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Scott Pilgrim vs. the World

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Relaxing Dragon

I actually quite enjoyed the finale. Had a lot of the cute chibi random background bits I really liked, and excellent humor. I admit the fights seemed a little stale, but he still managed it alright. Good ending to a great series.

Of course, the movie's ending will diverge from the book, so it'll be interesting to see what path it takes.

ScottotD

Read book 6 last night, 10 days until the movie!  ;D
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Hey! It's my blog post on why I won't be going to see Scott Pilgrim vs. the World!

http://www.npccomics.com/geektragedy/?p=708

Scott Pilgrim vs. My Utter Indifference
August 3rd, 2010 by Kyle

Hell no, I won't go.

One of my favorite movie review sites is the rather bombastic, but always funny Mr. Cranky's Reviews. My favorite of his reviews was of Spice World. Let me reprint that review in its entirety:

"Three words: No fucking way".

And indeed, that is how I feel about Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, the new movie from Edgar Wright that the Geeky community seems to have its panties in a knot over. And I know that I'm supposed to be similarly panty-knotted over a comic book movie, starring Michael Cera from Arrested Development and Superbad, directed by Edgar Wright of Shaun of the Dead. But I can't work up a shred of enthusiasm for it.

And here's why: In the end, after you put aside the retro-chic video game, anime, and action movie references, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World is a story about the love lives of a bunch of hipster douchebags. And I just can't bring myself, try as I might, to care about any of that.

Maybe it's a matter of perspective. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. As anyone who lives here knows, San Francisco is absolutely overrun with hipster douchebags. You see them everywhere – with their carefully-selected "I'm too hip to care" clothes, their asinine piercings, their conspicuous and omnipresent white earbuds, and their perpetual smirks about the fact that their daddy-financed lives are just a big joke that no one but themselves is clever enough to be in on.

Forget the cancer that is killing /b/ – these idiots are the cancer that is killing San Francisco; a city that, for all its many faults, I desperately love. They want to turn the whole place into something that feels like one giant Apple Store.

So Scott Pilgrim is your typical unemployed loser amoral slacker idiot with a bunch of First World problems which seem to stem mainly from two things: 1) his unwillingness to leave a self-imposed perpetual adolescence, and 2) his pursuit of a promiscuous hipster chick who changes both bedmates and hair colors with alarming frequency. And then... stuff happens to them, I guess. All of which I couldn't care less about. Again, I see too many of these people in my daily life, and don't like them there either.

The long and the short of it is that I'm not going to pay ten dollars to see a movie about the lives of people I wouldn't talk to if they were sitting next to me on the bus. And that's not a hypothetical – they have sat next to me on the bus, and have tried to talk to me, and in response, I've turned my iPod up and pulled the cord so the bus would stop and let me out. Yes, I'd actually rather wait for the next bus in the rain than hear about people like Scott Pilgrim – so I'm damn sure not going to go spend two hours watching a movie about them.

Sorry Edgar – see you when Paul opens.

P.S Michael Cera needs to stop playing Michael Cera in all the movies he's in. I mean every role he does – Superbad, Juno, Year One, Youth In Revolt – he plays the same goddamn character: the well-meaning, slightly goofy, slightly nerdy teenageish everyman. I mean, how bad is that when even his Superbad costar Christopher Mintz-Plasse managed to do something different when he played a villain in Kick-Ass? Or when the most interesting Michael Cera role in years was actually played by Jesse Eisenberg in Zombieland? Seriously, Cera needs to do something – anything – different, and he needs to do it right now.

warofthebees

Quote from: Nergol on August 03, 2010, 09:31:42 PM
Hey! It's my blog post on why I won't be going to see Scott Pilgrim vs. the World!

http://www.npccomics.com/geektragedy/?p=708

Scott Pilgrim vs. My Utter Indifference
August 3rd, 2010 by Kyle

Hell no, I won't go.

One of my favorite movie review sites is the rather bombastic, but always funny Mr. Cranky's Reviews. My favorite of his reviews was of Spice World. Let me reprint that review in its entirety:

"Three words: No fucking way".

And indeed, that is how I feel about Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, the new movie from Edgar Wright that the Geeky community seems to have its panties in a knot over. And I know that I'm supposed to be similarly panty-knotted over a comic book movie, starring Michael Cera from Arrested Development and Superbad, directed by Edgar Wright of Shaun of the Dead. But I can't work up a shred of enthusiasm for it.

And here's why: In the end, after you put aside the retro-chic video game, anime, and action movie references, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World is a story about the love lives of a bunch of hipster douchebags. And I just can't bring myself, try as I might, to care about any of that.

Maybe it's a matter of perspective. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. As anyone who lives here knows, San Francisco is absolutely overrun with hipster douchebags. You see them everywhere – with their carefully-selected "I'm too hip to care" clothes, their asinine piercings, their conspicuous and omnipresent white earbuds, and their perpetual smirks about the fact that their daddy-financed lives are just a big joke that no one but themselves is clever enough to be in on.

Forget the cancer that is killing /b/ – these idiots are the cancer that is killing San Francisco; a city that, for all its many faults, I desperately love. They want to turn the whole place into something that feels like one giant Apple Store.

So Scott Pilgrim is your typical unemployed loser amoral slacker idiot with a bunch of First World problems which seem to stem mainly from two things: 1) his unwillingness to leave a self-imposed perpetual adolescence, and 2) his pursuit of a promiscuous hipster chick who changes both bedmates and hair colors with alarming frequency. And then... stuff happens to them, I guess. All of which I couldn't care less about. Again, I see too many of these people in my daily life, and don't like them there either.

The long and the short of it is that I'm not going to pay ten dollars to see a movie about the lives of people I wouldn't talk to if they were sitting next to me on the bus. And that's not a hypothetical – they have sat next to me on the bus, and have tried to talk to me, and in response, I've turned my iPod up and pulled the cord so the bus would stop and let me out. Yes, I'd actually rather wait for the next bus in the rain than hear about people like Scott Pilgrim – so I'm damn sure not going to go spend two hours watching a movie about them.

Sorry Edgar – see you when Paul opens.

P.S Michael Cera needs to stop playing Michael Cera in all the movies he's in. I mean every role he does – Superbad, Juno, Year One, Youth In Revolt – he plays the same goddamn character: the well-meaning, slightly goofy, slightly nerdy teenageish everyman. I mean, how bad is that when even his Superbad costar Christopher Mintz-Plasse managed to do something different when he played a villain in Kick-Ass? Or when the most interesting Michael Cera role in years was actually played by Jesse Eisenberg in Zombieland? Seriously, Cera needs to do something – anything – different, and he needs to do it right now.


That was worth my reading!  You put in every complaint I've heard so far about a movie you haven't seen yet into one convenient post!  Thanks!  I'll be sure to visit your blog daily and I bet you won't be like every other wannabe movie critic on the internet!  Michael Cera is typecast and plays the same role over and over!?  That's the first time I ever heard that!  You have such insight; you remind me of a young Leonard Maltin.

Ow.  I didn't know you could throw your back out from being sarcastic...

Seriously, I hate when people do this kind of thing.  1)Don't criticize a movie you haven't seen (movies featuring talking animals/dancing teenagers are the exception)  2)No one cares about your blog, and posting against the norm just to get hits is pretty sad.
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#139
Quote from: warofthebees on August 04, 2010, 04:04:22 AM
Quote from: Nergol on August 03, 2010, 09:31:42 PM
Hey! It's my blog post on why I won't be going to see Scott Pilgrim vs. the World!

http://www.npccomics.com/geektragedy/?p=708

Scott Pilgrim vs. My Utter Indifference
August 3rd, 2010 by Kyle

Hell no, I won't go.

One of my favorite movie review sites is the rather bombastic, but always funny Mr. Cranky's Reviews. My favorite of his reviews was of Spice World. Let me reprint that review in its entirety:

"Three words: No fucking way".

And indeed, that is how I feel about Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, the new movie from Edgar Wright that the Geeky community seems to have its panties in a knot over. And I know that I'm supposed to be similarly panty-knotted over a comic book movie, starring Michael Cera from Arrested Development and Superbad, directed by Edgar Wright of Shaun of the Dead. But I can't work up a shred of enthusiasm for it.

And here's why: In the end, after you put aside the retro-chic video game, anime, and action movie references, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World is a story about the love lives of a bunch of hipster douchebags. And I just can't bring myself, try as I might, to care about any of that.

Maybe it's a matter of perspective. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. As anyone who lives here knows, San Francisco is absolutely overrun with hipster douchebags. You see them everywhere – with their carefully-selected "I'm too hip to care" clothes, their asinine piercings, their conspicuous and omnipresent white earbuds, and their perpetual smirks about the fact that their daddy-financed lives are just a big joke that no one but themselves is clever enough to be in on.

Forget the cancer that is killing /b/ – these idiots are the cancer that is killing San Francisco; a city that, for all its many faults, I desperately love. They want to turn the whole place into something that feels like one giant Apple Store.

So Scott Pilgrim is your typical unemployed loser amoral slacker idiot with a bunch of First World problems which seem to stem mainly from two things: 1) his unwillingness to leave a self-imposed perpetual adolescence, and 2) his pursuit of a promiscuous hipster chick who changes both bedmates and hair colors with alarming frequency. And then... stuff happens to them, I guess. All of which I couldn't care less about. Again, I see too many of these people in my daily life, and don't like them there either.

The long and the short of it is that I'm not going to pay ten dollars to see a movie about the lives of people I wouldn't talk to if they were sitting next to me on the bus. And that's not a hypothetical – they have sat next to me on the bus, and have tried to talk to me, and in response, I've turned my iPod up and pulled the cord so the bus would stop and let me out. Yes, I'd actually rather wait for the next bus in the rain than hear about people like Scott Pilgrim – so I'm damn sure not going to go spend two hours watching a movie about them.

Sorry Edgar – see you when Paul opens.

P.S Michael Cera needs to stop playing Michael Cera in all the movies he's in. I mean every role he does – Superbad, Juno, Year One, Youth In Revolt – he plays the same goddamn character: the well-meaning, slightly goofy, slightly nerdy teenageish everyman. I mean, how bad is that when even his Superbad costar Christopher Mintz-Plasse managed to do something different when he played a villain in Kick-Ass? Or when the most interesting Michael Cera role in years was actually played by Jesse Eisenberg in Zombieland? Seriously, Cera needs to do something – anything – different, and he needs to do it right now.




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#140
Quoteposting against the norm just to get hits is pretty sad.

Ah. The old "No one could possibly actually disagree with the substance of my opinion; therefore anyone who says they do must be a troll" argument. Nice.

Quote1)Don't criticize a movie you haven't seen

Actually, I haven't. This is a subtle point, and one you don't seem to grasp, but it's like this: I'm not criticizing the execution of Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, I'm criticizing the concept of it. I didn't and couldn't criticize the execution of it (i.e., the movie itself), because I haven't seen it and for all I know, it could, in terms of filmmaking, be the next Lawrence Of Arabia. What I'm doing is explaining why, even if it is, I'm still not going to go see it.

It's a principle quite similar to why I won't pay money to see the likes of An Inconvenient Truth, An American Carol, or any Michael More film: because I refuse to pay money for the privilege of watching a political commercial. They may all be wonderfully-made as films, and I might even agree with their message, but it's not the movie itself I object to, it's the concept behind the movie.

Similarly, I'm not going to go see a movie about the love lives of hipster d-bags. I wouldn't care if it was directed by Scorsese, starred a young Brando, and was adapted from a lost James Joyce novel - I'm still not going to go see it on general principle.

Kete

Quote from: Nergol on August 03, 2010, 09:31:42 PM
Maybe it's a matter of perspective. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. As anyone who lives here knows, San Francisco is absolutely overrun with hipster douchebags. You see them everywhere – with their carefully-selected "I'm too hip to care" clothes, their asinine piercings, their conspicuous and omnipresent white earbuds, and their perpetual smirks about the fact that their daddy-financed lives are just a big joke that no one but themselves is clever enough to be in on.

I don't know if you've read the comic, but I don't think any of this describes the characters in Scott Pilgrim...especially your comment about "daddy-financed lives".  In the comic, the characters are either working hard at low paying jobs, or have zero money (like Scott).  You've made some pretty broad generalizations about a group of people, that I don't think is fair.  You might as well say that you won't watch Inception because everyone that wears a suit is an investment banker dickhead, or you won't watch A-Team because everyone with a mohawk is a punk rock wannabe.  I'm sorry, but I think your attitude of superiority is exactly what you're criticizing about hipsters.

Action Batch

Quote from: Kete on August 04, 2010, 08:11:58 AM
I'm sorry, but I think your attitude of superiority is exactly what you're criticizing about hipsters.

Nail on the head.

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Quote from: Kete on August 04, 2010, 08:11:58 AM
Quote from: Nergol on August 03, 2010, 09:31:42 PM
Maybe it's a matter of perspective. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. As anyone who lives here knows, San Francisco is absolutely overrun with hipster douchebags. You see them everywhere – with their carefully-selected "I'm too hip to care" clothes, their asinine piercings, their conspicuous and omnipresent white earbuds, and their perpetual smirks about the fact that their daddy-financed lives are just a big joke that no one but themselves is clever enough to be in on.

I don't know if you've read the comic, but I don't think any of this describes the characters in Scott Pilgrim...especially your comment about "daddy-financed lives".  In the comic, the characters are either working hard at low paying jobs, or have zero money (like Scott).  You've made some pretty broad generalizations about a group of people, that I don't think is fair.  You might as well say that you won't watch Inception because everyone that wears a suit is an investment banker dickhead, or you won't watch A-Team because everyone with a mohawk is a punk rock wannabe.  I'm sorry, but I think your attitude of superiority is exactly what you're criticizing about hipsters.

i've only read the first book, but i agree with this...scott is borke...

warofthebees

QuoteAh. The old "No one could possibly actually disagree with the substance of my opinion; therefore anyone who says they do must be a troll" argument. Nice.
I didn't say you were a troll.  What I did was point out that you are posting in this thread about how much you hate hipsters in an attempt to pimp your blog out to us.

QuoteActually, I haven't. This is a subtle point, and one you don't seem to grasp, but it's like this: I'm not criticizing the execution of Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, I'm criticizing the concept of it. I didn't and couldn't criticize the execution of it (i.e., the movie itself), because I haven't seen it and for all I know, it could, in terms of filmmaking, be the next Lawrence Of Arabia. What I'm doing is explaining why, even if it is, I'm still not going to go see it.

It's a principle quite similar to why I won't pay money to see the likes of An Inconvenient Truth, An American Carol, or any Michael More film: because I refuse to pay money for the privilege of watching a political commercial. They may all be wonderfully-made as films, and I might even agree with their message, but it's not the movie itself I object to, it's the concept behind the movie.

Similarly, I'm not going to go see a movie about the love lives of hipster d-bags. I wouldn't care if it was directed by Scorsese, starred a young Brando, and was adapted from a lost James Joyce novel - I'm still not going to go see it on general principle.

So, by your logic, not liking a concept of a movie means I shouldn't see it?  One of my favorite movies is Amadeus.  I hate the Regency Era and I can't stand classical music.  I was nearly dragged to go see it, and I loved it.  Same with Inception, I thought the concept sounded stupid.  Bad Lieutenant, Winter's Bone, The Fantastic Mr. Fox.  All movies that I did not like the concept of, but I gave a chance.  But that's besides the point.  I read the Scott Pilgrim books after seeing the first preview.  Nowhere is there discussion of bands no one has heard of "lol irony" Noam Chomsky, Chuck Palahniuk, or any other of the hipster favorites.  Outside of how the characters dress, there isn't much to support the hipster thing. 

I'm probably showing how big of a nerd I am right now, but hey, I'm arguing on the internet, so why not go all the way?


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Am I the only one confused by the fact that a generally laid-back and comedy-comes-first comic being made into a laid-back and comedy-comes-first movie is causing so much tension and grief?

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Quote from: Relaxing Dragon on August 04, 2010, 03:18:05 PM
Am I the only one confused by the fact that a generally laid-back and comedy-comes-first comic being made into a laid-back and comedy-comes-first movie is causing so much tension and grief?

i feel no tension or grief, though i am amused

MrTorso

There is a screening going on tonight in Boston and Edgar Wright and the some of the cast are appearing. I had passes but I didn't feel like braving the crowd. They took pictures at our HQ:


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Quote from: MrTorso on August 04, 2010, 06:43:24 PM
There is a screening going on tonight in Boston and Edgar Wright and the some of the cast are appearing. I had passes but I didn't feel like braving the crowd. They took pictures at our HQ:


...wow.
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Quote from: ScottH on August 05, 2010, 03:34:40 AM
...wow.

What wow? When the studios give out passes for things like this they give out twice as many or more than the capacity of the theater to ensure that it is full. The show was at 7 and more than likely people started to line up at 3 or 4 if not earlier.  I want to see the movie but I would rather spend the money when the movie opens than waste 5 or 6 hours of my day off standing in a line.
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