Scott Pilgrim vs. the World

[Nergol]

An Epic Of Epic Fail.

[doggans]

In the end, after you put aside the retro-chic video game, anime, and action movie references, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World is a story about the love lives of a bunch of hipster douchebags.

Couldn't you just as easily say the same thing about "Spaced"?

I was dissappointed that Simon Pegg didn't have a cameo (or did I miss it?).

Too busy shooting "Paul" at the time, I suspect.

Anyway. Haven't seen the movie yet or read the source material, but I look forward to doing both when I get a chance.

[spaceforarent]

An Epic Of Epic Fail.

I agree. Your post was pretty full of fail

[Nergol]

Couldn't you just as easily say the same thing about "Spaced"?

I don't think Tim and Daisy qualify as "hipsters" at all. Tim is a comics geek, and Daisy is, well, a goofball with literary aspirations. The closest they ever got to doing anything hipsterish was when they went to that rave with Tires, or maybe the play with Brian's, uhm... ex - and I don't think those are enough to count them as hipsters.

[PsychoGoatee]

I think it's a bit funny not wanting to watch movies with hipsters in them, and the whole hipster debate in general.

To kind of illustrate where I'm coming from, I've enjoyed several movies with neonazi skinheads, Romper Stomper, American History X, etc. Or movies with crazy mobsters, especially that Joe Pesci. And as much as we may not in reality, in the movies I can sympathize with these characters.

And yes, we can sympathize and enjoy a story about... those dreaded hipsters.

I saw Scott Pilgrim the second night in a row, still hits the spot. I love that ending!

[Pak-Man]

Well Tyrant and I celebrated our 7 year anniversary today (It's actually Monday, but it's easier to celebrate on Saturday) and I can't imagine a better movie for us to have seen together. I've never read the graphic novels (Although I will now!) but I enjoyed it immensely. The video game references, both subtle and blatant, were fun  to watch and pick out, and burried underneath all the nifty pop culture references was a nifty alegory for the battles a newly-formed couple must overcome before a relationship can start working (And the most important thing being self-respect.)  Ultimately, it was all a romantic comedy, but aimed at people who aren't going through a midlife crisis, so it was cool. :^)

[doggans]

Couldn't you just as easily say the same thing about "Spaced"?

I don't think Tim and Daisy qualify as "hipsters" at all. Tim is a comics geek, and Daisy is, well, a goofball with literary aspirations. The closest they ever got to doing anything hipsterish was when they went to that rave with Tires, or maybe the play with Brian's, uhm... ex - and I don't think those are enough to count them as hipsters.

So (and I say this with no familiarity with the character beyond what I've seen in the promotional material), Scott Pilgrim DOES qualify as a "hipster" just because he's a video game geek who plays in a band and is struggling for an income? That's more hipster-y than being a comics geek or aspiring reporter struggling for an income?

Sure, it looks like Scott starts off as a very self-absorbed person, but that's true of 90% of comedy characters. Maybe there's more hipster-y things elsewhere in the Scott Pilgrim universe, I don't know, but I'm still not quite getting that vibe. (I can see why the movie would be POPULAR with the so-called "hipster" crowd, wherever you draw that line, but I sill see "geeky musician" over "hipster".)

[ScottotD]

Couldn't you just as easily say the same thing about "Spaced"?

I don't think Tim and Daisy qualify as "hipsters" at all. Tim is a comics geek, and Daisy is, well, a goofball with literary aspirations. The closest they ever got to doing anything hipsterish was when they went to that rave with Tires, or maybe the play with Brian's, uhm... ex - and I don't think those are enough to count them as hipsters.

So (and I say this with no familiarity with the character beyond what I've seen in the promotional material), Scott Pilgrim DOES qualify as a "hipster" just because he's a video game geek who plays in a band and is struggling for an income? That's more hipster-y than being a comics geek or aspiring reporter struggling for an income?

Sure, it looks like Scott starts off as a very self-absorbed person, but that's true of 90% of comedy characters. Maybe there's more hipster-y things elsewhere in the Scott Pilgrim universe, I don't know, but I'm still not quite getting that vibe. (I can see why the movie would be POPULAR with the so-called "hipster" crowd, wherever you draw that line, but I sill see "geeky musician" over "hipster".)

Yeah, he's a slacker if he's any subculture.  Nergol's basing his opinion on the trailer from what I can tell

[doggans]

I'm just clueless as to what exactly qualifies someone as being a "hipster". I sometimes wear video game t-shirs, but I do it because I like video games. Am I a hipster? Is it something I can see a doctor about?

[warofthebees]

I think Nergol's the kind of person who goes in expecting the worst, and therefore can't enjoy what he's watching.  There really isn't any hipster-ness in the movie.  Ramona has different color hair and says "Dude", and there are twenty-somethings and one of them is gay.  There are pop culture references.  That's really as hipster as I can see the movie being.  I thought the movie had a lot more in common with Spaced than any kind of hipster subculture.

[Bob]

Is "hipster" the new "slacker"?

[ScottotD]

You mean is it a term used by old people?  No, I think it's the new 'emo' if anything.  Kind of a blanket diss people can use for anything they don't like, or don't understant... although it hasn't caught onto the mainstream yet.   However to be frank I found the definition of "Emo" much less annoying than I find "Hipsters" which to me is indier-than-thou posers.

I think Nergol's the kind of person who goes in expecting the worst, and therefore can't enjoy what he's watching. 

I thought we'd all collectively dimissed his uninformed tirade anyway, since it's based on nothing.

[Bob]

So then a hipster is a happier emo?

[ScottotD]

So then a hipster is a happier emo?

Depends I guess, I quite liked Emo kids.  What's not to love about a 14 year old in a top hat?

[Kete]

I think the best definition of a hipster is someone who shops at Urban Outfitters.  If you've never been inside one, it's like a designer Salvation Army.  Because of this, it may be hard to differentiate between someone who shops there, and someone who actually shops at the Salvation Army.  One big difference is that the Urban Outfitter shopper doesn't mind wasting money, and may not be as good at seeking out the rare gems at a second hand store.  I shopped at second hand stores all through high school, and still do 12 years later.  I do it because I have a hard time spending $60 on a pair of pants, and also because I just don't fit the latest fashion trends at Gap or wherever.