third world.

Don't even get me started on cloths or oil.

Tripe

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So you agree with the point of view she didn't express then? Why are you so upset?

And you still know nothing about the subject of p[re-revolutionary Russia.