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The Dark Knight (SPOILERS)

Started by Rufus T, July 29, 2007, 10:04:15 AM

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a pretty girl is like

Quote from: Sideswipe on August 15, 2008, 02:58:22 PM
Quote from: A Pretty Girl Is Like on August 15, 2008, 02:43:41 PM
A lot of wishful thinking unfortunately since the third movie hasn't even been greenlit. 

Pretty though.

I would think that with the money that the Dark Knight has made a sequel would be inevitable. 

As inevitable as the sun coming up in the morning, you're right. 
I'm all out for kicks...and every inch of me spells EXCITEMENT!

Junkyard

Quote from: ninjacat11 on August 15, 2008, 03:34:16 PM
CAP got a hold of this movie.

http://www.capalert.com/capreports/darkknight-the.htm


They didn't create a new catagory for "Magic Tricks?" Seems unfair, and also unwise, as there WILL be copycats in upcoming movies.

Tripe

Quote from: ninjacat11 on August 15, 2008, 03:34:16 PM
CAP got a hold of this movie.

http://www.capalert.com/capreports/darkknight-the.htm

Gawd bless those puritanical loons

I surprised they didn't fond fault with The Passion ;D

I love how they find the most "offensive" movie they can to cite for Heath Ledger and that they miss the point entirely about the "why so serious" story, perhaps they had run screaming from the cinema before the other origin story came up and spent that portion of the film hyperventilating into a brown paper bag..

Junkyard

QuoteThe Joker is, of course, not responsible for his rampage of villainy and malfeasance. One must always understand that a bad daddy is the one responsible for his adult son's evil choices since the victim of a dysfunctional home never has a mind of his own. At least that is apparently what the Spocks and Frueds want us to believe.

I didn't read the article at first, but having done so-

Seriously, the "Why So Serious" thing was one of the most clever things I've ever seen a movie do against the audience!
You hear him give his schpeal, and you're like- "Oh, great- so the Joker's just a kid with a violent father. Thanks, movie." The thought retreats to the back of your mind as you watch the movie, and suddenly-
He gives another origin story.
A FICTIONAL CHARACTER GOT THE BETTER OF THE AUDIENCE. We were all rubes!

The reviewer didn't just miss the point, he missed the MOVIE.

Tripe

Exactly, which is why I think he must have been out of the theatre when that happened, in a foetal position, sobbing softly.

Junkyard

I actually just sent a heads up to him, trying to be as sympathetic and diplomatic as possible to point out that he basically missed an important bit of movie.

We'll see what happens with this.

Tripe

Oh if you get a response please do share.

Junkyard


Keroppi20

#1088
Hmm, according to CAP I am currently guilty of "sexual immorality", I better go change my shirt and take off my underwear  ;)  (adults in underwear... really?)
I meditate diligently every morning. The subject is Life and Love. I quit after three seconds.

-Vash

a pretty girl is like

Quote from: ninjacat11 on August 15, 2008, 03:34:16 PM
CAP sins commited in this movie:

# fall with unconsciousness

Huh!?  Are they officially calling Harvey as being alive?  That's ballsy of them!
I'm all out for kicks...and every inch of me spells EXCITEMENT!

esoobaC .T bocaJ

Quote from: A Pretty Girl Is Like on August 15, 2008, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: ninjacat11 on August 15, 2008, 03:34:16 PM
CAP sins commited in this movie:

# fall with unconsciousness

Huh!?  Are they officially calling Harvey as being alive?  That's ballsy of them!

well, to be fair, they weren't really paying attention
flesyht etah tsum uoy ,flesyht evas oT

Junkyard

Wow, can't fault him his response time. From a returned email-

QuoteThat the writers were mocking the "father's fault" matter is why I 
did not bring it up that The Joker contradicted himself later.  And 
it was a perfect launch for letting people know that Spock admitted 
he was wrong.  And, though I didn't point it out (but might), 
together two versions of his family history gave meat to at least one 
parameter of the character of The Joker: that the truth is not in him.

Regarding following the plot, it is the lesser matter in our 
analyses.  I am not a movie critic nor will I ever be.  So, sometimes 
I am wrong about the plot, story, message, etc.  But then, if you 
have read the text of the
BEFORE You Read On..." link atop the Summary/Commentary, you'll 
understand why the "plot" is the lesser and maybe just the "necessary 
evil" parameter of our analysis methodology.

Thank you for your comments, Victor.

So he misrepresented the movie so he could rant about the shortcomings of modern parenting philosophy? And yet he'll ding a kid's movie if a character tells a white lie.
Also, he wants me to read a short novel's worth of explination and justification to understand why he'd do this.

At least he's polite enough.

Tripe


Quote from: Junkyard on August 15, 2008, 07:51:07 PM
Wow, can't fault him his response time. From a returned email-

QuoteThat the writers were mocking the "father's fault" matter is why I 
did not bring it up that The Joker contradicted himself later.  And 
it was a perfect launch for letting people know that Spock admitted 
he was wrong.  And, though I didn't point it out (but might), 
together two versions of his family history gave meat to at least one 
parameter of the character of The Joker: that the truth is not in him.

Regarding following the plot, it is the lesser matter in our 
analyses.  I am not a movie critic nor will I ever be.  So, sometimes 
I am wrong about the plot, story, message, etc.  But then, if you 
have read the text of the
BEFORE You Read On..." link atop the Summary/Commentary, you'll 
understand why the "plot" is the lesser and maybe just the "necessary 
evil" parameter of our analysis methodology.

Thank you for your comments, Victor.

So he misrepresented the movie so he could rant about the shortcomings of modern parenting philosophy? And yet he'll ding a kid's movie if a character tells a white lie.
Also, he wants me to read a short novel's worth of explination and justification to understand why he'd do this.

At least he's polite enough.


Yeah he's a mounmen...


Quote from: Keroppi20 on August 15, 2008, 05:22:00 PM
Hmm, according to CAP I am currently guilty of "sexual immorality", I better go change my shirt and take off my underwear  ;)  (adults in underwear... really?)

Wait, what?


Er yeah, where was I?

Oh yes

...tal prick, albeit a courteous one

Nuke Mayhem

Warning: Personal View Rant Coming



I'm sure you heard it from random people, co-workers, friends, family, and especially celebrities tiring to show they care but just sound stupid:

"Don't bring back the Joker!"

What I want to know is where did people get the idea that replacing the actor to play the Joker is insulting to Heath Ledger's memory as peeing over his grave site? Yes, Heath Ledger's death was very tragic and I pray for his family especially his little daughter, but the Joker was not his creation nor does he owns the rights to that character, it's Bob Kane's creation and is own by DC.

When someone says the word Batman, there are three characters that automatically comes to a person's mind in any random order after the dark knight himself: Robin, Bruce Wayne and the Joker. The Joker is Batman's greatest villain because he's the polar opposite to him and symbolizes why Bruce put on the cape and cowl in the first place to fight against: Chaos. He's also the villain that has the greatest chance to make batman "cross the line". Sure there were more powerful and dangerous villains in the Batman franchise that have wrecked Batman's world in ways the Joker can't, but being the very first criminal in the very first Batman comic Bob Kane wrote to help establish the Batman universe is something none of those other villains can ever top.

No disrespect to Heath but it would be a stupid move for Warner Brothers to wipe Joker from the movie series over his death. Heath was already working on a different movie during his death "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus", months after he finished his work on The Dark Knight, so the movie isn't cursed nor pressured him to death. Can you think of any other character that can believably get under this movie-series-Batman's skin like the Joker and not be looked as overacting by Christian Bale? Sure Heath's performance in The Dark Night will most likely never be topped and anybody who says a different actor could of done better or they should bring back the Joker will probably get slap or spit in the face by everyone who heard that person, but there are still so many possibilities and roads for this character that can make great squeals (like a good look into his past of how he got messed up, meeting Harley Quinn, making Batman cross the line for real, and so-on), and you tell me we should close those roads over a death that isn't even the movie's fault?

The only thing these "Don't bring back the Joker" statements is doing is giving the WB a problem. Because if they do decide to bring back the Joker for a future sequel you know what will happen, there will be protesters boycotting the movie and Batman franchise, stupid celebrities talking as if the WB literally insulted the memory of Heath Ledger, crazy Christians saying how Batman and Joker are tools of the devil, and a bunch of other stupid crap that there's no good reason for.

Just want to get that off my chest but if you don't want to read all that, I'll just sum it up in 19 simple words:

Let Heath Ledger rest in peace, and let Wanner Brothers and DC Comics use the Joker for future movies!

Junkyard

I still say "Don't Bring back the Joker," but more because I can't see it being done gracefully than any "respect for the dead" issues.