I would easily pay $1.99-$2.99 for a regular mp3 of this one if the video was downloadable from archive.org.
Just putting that out there.....
I'm with you. I'm all for free Divx but, not that excited about it otherwise.
On the other hand, I also don't mind missing the "riff." It's nice to have it available at all I suppose, for those who want to consume mass quantities of Divx goodness.
Quote from: MrTorso on December 20, 2007, 06:50:43 PM
I would easily pay $1.99-$2.99 for a regular mp3 of this one if the video was downloadable from archive.org.
Just putting that out there.....
It's a good idea, people seem to be demanding it, so we'll see. It might be good to have a version for the people who aren't savvy enough to find where to get the video - if we could've done it for the SWHS, obviously we would've.
Doubt it'll be 1.99 though.
Quote from: torgosPizza on December 20, 2007, 06:55:47 PM
Quote from: MrTorso on December 20, 2007, 06:50:43 PM
I would easily pay $1.99-$2.99 for a regular mp3 of this one if the video was downloadable from archive.org.
Just putting that out there.....
It's a good idea, people seem to be demanding it, so we'll see. It might be good to have a version for the people who aren't savvy enough to find where to get the video - if we could've done it for the SWHS, obviously we would've.
No doubt it is a good idea to put out video pre-synced when you are able, especially if you are dealing with PD materials.
QuoteDoubt it'll be 1.99 though.
Too low? Too high?
Sign me up for the mp3 too. I'd rather make my own and these shorts are pretty easy to find.
Quote from: Jonny Jit on December 20, 2007, 09:41:39 PM
Sign me up for the mp3 too. I'd rather make my own and these shorts are pretty easy to find.
Me too!
I'd also pay extra for the mp3, or an unencumbered video file, so that I could put it on my iPod or a DVD. The DivX file is much less useful to me, enough so that I might pass on it.
I agree! I'd much rather sync it myself if it means I can burn a DVD, and there's an inexhaustible supply of downloadable shorts over at archive.org.
I support pre-synched videos, even if that means making myself an outcast.
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I'm going to agree with these guys. This thing with DivX isn't heading down the right path for me personally...
-Rude
Quote from: GregMcduck on December 20, 2007, 10:18:23 PM
I support pre-synched videos, even if that means making myself an outcast.
Which would be cool if they were to offer both. Make everyone happy.
I concur with the crowd on this one, I'd much rather have the mp3 and sync the video myself, rather than have a copy-protected Divx file.
For short stuff like this, and also the low quality of the source, I don't mind the Divx thing, this is exactly the kind of thing that could be plastered all over youtube in no time so it does protect Rifftrax.
For longer stuff, I hope it doesn't become the norm, if it were legal and they did the star wars special this way I would not have seen it, it would have been way too large of a download for my DSL connection.
If RiffTrax were to sell disks with collections of divx files burned onto them for a nominal fee (a few dollars plus shipping), then people could buy the .tix files to unlock the video files they want to watch, that might be an interesting way to do this divix thing for those of us not interested in VOD. Although I wouldn't want that to become the norm either, since who knows how long divx will exist and it limits your viewing options.
Release flip-books with 8-Tracks for all I care. Just keep it coming. :^)
I like it as it is, nothing has made me happier since I started getting on demand riffs this week. It has also made me spend a lot more money here as previously I had been too lazy to go out and buy a DVD of a lousy movie and then struggle to synch it up with the riff.
You wanted it, you got it.
Quote from: torgosPizza on December 21, 2007, 10:51:11 AM
You wanted it, you got it.
Sweet. I hope Dis is trying to sync with those mumble mouth kids....
Nope, no sync lines. You're on your own.
I'm in for the separate MP3 too.
Not to toot my own horn, but to be a bit anal...I thought the volume level of the riffers was too loud. When I make mine, I will lower the volume level on the riffers so its closer to the movie volume. That way it doesn't sound like the riffers are blasting you.
BTW, Torso do you have a download link to this video yet?
Quote from: gammer on December 21, 2007, 11:35:35 AM
Not to toot my own horn, but to be a bit anal...I thought the volume level of the riffers was too loud. When I make mine, I will lower the volume level on the riffers so its closer to the movie volume. That way it doesn't sound like the riffers are blasting you.
Since I've been reauthoring, I've noticed that the guys are a lot louder than the actual movie. No big deal though, just agreeing with you. :)
Here's (http://www.archive.org/details/VisittoS1963) the download page for the short. For a DVD we'll want the MPEG2 version.
Quote from: JoshWay on December 21, 2007, 11:42:41 AM
Here's (http://www.archive.org/details/VisittoS1963) the download page for the short. For a DVD we'll want the MPEG2 version.
Got it thanks.
Yeah the MPEG2 for sure...I was hunting for the biggest version.
Edit: Seeing since Signal 30 is available from archive.org, I wonder if we could have a separate MP3 for it too?
Yay.
They only problem with the archive.org mpeg2s is that they are not the right DVD size. So some work needs to be done with them for re-authoring.
Quote from: MrTorso on December 21, 2007, 02:03:56 PM
They only problem with the archive.org mpeg2s is that they are not the right DVD size. So some work needs to be done with them for re-authoring.
Yes, I just noticed that now.
I'm going to play with it in TMPGEnc tonight to try and get it to work.
Quote from: torgosPizza on December 21, 2007, 10:51:11 AM
You wanted it, you got it.
Also, you watched it! You can't un-watch it!
Very cool to just include it with the DivX purchase!!
Thanks Torgo!
Quote from: MrTorso on December 21, 2007, 02:03:56 PM
They only problem with the archive.org mpeg2s is that they are not the right DVD size. So some work needs to be done with them for re-authoring.
Not the right size? What do you mean? DVDFlick seems to have no problem with it.
Edit: NEVERMIND. the video was hideously distorted when I re-authored it. Any suggestions?
Hmm. When I used the archive.org file for my Fun With Shorts DVD, I didn't have any trouble with the size. Although, come to think of it, DVD Architect did need to re-compress the video even though it was already mpeg2. In my experience, all the archive.org mpeg2s are not all DVD-ready.
Quote from: JoshWay on December 21, 2007, 03:54:02 PM
Hmm. When I used the archive.org file for my Fun With Shorts DVD, I didn't have any trouble with the size. Although, come to think of it, DVD Architect did need to re-compress the video even though it was already mpeg2. In my experience, all the archive.org mpeg2s are not all DVD-ready.
Most of them have a size of 368x480 when I think the proper size should be 720x480. A guy on the archive forums has had good luck and results using virtual dub to resize. Here is what he said:
QuoteIn case anyone cares...here's the best result I've found for resizing, use Virtualdub, and be sure to select "precise bilinear" as the method, it seems to minimize the "blocky" look.
No, don't resize it to 720x480. Going from 368x480 to 720x480 is not recommended.
Use an encoder like TMPGEnc and resize it to 352x480...that is a valid DVD resolution.
I can post screen shots on how to do this if anyone is interested.
Also, vDub is mainly for AVI encoding...its not designed or best used for MPEG encoding.
Ok, here's what to do to get the video from 368x480 to a valid DVD resolution without causing additional distortion or pixelation:
You can dowload TMPGEnc here (http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tp.html) (they have a trial version)
open TMPGEnc and click File, Project Wizard.
Then chose DVD NTSC on the left and VBR Linear PCM Audio on the right (as seen below).
This will give us our MPEG2 compliant video and a separate WAV audio that we can drop into GoldWave or Audacity for our audio mixing.
Then click Next
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Now browse to the VisittoS1963.mpeg file you downloaded and open it.
Next
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Click the Other Settings button on the bottom right.
Now click the Setting button next to 2-pass VBR. I set mine to average 4200, max 8000, and min 300.
And I prefer to use a Motion Search precision of High Quality (Slow)
Click OK and Next
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Now change the Video Resolution to 352x480.
Why? you ask...The source video is only 368x480. We want to match that as close as possible with a valid DVD resolution. It just so happens that 352x480 is the closest. 704x480 or 720x480 would be too big and cause more added distortion and fuzzyness.
Next
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Chose a destination to save your M2V and WAV file to and click OK. If you used the same settings as I did, the encoding will probably take less then an hour.
When the encoding is complete, you can now take the WAV file and use it in GoldWave or Audacity for your audio mixing (http://www3.sympatico.ca/inch77/guide.htm). When the audio mixing is complete, you need to encode the final WAV file to AC3 format or MP2 format.
Multiplex or Mux it back with the M2V file (TMPGEnc can do this too) and author it with your favorite DVD creation program.
I ran mine through Nero Vision 4, using automatic settings and it looks normal on the TV.
Quote from: gammer on December 21, 2007, 11:35:35 AM
Not to toot my own horn, but to be a bit anal...I thought the volume level of the riffers was too loud. When I make mine, I will lower the volume level on the riffers so its closer to the movie volume. That way it doesn't sound like the riffers are blasting you.
When I converted the mp3 to a .wav (so that I could mix the rifftrax with the mpg file I d/l from archive.org) I had to increase the volume 4 times so that the movie soundtrack did not overwhelm the rifftrax.
Thanks gammer!
Yeah, good work, and thanks Gammer! You are the Highlander!
Gammer: When I try to open the mpeg I downloaded from archive.org and already burned to dvd once, the TMPGEnc program gives me a error, saying "Can not open, or unsupported". Any suggestions?
Quote from: jetjaguar15 on December 22, 2007, 04:33:33 AM
Gammer: When I try to open the mpeg I downloaded from archive.org and already burned to dvd once, the TMPGEnc program gives me a error, saying "Can not open, or unsupported". Any suggestions?
You might not have a MPEG2 codec installed...or at least one that will work with TMPGEnc.
Try installing this one: http://www.rifftraxfan.com/other/mpeg2codecinstaller.zip
-unzip it
-Run the SetUp.exe
-Go to Start, All Programs, Free DVD Codec Installer...
-Click on Free DVD Codec Installer Version 1.0
-When the window pops up click the Install button
-This should install two codecs successfully and then allow you to open MPEG2 files in TMPGEnc
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I just wanted to say thanx again to the guys at Rifftrax for giving us the MP3 for this release.
Originally i had copied the DivX file to DVD, but out of the three DVD players in my house... not one would play it. The last thing that i wanted to do was invite everyone at our Christmas party into my bedroom to huddle around the computer screen for 15 minutes. But the reauthor went amazingly well once i converted the public domain video to an ISO. And it was almost easy compared to the Holiday Special.
Anyway, thanx for listening to the customers... even if we're shrill and annoying sometimes. I hope you can release the commentary MP3 tracks with any future DivX releases that you have planned. It helps to takes the sting out the whole DivX experiment while you guys work out the bugs.
-Rude