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Sideswipe

Quote from: Imrahil on August 13, 2008, 06:54:20 PM
Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on August 13, 2008, 02:49:21 PM
QuoteRobert Downey Jr starred in "Iron Man," the biggest surprise-hit of the year. But how does he feel about the other comic book movie that is currently aiming to become the second biggest earner of all time, "The Dark Knight." Moviehole got the chance to speak to Downey, who was not shy about expressing his feelings toward the new Batman film.

"My whole thing is that that I saw 'The Dark Knight'," said Downey. "I feel like I'm dumb because I feel like I don't get how many things that are so smart. It's like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and script writing and I'm like, 'That's not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.' I loved 'The Prestige' but didn't understand 'The Dark Knight'. Didn't get it, still can't tell you what happened in the movie, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I'm like, 'I get it. This is so high brow and so f--king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.' You know what? F-ck DC comics. That's all I have to say and that's where I'm really coming from."

He added that if he never works with DC Comics, it will be fine with him. "You know, you're never too old to burn your bridges because I believe I have offended everyone," he said. "I think I've got a couple more. 'I'll burn that bridge when I come to it' is my favorite phrase I've ever coined."

Ass-clown.

Robert Downey Jr. Kicks ass.

I was bieng threated with death by wolf raping before it was cool!.

Doctor Who?

You would say that you stupid Go-Bot! ;)

daltysmilth

Quote from: esoobaC .T bocaJ on August 13, 2008, 06:56:59 PM
oh yeah, also,

Spoiler
QuoteWhile many people went to see "The Dark Knight," only a few know exactly what happened at the end of the movie. If you have not seen "Knight" yet, do not keep reading.

SPOILERS AHEAD:

At the end of the film, Harvey Dent/Two-Face apparently fell to his death during a standoff with Batman and Jim Gordon in a warehouse. Some have suggested that Dent is not dead due to rumors that he will appear in the third Batman movie and the fact that there was no blood. Also, no coffin was seen at the Dent memorial. So could Two-Face be locked away in a hospital or a mental institution?

"The Dark Knight" producer Emma Thomas touched on the topic when IGN brought it up. Unfortunately, her reply was not very helpful, stating that fans could interpret it either way they'd like.

But what were the filmmaker going for? In the movie novelization, author Dennis O'Neil wrote, "Dent was sprawled, neck twisted, the mutilated side of his face exposed, his left eye open and staring sightlessly. He was obviously dead."

And the script by Jonathan and Christopher Nolan -- included in "The Dark Knight: Featuring Production Art and Full Shooting Script" -- states, "Dent lies at the bottom of the hole, his neck broken. DEAD."

So there is your answer. Two-Face will not be returning for part 3.




Well, just because something is in the script, that doesn't make it canonical.  Sometimes scenes get rewritten on set because what was in the script didn't work.  Other times, they make changes after scenes don't perform well in test screenings.  And other times changes are made because the director simply changes his mind about some of the facts.  Originally, Luke and Leia were not supposed to be twins, and likely not even siblings.  The script for Star Wars referred to Leia as being 16 and Luke as 20.  Their mother would have had to be in labor a REALLY long time for them to be twins, yet four years apart in age.  Unless Tattoine and Alderaan measure years differently, which, come to think of it, is a distinct possibility.  Actually, now that I think about it, it does make sense.  What are the chances that two different planets in two different solar systems would take the same amount of time to make a complete orbit of the sun?  Anyway, another reason things from the script get changed is that sometimes they make changes based on the actors.  You might write a character as being a slick New Yorker, but then you get an actor who decides to read the character with a southern accent, and decide you like that better, so you alter the character's origin so that he comes from Tennessee instead of Long Island.
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Quote from: Sideswipe on August 13, 2008, 07:59:31 PM
Quote from: Imrahil on August 13, 2008, 06:54:20 PM
Quote from: Jacob T. Caboose on August 13, 2008, 02:49:21 PM
QuoteRobert Downey Jr starred in "Iron Man," the biggest surprise-hit of the year. But how does he feel about the other comic book movie that is currently aiming to become the second biggest earner of all time, "The Dark Knight." Moviehole got the chance to speak to Downey, who was not shy about expressing his feelings toward the new Batman film.

"My whole thing is that that I saw 'The Dark Knight'," said Downey. "I feel like I'm dumb because I feel like I don't get how many things that are so smart. It's like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and script writing and I'm like, 'That's not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.' I loved 'The Prestige' but didn't understand 'The Dark Knight'. Didn't get it, still can't tell you what happened in the movie, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I'm like, 'I get it. This is so high brow and so f--king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.' You know what? F-ck DC comics. That's all I have to say and that's where I'm really coming from."

He added that if he never works with DC Comics, it will be fine with him. "You know, you're never too old to burn your bridges because I believe I have offended everyone," he said. "I think I've got a couple more. 'I'll burn that bridge when I come to it' is my favorite phrase I've ever coined."

Ass-clown.

Robert Downey Jr. Kicks ass.

totally
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Quote from: Courtney on August 13, 2008, 07:28:58 PM
Oh Christ people, he was joking.

Glad I'm not the only person who thought that.
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Tripe

It's so monumentally over the top the tongue has to be jammed into the cheek.

Rather than "Ass Clown", I think "Magnificent Bastard" might be a more appropriate response :)

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Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on August 14, 2008, 05:30:56 AM
It's so monumentally over the top the tongue has to be jammed into the cheek.

Rather than "Ass Clown", I think "Magnificent Bastard" might be a more appropriate response :)

totally


it reminds me a lot of that youtube clip where Iron man gets pissed off at Batman because The Dark Knight may actually live up to the hype


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Courtney

Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on August 14, 2008, 05:30:56 AM
It's so monumentally over the top the tongue has to be jammed into the cheek.


I'd let him jam his tongue into my cheek.

Ew.  That seems like it would hurt.  What I'm saying is I'd like to have sex with him.



Doctor Who?

He was either Joking or it was the drugs talking,take your pick.

Tripe

Quote from: Courtney on August 14, 2008, 06:59:45 AM
Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on August 14, 2008, 05:30:56 AM
It's so monumentally over the top the tongue has to be jammed into the cheek.


I'd let him jam his tongue into my cheek.

Ew.  That seems like it would hurt.  What I'm saying is I'd like to have sex with him.

I think Ann might fight you for that opportunity.

Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck

Quote from: Doctor Who? on August 14, 2008, 07:01:10 AM
He was either Joking or it was the drugs talking,take your pick.
I want to believe that the drugs are gone in that one.....at least I'm willing to give him the benefit.

And you know what, even if he was serious when he said....

Quote"My whole thing is that that I saw 'The Dark Knight'," said Downey. "I feel like I'm dumb because I feel like I don't get how many things that are so smart. It's like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and script writing and I'm like, 'That's not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.' "

That's his opinion of what he enjoys when he goes to the movies.  He doesn't want stuff where he has to work to be entertained.   And I can understand that.  Everyone likes something different.  That's why there's more than one flavor of ice cream.

Courtney

Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on August 14, 2008, 07:48:25 AM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on August 14, 2008, 07:01:10 AM
He was either Joking or it was the drugs talking,take your pick.
I want to believe that the drugs are gone in that one.....at least I'm willing to give him the benefit.

It actually bothers me when people question his sobriety without reason.  But I'm pretty oversensitive when it comes to jokes about addicts.



Doctor Who?

Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on August 14, 2008, 07:48:25 AM
Quote from: Doctor Who? on August 14, 2008, 07:01:10 AM
He was either Joking or it was the drugs talking,take your pick.
I want to believe that the drugs are gone in that one.....at least I'm willing to give him the benefit.

And you know what, even if he was serious when he said....

Quote"My whole thing is that that I saw 'The Dark Knight'," said Downey. "I feel like I'm dumb because I feel like I don't get how many things that are so smart. It's like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and script writing and I'm like, 'That's not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.' "

That's his opinion of what he enjoys when he goes to the movies.  He doesn't want stuff where he has to work to be entertained.   And I can understand that.  Everyone likes something different.  That's why there's more than one flavor of ice cream.

No there isn't,Rocky Road is the only flavor!!!!

Don't you have to think at some point to follow the plot of any movie that isn't Epic movie.

Seems to me everything he has made violated his own rule.

Rude

Quote from: daltysmilthWell, just because something is in the script, that doesn't make it canonical.  Sometimes scenes get rewritten on set because what was in the script didn't work.  Other times, they make changes after scenes don't perform well in test screenings.  And other times changes are made because the director simply changes his mind about some of the facts.  Originally, Luke and Leia were not supposed to be twins, and likely not even siblings.  The script for Star Wars referred to Leia as being 16 and Luke as 20.  Their mother would have had to be in labor a REALLY long time for them to be twins, yet four years apart in age.  Unless Tattoine and Alderaan measure years differently, which, come to think of it, is a distinct possibility.  Actually, now that I think about it, it does make sense.  What are the chances that two different planets in two different solar systems would take the same amount of time to make a complete orbit of the sun?

That has got to be the best digression i've ever seen! It was like reading a big nerdy stream of consciousness... awesome.

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