I just got the movie the other day in preparation for the rifftrax. I forgot how violent it was... even for a movie from 1987 it's pretty gory. I look forward to hearing Mike riffing the film ;D
I love Predator and I'm absolutely giddy about them riffing it. It's classic Rifftrax material; it's got an alien, two body builder-turned governors, gratuitous explosions and killings.. it's just a badass movie, and perfect for riffing.
Quote from: RobtheBarbarian on May 28, 2007, 04:58:14 PM
I love Predator and I'm absolutely giddy about them riffing it. It's classic Rifftrax material; it's got an alien, two body builder-turned governors, gratuitous explosions and killings.. it's just a badass movie, and perfect for riffing.
Plus a whole lotta Ah-Nuldisms!
Quote from: Hazzah on May 28, 2007, 05:54:22 PM
Plus a whole lotta Ah-Nuldisms!
Yes indeed, very few people know this, but he pioneered the use of the following action movie catchphrases:
"Stick around!"
"Knock, knock!"
"You're one ugly motherfucker!"
"You set us up!!"
"You fall behind, you're on your own."
Oh plus:
"I aint got time to bleed.
I bet that'll be a running gag of some sort.
and of course
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
"What's the matter, Dylan? CIA got you pushing too many pencils?"
and
"We are a rescue team... not assassins."
Quote from: RobtheBarbarian on May 28, 2007, 08:38:58 PM
"What's the matter, Dylan? CIA got you pushing too many pencils?"
I like that one. It is so typical you would definitely hear it in any run of the mill Seagall, Van Damn, Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Vin Diesel, or Jackie Chan action flick.
i'm hoping Mike makes a bunch of obscure gubinatorial jokes......
Quote from: Ortega on May 28, 2007, 08:44:04 PM
i'm hoping Mike makes a bunch of obscure gubinatorial jokes......
Shyeah! Exactly! Wait... huh??!
Quote from: Principal_Skin-trade on May 28, 2007, 08:41:59 PM
Quote from: RobtheBarbarian on May 28, 2007, 08:38:58 PM
"What's the matter, Dylan? CIA got you pushing too many pencils?"
I like that one. It is so typical you would definitely hear it in any run of the mill Seagall, Van Damn, Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Vin Diesel, or Jackie Chan action flick.
Hehe. I used to know a guy who was a big fan of Predator, and one time we greeted each other by reenacting that scene, complete with flexing biceps and staredown.
WOO HOO!
This was the first thing I saw after coming back from Celebration IV this evening.
What a lovely present to come home to!!
Predator is a great movie.... that should make a great rifftrax.
It's a shame it's only Mike. It should still be good, I mean, how can it not be? It's Ahnald.
I still enjoy the ones with just Mike in them - the man is very good at what he does.
But the back and forth exchanges are what really made MST3K and Rifftrax great for me - without the banter and random off-topic diatribes, I feel that you really lose some of the heart of the comedy.
I still think it's a weak choice when there's SO many Arnold movies that aren't as much fun but MUCH more riff-able.
Quote from: Principal_Skin-trade on May 28, 2007, 04:55:03 PM
I just got the movie the other day in preparation for the rifftrax. I forgot how violent it was... even for a movie from 1987 it's pretty gory.
seriously?
Quote from: ossuary on May 28, 2007, 11:03:36 PM
I still enjoy the ones with just Mike in them - the man is very good at what he does.
But the back and forth exchanges are what really made MST3K and Rifftrax great for me - without the banter and random off-topic diatribes, I feel that you really lose some of the heart of the comedy.
I think it depends on the situation... with Rifftrax, mainly with the Mike & Kevin efforts, they sometimes seem to be forcing the issue. With MST3K they had the host segments to take a reach and setup a joke. It sorta takes me out of the groove a lot of times when they disconnect from the movie to go back and forth for a minute or whatever. I don't think those situations were as prevelant in MST for the most part. I still think these parts are usually at least amusing, but something is lost when you have to concentrate on the riffers instead of the movie being riffed.
I know what you mean. Their disjointed rants can be pretty funny (especially the Horse of July bit), but I think it kind of misses the point.
Quote from: Nunyerbiz on May 29, 2007, 07:32:21 AM
I think it depends on the situation... with Rifftrax, mainly with the Mike & Kevin efforts, they sometimes seem to be forcing the issue. With MST3K they had the host segments to take a reach and setup a joke. It sorta takes me out of the groove a lot of times when they disconnect from the movie to go back and forth for a minute or whatever. I don't think those situations were as prevelant in MST for the most part. I still think these parts are usually at least amusing, but something is lost when you have to concentrate on the riffers instead of the movie being riffed.
I know what you're saying here, and at times I find that to be true. But usually (especially with the Rifftrax), it seems to me that they intentially use the off-topic distractions at the times when you need them the most - i.e. when the movie is particularly hard to watch. The riffing conversations help ease you through the parts of the movie that you don't need to be watching and are being caused physical pain by anyway.
As you say, it was less of an issue with MST3K - I think I remember reading in an article once that Mike said with MST3K they tried not to overcut the dialogue of the movies too much, because at that time the networks carrying the shows expected the material itself to be watchable. Did Comedy Central / Sci-Fi actually believe people were watching MST3K to see the movies? I dunno...
With Rifftrax, that stipulation is no longer required, so they can do what they feel is best for comedic and watchability purposes.
You're right, but there also this to think about. Mike said in an interview that with MST they could chop out parts of the movie where there was little going on, or nothing good to riff. With Rifftrax, they have no choice, they have to riff 100% of the movie, so the "off-topic rants" (and the like) are probably a neccessity during sections of the movie where there is little material to work with, basically padding out the track.
Don't get me wrong... I realize that the little off-the-cuff banter is going to happen and it does serve a purpose.... It's just that I usually don't find it terribly funny. Of course, there are exceptions and even when they aren't "terribly funny" the guys are still at least amusing... Still, most of those 'set pieces' strike me as forced... and that's a feeling I rarely, if ever, get with the "in the moment" riffs.
I guess my perspective is that, for the most part, I don't need the guys to go out of their way to make a joke. I don't mind letting the movies breath a bit if there isn't anything funny to be said at a particular moment.
Forget about the movie for a second, are there any songs in the closing credits for Dis to sing along with?
Well, the director's cut features "The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia" by Vicki Lawrence over the end credits... which when you think about it, doesn't make any sense at all. Everybody knows Predator took place in Kentucky.
There is that scene where they're all listening to Long Tall Sally in the Huey...
Oh baby, gonna have me some fun
I like Predator. It's a fun, over the top (not in the double elimination sense) action movie with a cool hook. Which of course makes it great for riffing as well. In general I prefer team efforts, but I'm sure this one is going to be a lot of fun.
Speaking of... when are we going to see a preview clip of the rifftrax? ;D
I still think Commando will be the perfect convergence of Arnold's goofy one-liner wheelhouse and ideal riffibility... but I think Predator will work just fine. I'm happy that they are keeping a good mix of solo and team efforts, as I think both setups have their respective strengths.
Quote from: Nunyerbiz on May 30, 2007, 08:00:33 AM
I still think Commando will be the perfect convergence of Arnold's goofy one-liner wheelhouse and ideal riffibility... but I think Predator will work just fine. I'm happy that they are keeping a good mix of solo and team efforts, as I think both setups have their respective strengths.
I am sure they will get to Commando at some time.......
Quote from: PSLOwner on May 30, 2007, 09:11:47 AM
Quote from: Nunyerbiz on May 30, 2007, 08:00:33 AM
I still think Commando will be the perfect convergence of Arnold's goofy one-liner wheelhouse and ideal riffibility... but I think Predator will work just fine. I'm happy that they are keeping a good mix of solo and team efforts, as I think both setups have their respective strengths.
I am sure they will get to Commando at some time.......
Considering that Commando has a rediculous quotient a good 10 times worse than even a movie about an intergalactic sport hunter, that's a definite YES.
RUNNNNNN! GO! GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!
Quote from: dignan on May 30, 2007, 02:24:36 PM
RUNNNNNN! GO! GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!
That's the best cyberimpression I've ever heard/seen
COM AHN! I WITE HE-UH! KEEL ME! I WITE HE-UH!
Quote from: Hazzah on May 30, 2007, 05:47:08 PM
COM AHN! I WITE HE-UH! KEEL ME! I WITE HE-UH!
He actually said this in a speech a couple of weeks ago. I think he was trying to make a point about environmental issues, or something. ;D
well I certainly hope he got thru to you Californians!!
Ah yes, Conan Arnold, king governor of Aquilonia California. Hither come Arnold, to tread the sequined thrones of the world beneath his booted feet.
(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arnoldfan.com%2Fpictur16.jpg&hash=7d550c31882526b498ddf991017d07dc565ad051)
He needs to be more aggressive. Show all those soy bean-eating, fuschia-wearing, tree-hugging freaks!
So they lack discipline?
Quote from: Hazzah on May 30, 2007, 08:18:17 PM
So they lack discipline?
No no no! They Racka disciprine!
Actually I was discussing this with someone else while we were watching it, Arnold does not have much of an accent during this film.
Really, when you're reduced to making fun of the guy's accent you're scraping the bottom of the barrel.
c'mon, we're not laughing at him, we're laughing with him. He knows what he sounds like.
Which is my point, it's part of his schtick, his thing, so I am certain he plays it up for effect.
Quote from: ScottH on May 31, 2007, 06:27:12 AM
Really, when you're reduced to making fun of the guy's accent you're scraping the bottom of the barrel.
It's actually about 3/4 of the way down the barrel, stuck to the sides.
Also, there's this, which cracks me up:
http://mm3choppa.ytmnd.com/
Quote from: Principal_Skin-trade on May 31, 2007, 12:59:11 AM
Quote from: Hazzah on May 30, 2007, 08:18:17 PM
So they lack discipline?
No no no! They Racka disciprine!
That's more of a stereotypical chinese accent. You eat mo vegtaboo!
Actually, I believe Mr. Trade was quoting South Park. :^)
Quote from: Pak-Man on May 31, 2007, 11:29:35 AM
Actually, I believe Mr. Trade was quoting South Park. :^)
VERY GOOD!!! You are sharp Mister Pak-man!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Smilin' Jack Ross on May 31, 2007, 06:31:09 AM
c'mon, we're not laughing at him, we're laughing with him. He knows what he sounds like.
http://eeuauaughhhuauaahh.ytmnd.com/ (http://eeuauaughhhuauaahh.ytmnd.com/)
Quote from: Nunyerbiz on June 01, 2007, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: Smilin' Jack Ross on May 31, 2007, 06:31:09 AM
c'mon, we're not laughing at him, we're laughing with him. He knows what he sounds like.
http://eeuauaughhhuauaahh.ytmnd.com/ (http://eeuauaughhhuauaahh.ytmnd.com/)
im almost passing out that was so funny!!
Eh it's just some audio from that MAD TV skit.
So when are they doing Conan the Barbarian??
Isn't that the one with Grace Jones?
That's Conan the Destroyer.
Predator RT is my least favorite of the pack to date. This project should have been shelved. :(