Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed

[Rude]

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Oh my God... break out the tin-foil hats, kids!

-Rude

[RoninFox]

[bettertomorrowamy]

Yes, but how does this help the Basque Separatists?

[BathTub]

Well they dont' have to waste time taking the poll.

[ScottotD]

"Do you think Darwin's theories are outdated?"

As opposed to a 2000 year old book?

[jewishcarpenter]

What?  Creationists being intellectually dishonest?  Say it ain't so!

Seeing that's how they got a few people to appear in their film by misrepresenting themselves and the original intention of the movie, it's definitely not a huge stretch of the imagination. Ben Stein's had no shame so far. I don't think they do a very good job representing all the other creationists that could've done a better job without all the deception.

[BBQ Platypus]

What?  Creationists being intellectually dishonest?  Say it ain't so!

Seeing that's how they got a few people to appear in their film by misrepresenting themselves and the original intention of the movie, it's definitely not a huge stretch of the imagination. Ben Stein's had no shame so far. I don't think they do a very good job representing all the other creationists that could've done a better job without all the deception.

Well, that's exactly what I was getting at, but...thanks for saying it anyway, I guess.

[jewishcarpenter]

What?  Creationists being intellectually dishonest?  Say it ain't so!

Seeing that's how they got a few people to appear in their film by misrepresenting themselves and the original intention of the movie, it's definitely not a huge stretch of the imagination. Ben Stein's had no shame so far. I don't think they do a very good job representing all the other creationists that could've done a better job without all the deception.

Well, that's exactly what I was getting at, but...thanks for saying it anyway, I guess.

My name is Goose and I am your wingman.

[jewishcarpenter]

I was on netflix and I noticed that they had Expelled available for Instantly Viewing it had a rating of 1 star overall. I'm half tempted to play the movie while I'm working.

[BathTub]

Roger Ebert has written a fairly substantial piece on the film called "Win Ben Steins Mind"

[Reductio_ad_absurdum]

Roger Ebert has written a fairly substantial piece on the film called "Win Ben Steins Mind"

I've even noted in my biology classes that the big misconception that is fueling the anti-evolution hysteria (well beyond simply taking the Genesis account too literally.  What's next, trying to prove that dragons exist so that the dragon can try to eat the baby as Revelations stated?) is that it is not being taught that there is a difference between Abiogenesis and Evolution.  Evolution relates how life (that it assumes to have already existed) changes over time.  Abiogenesis tries to explain the origin of life.

The question is abiogenesis and where the debate should be.

[BathTub]

Probably the best part of the column is this.

The more you know about evolution, or simple logic, the more you are likely to be appalled by the film. No one with an ability for critical thinking could watch more than three minutes without becoming aware of its tactics. It isn't even subtle. Take its treatment of Dawkins, who throughout his interviews with Stein is honest, plain-spoken, and courteous. As Stein goes to interview him for the last time, we see a makeup artist carefully patting on rouge and dusting Dawkins' face. After he is prepared and composed, after the shine has been taken off his nose, here comes plain, down-to-earth, workaday Ben Stein. So we get the vain Dawkins with his effete makeup, talking to the ordinary Joe.

I have done television interviews for more than 40 years. I have been on both ends of the questions. I have news for you. Everyone is made up before going on television. If they are not, they will look like death warmed over. There is not a person reading this right now who should go on camera without some kind of makeup. Even the obligatory "shocked neighbors" standing in their front yards after a murder usually have some powder brushed on by the camera person. Was Ben Stein wearing makeup? Of course he was. Did he whisper to his camera crew to roll while Dawkins was being made up? Of course he did. Otherwise, no camera operator on earth would have taped that. That incident dramatizes his approach throughout the film. If you want to study Gotcha! moments, start here.

[Lovye]

Charles Darwin is the guy who kicked started things off, he had a powerful idea, was wrong in many places, but gave the science a powerful start, but the subject has moved on.

No.  That's not true.  It was first proposed by Catholic botanist Jean-Baptiste Pierre Antoine de Monet.  ...Forgive me if this has already been stated.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_first_studied_evolution

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08753c.htm

http://www.catholicity.com/encyclopedia/l/lamarck,chevalier_de.html

[Nick]

Wow. How extraordinarily unimportant. You do realize he said that six months ago right?

And now, to the topic at hand, fucking brilliant article by Ebert. I give it a

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Wait for it.

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TWO THUMBS UP! 

[Nick]

Thank you.