The Mega-Super-Ultra Buffy/Angel Episode Guide

[Tripe]

Hulu Episode Link:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/97/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-out-of-mindout-of-sight

Episode 111 - Out of Mind,....Out of Sight

    Another low-rent X-files reject episode.  Not to say it wasn't overall enjoyable, it was still just kinda dumb, and unsubtly an obvious allegory:  Unpopular people feel invisible.  No shit.  And one of the more disappointing aspects of the episode was the fact that one of my favorite actresses, Clea Duvall, wasn't actually onscreen for most of the episode, using the same hackneyed method of portraying an invisible person: " Let's shoot the camera at fuckin' nothing while the actor reads his lines in ADR"  Also, at the end of the episode, Marcy is conscripted in a secret government agency (which could be The Initiative), but nothing is ever mentioned about it again, which kinda sucks.

  I enjoyed Cordelia's distilling of The Merchant of Venice's Shylock as being " self-involved and whiny.  Leave it to Cordy to cut through the bullshit and go right to the matter.  When she's not playing Queen Bitch, she's quite remarkable, and I enjoy that aspect of her character.  Thankfully, she'll play a larger part in the episodes to follow, especially in the next episode.....

  Overall, a watchable episode, but again, not exactly great, and other shows have done the concept better.

Tommorrow: Propechy Girl!  Please contain the Buffy-gasms 'till i post the review!!!!

Do you know how many letters the comic gets asking for Marcy to show up? She is an inexplicably popular character.

[dignan]

Within the context of Joss' use of postmodernism throughout the entire fourth season, I can definitely see where Joss was going w/ it. However, "Restless" fell very, very flat for me and came across rather indulgent. Especially in wake of what precluded it w/ the ground-breaking "Hush", and the mind-blowing two-parter in "This Year's Girl"/"Who Are You?". "Hush" deserves all the accolades it does receive (I've been extolling it for some time), but philosophically speaking, TYG/WAY? is an absolute thrill-ride and then some. I'm looking forward to touching upon it when the time comes around. I always point to it to illustrate why Buffy is SO much more than meets the eye. It's genius.

"Restless", blah. I'll pass on the cheese. 

See, people always latched onto the cheese guy and that damn cat.  Everything else going on was what made the episode for me.  Plus it has Riley's best moment in the series ever, as the cowboy in Death of A Salesman. 

Hulu Episode Link:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/97/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-out-of-mindout-of-sight

Episode 111 - Out of Mind,....Out of Sight

    Another low-rent X-files reject episode.  Not to say it wasn't overall enjoyable, it was still just kinda dumb, and unsubtly an obvious allegory:  Unpopular people feel invisible.  No shit.  And one of the more disappointing aspects of the episode was the fact that one of my favorite actresses, Clea Duvall, wasn't actually onscreen for most of the episode, using the same hackneyed method of portraying an invisible person: " Let's shoot the camera at fuckin' nothing while the actor reads his lines in ADR"  Also, at the end of the episode, Marcy is conscripted in a secret government agency (which could be The Initiative), but nothing is ever mentioned about it again, which kinda sucks.

  I enjoyed Cordelia's distilling of The Merchant of Venice's Shylock as being " self-involved and whiny.  Leave it to Cordy to cut through the bullshit and go right to the matter.  When she's not playing Queen Bitch, she's quite remarkable, and I enjoy that aspect of her character.  Thankfully, she'll play a larger part in the episodes to follow, especially in the next episode.....

  Overall, a watchable episode, but again, not exactly great, and other shows have done the concept better.

Tommorrow: Propechy Girl!  Please contain the Buffy-gasms 'till i post the review!!!!

Not a great episode, but one of the first times they give Cordelia an opportunity to do more than be obnoxious.  It's nice to see her drop her guard a little, while still retaining the notion that everything that's happening is Buffy and the gang's fault. 

[TeamRAD]

Hulu Episode Link:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/97/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-out-of-mindout-of-sight

Episode 111 - Out of Mind,....Out of Sight

    Another low-rent X-files reject episode.  Not to say it wasn't overall enjoyable, it was still just kinda dumb, and unsubtly an obvious allegory:  Unpopular people feel invisible.  No shit.  And one of the more disappointing aspects of the episode was the fact that one of my favorite actresses, Clea Duvall, wasn't actually onscreen for most of the episode, using the same hackneyed method of portraying an invisible person: " Let's shoot the camera at fuckin' nothing while the actor reads his lines in ADR"  Also, at the end of the episode, Marcy is conscripted in a secret government agency (which could be The Initiative), but nothing is ever mentioned about it again, which kinda sucks.

  I enjoyed Cordelia's distilling of The Merchant of Venice's Shylock as being " self-involved and whiny.  Leave it to Cordy to cut through the bullshit and go right to the matter.  When she's not playing Queen Bitch, she's quite remarkable, and I enjoy that aspect of her character.  Thankfully, she'll play a larger part in the episodes to follow, especially in the next episode.....

  Overall, a watchable episode, but again, not exactly great, and other shows have done the concept better.

Tommorrow: Propechy Girl!  Please contain the Buffy-gasms 'till i post the review!!!!

Do you know how many letters the comic gets asking for Marcy to show up? She is an inexplicably popular character.

That's amused me. I did forget about her until Scott Allie brought light of the above to our attention in the "Slay the Critics" portion of a particular book in the Season Eight run. Tripe, did you by chance read #25 yet, and the seven-paragraph rant on the misuse of Xander in StC? It's entertaining.

Within the context of Joss' use of postmodernism throughout the entire fourth season, I can definitely see where Joss was going w/ it. However, "Restless" fell very, very flat for me and came across rather indulgent. Especially in wake of what precluded it w/ the ground-breaking "Hush", and the mind-blowing two-parter in "This Year's Girl"/"Who Are You?". "Hush" deserves all the accolades it does receive (I've been extolling it for some time), but philosophically speaking, TYG/WAY? is an absolute thrill-ride and then some. I'm looking forward to touching upon it when the time comes around. I always point to it to illustrate why Buffy is SO much more than meets the eye. It's genius.

"Restless", blah. I'll pass on the cheese. 

See, people always latched onto the cheese guy and that damn cat.  Everything else going on was what made the episode for me.  Plus it has Riley's best moment in the series ever, as the cowboy in Death of A Salesman. 

Latched onto the Cheese Guy? It was just a mere reference if anything. And outside of his appearance to date in Season Eight and serving as a tool whereas Buffy could call him "Teutonic", I don't believe he has ever had a best moment. 

[Courtney]

Within the context of Joss' use of postmodernism throughout the entire fourth season, I can definitely see where Joss was going w/ it. However, "Restless" fell very, very flat for me and came across rather indulgent. Especially in wake of what precluded it w/ the ground-breaking "Hush", and the mind-blowing two-parter in "This Year's Girl"/"Who Are You?". "Hush" deserves all the accolades it does receive (I've been extolling it for some time), but philosophically speaking, TYG/WAY? is an absolute thrill-ride and then some. I'm looking forward to touching upon it when the time comes around. I always point to it to illustrate why Buffy is SO much more than meets the eye. It's genius.

"Restless", blah. I'll pass on the cheese. 

See, people always latched onto the cheese guy and that damn cat.  Everything else going on was what made the episode for me.  Plus it has Riley's best moment in the series ever, as the cowboy in Death of A Salesman. 

Cowboy Guy!  Seriously, the Death of a Salesman bit might be one of my top five favorite moments of the whole series.  Bless Marc Blucas's heart.  Riley sucked, but he seemed like an affable chap.

I love Restless. 

[TeamRAD]

Within the context of Joss' use of postmodernism throughout the entire fourth season, I can definitely see where Joss was going w/ it. However, "Restless" fell very, very flat for me and came across rather indulgent. Especially in wake of what precluded it w/ the ground-breaking "Hush", and the mind-blowing two-parter in "This Year's Girl"/"Who Are You?". "Hush" deserves all the accolades it does receive (I've been extolling it for some time), but philosophically speaking, TYG/WAY? is an absolute thrill-ride and then some. I'm looking forward to touching upon it when the time comes around. I always point to it to illustrate why Buffy is SO much more than meets the eye. It's genius.

"Restless", blah. I'll pass on the cheese. 

See, people always latched onto the cheese guy and that damn cat.  Everything else going on was what made the episode for me.  Plus it has Riley's best moment in the series ever, as the cowboy in Death of A Salesman. 

Cowboy Guy!  Seriously, the Death of a Salesman bit might be one of my top five favorite moments of the whole series.  Bless Marc Blucas's heart.  Riley sucked, but he seemed like an affable chap.

I love Restless. 

*shakes head*

You'll have to give me notice when your "Beer Bad" defense is coming so I can prepare some Jiffy Pop in advance. 

[Courtney]

Oh you just wait.  I'll defend it with my life.

[dignan]

Latched onto the Cheese Guy? It was just a mere reference if anything. And outside of his appearance to date in Season Eight and serving as a tool whereas Buffy could call him "Teutonic", I don't believe he has ever had a best moment. 

Oh, I didn't mean you were latching onto the Cheese guy, I just meant that he gained this like, weird significance amongst fans for the rest of the show's run as a result, and it was a fascination I just never shared. 

Cowboy Guy!  Seriously, the Death of a Salesman bit might be one of my top five favorite moments of the whole series.  Bless Marc Blucas's heart.  Riley sucked, but he seemed like an affable chap.

I love Restless. 

"I'm looking for a man...a SALES man."

Also, I've got your back on Beer Bad, Court. 

[TeamRAD]

The one thing "Beer Bad" does have going for itself, it isn't Episode 610, "Wrecked"...Worst.Episode.Ever. "Beer Bad" is next in line. 

I loathe Marti Noxon so very much. The only weak link (I don't include Tracey Forbes b/c she only wrote three epis) in the TeamJoss chain.

[Courtney]

"I'm looking for a man...a SALES man."

Men.  With your SALES.

And Anya doing standup?  GENIUS.  "Quiet.  You'll miss the humorous conclusion!"

The one thing "Beer Bad" does have going for itself, it isn't Episode 610, "Wrecked"...

I'll take that over "Where The Wild Things Are" any day.  Next to "I Robot" it's the worst.

[dignan]

The one thing "Beer Bad" does have going for itself, it isn't Episode 610, "Wrecked"...Worst.Episode.Ever. "Beer Bad" is next in line. 

I loathe Marti Noxon so very much. The only weak link (I don't include Tracey Forbes b/c she only wrote three epis) in the TeamJoss chain.

Gotta agree with you on Wrecked...Buffy served up a few duffers in its day, but Wrecked is the only one that comes to mind that comes off as one giant unpleasant mess.  Then again, there are whole swaths of seasons 5, 6, and 7 that I could do without.  Heh.

[TeamRAD]

The one thing "Beer Bad" does have going for itself, it isn't Episode 610, "Wrecked"...

I'll take that over "Where The Wild Things Are" any day.  Next to "I Robot" it's the worst.

The former is BAD, but I did reference Forbes so I'm good. 

My antipathy for 610 is the pathetic drug/magic allusion for which was too  "ABC Afterschool Special", was an insult to the characterization of Willow and the fans alike. The Sixth Season is nearly flawless in my eyes, but having that shoved down our collective throats was too much. Noxon and her trite drivel...gah!

"Wrecked" is the only episode I've only watched once.

[Courtney]

Am I the only one who thinks Doublemeat Palace gets a bad rap?  I mean it's by no means a very good episode, but it's not the AIDS-cancer-dead-puppy people seem to think it is. 

[TeamRAD]

It's a meat-process.

Outside of "Once More w/ Feeling" & "Tabula Rasa", it seems like Season Six has somehow earned a bad rap, period. I happen to really love the DMP. Not only was it a fun standalone episode, it was also able to sneak in an ember of arc-exposition, too.

That and Buffy's overtly adorable in the DMP uniform.

[dignan]

Am I the only one who thinks Doublemeat Palace gets a bad rap?  I mean it's by no means a very good episode, but it's not the AIDS-cancer-dead-puppy people seem to think it is. 

I think Doublemeat Palace definitely gets a bad rap.  It would have been cooler in my opinion if the restaurant WAS actually evil, and not just some random old lady, but it's definitely not terrible.

I think Season 6 gets a bad rap because it really seemed to go out of its way to change everything about the characters that we knew.  That and the whole Willow storyline going from "Willow enjoys power and has been seduced by it" to "Magic is a drug!  Willow's a drug addict!" was a gigantic cop-out.  That and Buffy spent the whole season depressed and hating herself.  It makes for some unpleasant episodes.

[Tripe]

Tripe, did you by chance read #25 yet, and the seven-paragraph rant on the misuse of Xander in StC? It's entertaining.

Oops yeah I meant to post about it in the books thread. I want a creepy little Dawnie Doll (somebody has got to have suggested making one)