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Question: Nononowaitwaitwaitrankrankrank
Option 1: 10 votes: 4
Option 2: 9 votes: 14
Option 3: 8 votes: 6
Option 4: 7 votes: 1
Option 5: 6 votes: 1
Option 6: 5 votes: 1
Option 7: 4 votes: 0
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Title: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: stansimpson on November 29, 2011, 06:10:04 PM
I have to put this at 7.5. Much like the film itself, I started really enjoying the last 45mins-1hr. Seven seems too low for how much I enjoyed it, but it doesn't deserve an 8 due to a LOT of "This film is so bad" (How bad is it?) stuff. I know it's gotta be extremely hard to write ~7hrs of Transformer riffs, but I did find almost too much repetition in that. To their credit, they started cutting each other off cuz it was getting pretty gross. Haha. Even with that criticism, I have to point out that there were a bunch of really great, funny lines (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=23169.msg679372#msg679372) (I only wish I could remember more).
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Watchman on November 30, 2011, 06:26:30 PM
What's taking the opinions so long? I'm not sure about buying this one & was hoping to read some more feedback.

Though yours is always valuable, Stan. So are you saying the Rifftrax improves once the extended Chicago-demolition-derby starts?

I found the first Transformers Rifftrax surprisingly enjoyable; hell I even tolerated the movie itself more than I expected. I couldn't stand the 2nd one at all. I think that's because the first one had enough breathing room throughout the first 2/3 for the riffers to joke at ease. The 2nd movie turned all worst elements up to 11... it was like trying to insert lyrics over a drum machine set at 1 million bpm.

*Sigh* Okay, just tell me, are they any Fargo jokes? My main curiosity about Trans3 is the career-degrading appearances of Frances McDormand & Leonard Nimoy, particularly the former.

[I'm getting even more frustrated because I can't simply abbreviate using "T1, T2, T3". The Terminator series has already claimed T-status, and rightfully so, I don't want to sully it. We need a new abbreviation for the Transformers series. How about  :gouge: 3?]
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Darth Geek on November 30, 2011, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: Sutter Cane on November 30, 2011, 06:26:30 PM
[I'm getting even more frustrated because I can't simply abbreviate using "T1, T2, T3". The Terminator series has already claimed T-status, and rightfully so, I don't want to sully it. We need a new abbreviation for the Transformers series. How about  :gouge: 3?]
Bayformers 1, Bayformers 2, Bayformers 3 (although admittedly that isn't much of an "abbreviation")

Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: stansimpson on November 30, 2011, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: Sutter Cane on November 30, 2011, 06:26:30 PM
So are you saying the Rifftrax improves once the extended Chicago-demolition-derby starts?

Actually, probably even before that. That may tie into how I feel about the movie itself. The only thing I liked in the movie was Chicago being blow'd up real good. But, for me anyway, I started laughing consistently even before that. And FWIW, I didn't care for the first Transformer movie that much (the movie or the RT), and I don't plan on watching the 2nd with or without the RT any time soon.

Quote*Sigh* Okay, just tell me, are they any Fargo jokes?
If there are, it wasn't blatant enough for me to catch it. They do call attention to why she isn't doing better work tho. Nimoy gets a decent amount, but moreso for his voice being all old-man-slurry. For example:


Quote
[I'm getting even more frustrated because I can't simply abbreviate using "T1, T2, T3". The Terminator series has already claimed T-status, and rightfully so, I don't want to sully it. We need a new abbreviation for the Transformers series. How about  :gouge: 3?]
How about Tranny 1, Tranny 2, and Tranny 3?  Oh wait...    :-\
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Watchman on November 30, 2011, 07:10:13 PM
Quote from: stansimpson on November 30, 2011, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: Sutter Cane on November 30, 2011, 06:26:30 PM
So are you saying the Rifftrax improves once the extended Chicago-demolition-derby starts?

Actually, probably even before that. That may tie into how I feel about the movie itself. The only thing I liked in the movie was Chicago being blow'd up real good. But, for me anyway, I started laughing consistently even before that. And FWIW, I didn't care for the first Transformer movie that much (the movie or the RT), and I don't plan on watching the 2nd with or without the RT any time soon.

Quote*Sigh* Okay, just tell me, are they any Fargo jokes?
If there are, it wasn't blatant enough for me to catch it. They do call attention to why she isn't doing better work tho. Nimoy gets a decent amount, but moreso for his voice being all old-man-slurry. For example:

Okay, I've decided to take the plunge, thanks! Yes, Rifftrax, you got my $4 because Stan vouched for you acknowledging Frances McDormand. At least I'm guaranteed one smile!
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: CJones on November 30, 2011, 07:42:17 PM
Quote from: Sutter Cane on November 30, 2011, 06:26:30 PM
What's taking the opinions so long? I'm not sure about buying this one & was hoping to read some more feedback.

In case you didn't know, it's a long ass movie, and the riff has only been out since yesterday. I'm currently on my second watch-through right now. Just paused to check the forum.

Based on my first viewing, I can corroborate at least one of stansimpsons comments, and that's that there's a lot of repetition (and not just in "this movie sucks" type jokes). This comes in two forms: Running jokes (within the riff) and Reused jokes (from previous riffs). I like to see the former, as I feel it gives a riff a sense on continuity. I don't like to see the later as it just feels like they couldn't think of anything else. The running jokes run throughout the riff, but the reused jokes are fairly sparse until near the end where they start to pile up. I get the impression that where just running out of steam, and ideas, towards the end. And you can hardly blame them, consider how ridiculously long the end sequence is.

Because of this, I had the opposite feeling of stansimpson.  I felt the pre-Chicago stuff was better than the overly long Chicago battle sequence. Having said that, I agree with him that there a quite a few really good bits throughput the whole riff. I think it was worth paying the $4.

I'll give an actual rating sometime after I'm done watching it at least twice.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: CJones on November 30, 2011, 07:44:55 PM
I didn't even realize that was the same woman as in Fargo.

Also, regarding my last post, keep in mind the two prior to it weren't there while I was typing it.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: stansimpson on November 30, 2011, 08:09:08 PM
Can't say I'm surprised, CJones. I liked the latter half of the Inception riff waaay more than the first half. And then I find out everyone else felt the other way around. Oh, and I'm an absolute sucker for re-used jokes (i.e. jokes referencing previous riffed titles).  ;D  But I'm guessing you meant riffs heard from other titles? 

Also, I just remembered there's a lot of "That's what ___ said when ___." Those can be really great jokes. Most often, I hafta think about 'em for a second till I get 'em. But that structure felt very piled-on this go-around.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Watchman on November 30, 2011, 11:30:19 PM
Chernobyl Sex Dungeon
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Prince of Space 5049 on December 02, 2011, 06:30:04 AM
I absolutely LOVED this one.  I gave it a 9.  I thought most of the riffs were well written and thought out.  Not just the constant toss off lines.  Maybe it's because the way I feel about the film and the actors in it are perfectly mirrored by MK&B.  It was a fun ride all the way through for me.  Great work guys! :clap:
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Caribbean_Smurf on December 03, 2011, 08:41:00 AM
The last hour was spectacular, both in riffing and visually (story was still garbage obviously) so I'd say 8. Best one of the Transformer films.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: TheUnabeefer on December 08, 2011, 01:44:10 PM
8 for me.... The movie dragged it down a bit.  I really couldn't figure out what was happening when and where throughout much of the film.  Actually, the first half was just a pile of shit that made no sense and had worthless attempts at dialogue.

Fun riff though!
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Phantom of Krankor on December 09, 2011, 03:35:34 PM
I'd say this is the best of the three Transformers Rifftraxes. Lots of really good lines. And I'm amazed that the best jokes came out of the conufsing chaos during the endless Chicago battle sequence.

As for the Transformers movies themselves, I'd say the first is the best because its somewhat watchable while the other two are just god awful dreck. Especially the second. That movie literally hurt me.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: turbospaz3000 on December 09, 2011, 03:47:02 PM
easily a 10. this one might have been their best ever. its a laugh riot from start to finish. i lost it when mike equates the "box" line with the ditzy blond. lol.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: eegah on December 10, 2011, 08:21:36 PM
Really good; probably the best of the Transformer riffs.

HOWEVER, these movies are extremely painful to watch. It's like getting poked with a bunch of screwdrivers for almost 3 hours straight. It will be a while before we watch this again (as was true of the other Transformers riffs). I hope that everyone involved receives karmic justice for what they've inflicted on the viewing audience.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: shodan on December 10, 2011, 11:59:53 PM
usually with a movie this bad, id say make Bay do a SWTHS and burn all copies of the movie but the riffs turn a crappy movie into something awesome. congrats on another home run.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Watchman on December 11, 2011, 01:40:28 AM
*Sigh* Well, I'm glad y'all liked it better than I did.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Bob on December 11, 2011, 06:04:43 AM
FINALLY watched this last night.

Wow, I cannot imagine anyone watching this movie un-riffed and actually liking it.   John M, John T and Frances McDormand had cringe worthly screen time.   I could not help but feel bad for them as they had TERRIBLE characters to play with horrible dialog.   It was just embarassing.   Not quite sure Alan Tudyk's character was supposed to be as they had him do horrible, random things.   At least he got a good paycheck out of it so he can afford to make good movies.

The puffed up lip leading lady was basically a prop to show her ass, so she did okay.   The other character actors were servicable and Shia was Shia.   I love character actor Kevin Dunn (plays the dad) so I hated to see him in this.   He has better lines as the PA voice at Midway airport than he had in this.   Glad to see that he is HBO's upcoming "Luck" where he can actually act.  And the thing that plays the mother and the asian guy.....wow....

The riff, thank god, was hilarious.......9/10.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Darth Geek on December 11, 2011, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: Bob on December 11, 2011, 06:04:43 AM
 John M, John T and Frances McDormand had cringe worthly screen time.   I could not help but feel bad for them as they had TERRIBLE characters to play with horrible dialog. 
I did at least appreciate how Frances McDormand's character just hated Shia and didn't want him to be there.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 11, 2011, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: Darth Geek on December 11, 2011, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: Bob on December 11, 2011, 06:04:43 AM
John M, John T and Frances McDormand had cringe worthly screen time.   I could not help but feel bad for them as they had TERRIBLE characters to play with horrible dialog. 
I did at least appreciate how Frances McDormand's character just hated Shia and didn't want him to be there.

DO NOT feel bad for these people! These are professional adults who knew full well what they were signing up for. These are not elementary school children being assign parts in a school play. These people were paid rather handsomely in exchange for their dignity and reputation. Especially Turturro. This guy has whored himself out for all three of these crap bombs.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: stansimpson on December 11, 2011, 01:58:47 PM
Quote from: D.B. Barnes on December 11, 2011, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: Darth Geek on December 11, 2011, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: Bob on December 11, 2011, 06:04:43 AM
John M, John T and Frances McDormand had cringe worthly screen time.   I could not help but feel bad for them as they had TERRIBLE characters to play with horrible dialog. 
I did at least appreciate how Frances McDormand's character just hated Shia and didn't want him to be there.

DO NOT feel bad for these people! These are professional adults who knew full well what they were signing up for. These are not elementary school children being assign parts in a school play. These people were paid rather handsomely in exchange for their dignity and reputation. Especially Turturro. This guy has whored himself out for all three of these crap bombs.

You just described every actor in Hollywood... and what every non-working actor in Hollywood wants to be.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Phantom of Krankor on December 11, 2011, 03:46:48 PM
Was anyone else really ticked off by the 9/11 imagery? I don't mind movies with 9/11 imagery in them, but just don't put them in undignified franchises about GIANT ROBOTS FROM OUTER SPACE!!!! And they played that crappy pop song over the images to make things worse.

Bill: Guys if I die in an attack like this and this song starts playing, please kill me again.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: stansimpson on December 11, 2011, 03:55:38 PM
Quote from: Phantom of Krankor on December 11, 2011, 03:46:48 PM
Was anyone else really ticked off by the 9/11 imagery? I don't mind movies with 9/11 imagery in them, but just don't put them in undignified franchises about GIANT ROBOTS FROM OUTER SPACE!!!!

You think that's bad? What say you the last scene of "Remember Me"?
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: shodan on December 11, 2011, 03:58:42 PM
Quote from: stansimpson on December 11, 2011, 03:55:38 PM
Quote from: Phantom of Krankor on December 11, 2011, 03:46:48 PM
Was anyone else really ticked off by the 9/11 imagery? I don't mind movies with 9/11 imagery in them, but just don't put them in undignified franchises about GIANT ROBOTS FROM OUTER SPACE!!!!

You think that's bad? What say you the last scene of "Remember Me"?

whoever shoehorned that in a movie is going to burn in a very deep circle of hell.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 11, 2011, 03:59:01 PM
Quote from: stansimpson on December 11, 2011, 03:55:38 PM
Quote from: Phantom of Krankor on December 11, 2011, 03:46:48 PM
Was anyone else really ticked off by the 9/11 imagery? I don't mind movies with 9/11 imagery in them, but just don't put them in undignified franchises about GIANT ROBOTS FROM OUTER SPACE!!!!

You think that's bad? What say you the last scene of "Remember Me"?


"Line?"
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Prince of Space 5049 on December 11, 2011, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Phantom of Krankor on December 11, 2011, 03:46:48 PM
Was anyone else really ticked off by the 9/11 imagery? I don't mind movies with 9/11 imagery in them, but just don't put them in undignified franchises about GIANT ROBOTS FROM OUTER SPACE!!!! And they played that crappy pop song over the images to make things worse.

Bill: Guys if I die in an attack like this and this song starts playing, please kill me again.

I was very pleased the way MK&B made reference to what a slap in the face this stuff was.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: stansimpson on December 11, 2011, 06:03:29 PM
Quote from: Prince of Space 5049 on December 11, 2011, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Phantom of Krankor on December 11, 2011, 03:46:48 PM
Was anyone else really ticked off by the 9/11 imagery? I don't mind movies with 9/11 imagery in them, but just don't put them in undignified franchises about GIANT ROBOTS FROM OUTER SPACE!!!! And they played that crappy pop song over the images to make things worse.

Bill: Guys if I die in an attack like this and this song starts playing, please kill me again.

I was very pleased the way MK&B made reference to what a slap in the face this stuff was.

And I'm very pleased to know that the Prince of Space and the Phantom of Krankor are on such nice terms with each other considering all that they've been through.

And now my avatar is making me confused!!
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Phantom of Krankor on December 13, 2011, 01:07:03 PM
Quote from: stansimpson on December 11, 2011, 06:03:29 PM
Quote from: Prince of Space 5049 on December 11, 2011, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Phantom of Krankor on December 11, 2011, 03:46:48 PM
Was anyone else really ticked off by the 9/11 imagery? I don't mind movies with 9/11 imagery in them, but just don't put them in undignified franchises about GIANT ROBOTS FROM OUTER SPACE!!!! And they played that crappy pop song over the images to make things worse.

Bill: Guys if I die in an attack like this and this song starts playing, please kill me again.

I was very pleased the way MK&B made reference to what a slap in the face this stuff was.

And I'm very pleased to know that the Prince of Space and the Phantom of Krankor are on such nice terms with each other considering all that they've been through.

And now my avatar is making me confused!!

NONONONONONO waaita second.... YAA SCUM!!!!
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 13, 2011, 01:15:33 PM
Quote from: Phantom of Krankor on December 13, 2011, 01:07:03 PM
Quote from: stansimpson on December 11, 2011, 06:03:29 PM
Quote from: Prince of Space 5049 on December 11, 2011, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Phantom of Krankor on December 11, 2011, 03:46:48 PM
Was anyone else really ticked off by the 9/11 imagery? I don't mind movies with 9/11 imagery in them, but just don't put them in undignified franchises about GIANT ROBOTS FROM OUTER SPACE!!!! And they played that crappy pop song over the images to make things worse.

Bill: Guys if I die in an attack like this and this song starts playing, please kill me again.

I was very pleased the way MK&B made reference to what a slap in the face this stuff was.

And I'm very pleased to know that the Prince of Space and the Phantom of Krankor are on such nice terms with each other considering all that they've been through.

And now my avatar is making me confused!!

NONONONONONO waaita second.... YAA SCUM!!!!

HEAH! HEAH! HEAH! HEEEAAAHH!!!
*WHEEZE* *COUGH* CHOKE*
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Watchman on December 13, 2011, 08:00:48 PM
Quote from: D.B. Barnes on December 13, 2011, 01:15:33 PM
HEAH! HEAH! HEAH! HEEEAAAHH!!!
*WHEEZE* *COUGH* CHOKE*


Are you sure General Grievous was in Trans3?

"These pillars will make a nice addition To My Collec-tion!"
("We must find Optimus Dooku.")
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 13, 2011, 08:03:38 PM
Quote from: Sutter Cane on December 13, 2011, 08:00:48 PM
Quote from: D.B. Barnes on December 13, 2011, 01:15:33 PM
HEAH! HEAH! HEAH! HEEEAAAHH!!!
*WHEEZE* *COUGH* CHOKE*


Are you sure General Grievous was in Trans3?

"These pillars will make a nice addition To My Collec-tion!"
("We must find Optimus Dooku.")

"You'll get Autobot all over your hands."
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Edward J Grug III on December 26, 2011, 08:02:18 PM
9 out of 10 from me - My favourite Transformers riff!

What a turd of a film.
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: shodan on January 30, 2012, 09:53:03 AM
michael bay is pretty lazy.he's using stock footage.
(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwFRs9.gif&hash=af66b95c2754d1e50f00dc38a5c6dfb9893ebc56)
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Edward J Grug III on January 30, 2012, 01:16:58 PM
All I can think of is how sorry I am for the person who was able to pick that...
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: Compound on January 30, 2012, 03:11:08 PM
Quote from: Shodan一心流 on January 30, 2012, 09:53:03 AM
michael bay is pretty lazy.he's using stock footage.
(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwFRs9.gif&hash=af66b95c2754d1e50f00dc38a5c6dfb9893ebc56)

Yeah, that's not laziness. One of the bystanders got injured during the shooting of the TF3 sequence that was supposed to be shown there. Instead of using the sequence he filmed for TF3, he used the bit from The Island instead. 'cause, you know, no one went to the hospital during that shoot. 
Title: Re: Rank-a-Riffbot
Post by: CHF01 on March 04, 2012, 08:28:55 PM
Man, this was hard to sit through. I found it was more bearable when watching in 10-15 increments. The riff made it all worthwhile though. This was a well written track and expertly performed. 8.5 out of 10...another winner from MKB.