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The Dark Knight (SPOILERS)

Started by Rufus T, July 29, 2007, 10:04:15 AM

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Variety of Cells

Quote from: daltysmilth on July 24, 2008, 02:28:50 PM
Okay, I just watched it a second time, and frankly, on repeat viewing, there are certain flaws in the film. 



The cell phone was more of a political statement rather than a neat device, which is why I was able to suspend my disbelief for that one because it did raise a few interesting questions. 

Though i was able to look over most of the other impossibilities because at its heart it felt very realistic.  The way it was shot and presented.  There was no evil doomsday device that was going to blow up the world.  Just a crazy man trying to kill a few people.  I found that much more interesting.

But if you want to talk about realism, how was two face able to keep his profound speaking voice with only half his lips?

skenderberg

It's a comic book movie.  There's always going to be something that couldn't happen in the real world.  That's why we like them.  While I applaud Nolan's ability to drag the series as far towards realism as he did, at some point you just have to relax and accept that you're watching a movie about a ninja in a bat costume. 
I thought I was Dale.

Chaos

Quote from: skenderberg on July 24, 2008, 07:19:04 PM
It's a comic book movie.  There's always going to be something that couldn't happen in the real world.  That's why we like them.  While I applaud Nolan's ability to drag the series as far towards realism as he did, at some point you just have to relax and accept that you're watching a movie about a ninja in a bat costume. 

Exactly. Don't over-analyze.
"First there was Chaos, the vast immeasurable abyss, Outrageous as a sea, dark, wasteful, wild." -Milton

The Dark Knight

Well, I guess since it hasn't been to long since The Dark Knight came out I could give my review of the movie. Well I guess its gonna be kinda short but try to enjoy it.

Note: I didn't edit this, I just did this so chillax when it comes to grammar and that stuff.:)

The Dark Knight to me brought something that many superhero movies couldn't bring at all, realism. TDK strived on realism to the point it made you feel like Batman was real and hell he pratically was. TDK strives on realism which is probably the reason its one of the best movies of the year and probably the past 5 years.

The story to me seems to be crunched in a dynamically long 2 Hours and 32 minute time length. This feels terribly long but it really isn't. Past movies that finished of at that length literally made you feel happy to pop out of your seat and leave the theater(Spider-Man 3 and Pirates I'm looking at you) but this film excelled beyond that.  The story maps Batman again being our dynamic none superhero, hero saving Gotham one baddie at a time. Now he has the help from a hotshot DA in Harvey Dent whos flashy ways have booked up all the criminals and made crime low. Two dramatic things happen, 1 Batman realizes that there is no need for his Crusading ways and decides to stop being Batman. 2nd, a new criminal submerges with the calling card of The Joker who uses his psychotic ways and unorthudox ways to do his deeds. The Joker then takes all the remaining mob bosses men and forces them to work for him to get to the Holy Grail for crime bosses...killing The Caped Crusader. I'm gonna leave it off right there.

Batman to me is uncomparable to past movies like Spidey 3 and Iron Man. It doesn't try hard at all and excels in every level. All the actors took out their A game and brought it in this film. None of the acting feels forced and the movie is a rocky climatic 2 hours that will have you on the edge of your seat. Come January, it would be a real disapointment to see neither Heath Ledger or The Dark Knight nominated.

Grade: A


He's the hero that Gotham deserves
But not the one it needs right now
And so we'll hunt him... Because he can take it
Because he's not a hero... He's a silent guardian
A watchful protector... A DARK KNIGHT.

Doktor Sleepless

Yes, a man dressing up like a bat and being taken serious is very realistic. Just like a man driving a tank that can go a million miles an hour and destorying an entire cities neighborhood can be cheered by it's citized. If it was one thing this did  bring it was realism alright. I mean we all watch/read super hero movies because of that, don't we? Because it's totally possible to be bitten by something, to fall in something, or to have space men come and develop super powers. Also because every rich person who's family gets killed dresses up like a disease ridden animal, talks like he is constipated, and is not made fun of. Yup. Realism.
Round about now! Since they say! I am the sexiest man in Jamaica!

Tripe

Quote from: TripeHoundRedux on July 21, 2008, 06:40:59 AM
I liked the more realistic seeming (because obviously we're not really dealing with true realism, hence the costumed criminals and crime fighters) depiction of Gotham.

The Dark Knight

Quote from: Doktor Sleepless on July 25, 2008, 11:31:37 AM
Yes, a man dressing up like a bat and being taken serious is very realistic. Just like a man driving a tank that can go a million miles an hour and destorying an entire cities neighborhood can be cheered by it's citized. If it was one thing this did  bring it was realism alright. I mean we all watch/read super hero movies because of that, don't we? Because it's totally possible to be bitten by something, to fall in something, or to have space men come and develop super powers. Also because every rich person who's family gets killed dresses up like a disease ridden animal, talks like he is constipated, and is not made fun of. Yup. Realism.

Alright, good class of maturity here. ;), What I was saying was creating a realm of realism into Batman makes the movie better because out of all the superhero's Batman is the closest to our world. Some of the stuff might not be like real stuff you and I can do but its more real than stuff Superman can do. Thats all I was saying.


He's the hero that Gotham deserves
But not the one it needs right now
And so we'll hunt him... Because he can take it
Because he's not a hero... He's a silent guardian
A watchful protector... A DARK KNIGHT.

wurwolf

I think you missed the poin, Doktor Sleepless. It's not about realism like you'd see outside of your own front door, but rather about realism within the world of movies. If that makes any sense.
Bonhead #2
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Doktor Sleepless

No man, I now see I'm totally in the wrong here. Clearly my reading of comics for the past half of my current life, and watching as many films from every genre have led me to a narrow way of watching films. Clearly when watching ANYTHING I need to take it as seriously as the film makers do. Hell in some cases even more seriously! Machine girl was supposed to be a remake of some Shakespearan film right?
Round about now! Since they say! I am the sexiest man in Jamaica!

Tripe

"the mes-en-scene" is the phrase you'll be wanting there Wurwolf :)

wurwolf

Quote from: Doktor Sleepless on July 25, 2008, 11:44:47 AM
No man, I now see I'm totally in the wrong here. Clearly my reading of comics for the past half of my current life, and watching as many films from every genre have led me to a narrow way of watching films. Clearly when watching ANYTHING I need to take it as seriously as the film makers do. Hell in some cases even more seriously! Machine girl was supposed to be a remake of some Shakespearan film right?

Oh good, I knew you'd come around.  :clap:
Bonhead #2
fs!!


Doktor Sleepless

Guys are rubbing off alright. Say guys you know history of violence was based on a graphic novel? Blew my mind when I found out. It's not even about a super hero or something cool like Frank Miller writes. Frank Miller is the best comic book writer ever by the way guys. Yeah though Batman still totally is the best movie ever made. I can't wait for future generations to build a time machine just to save Heath Ledger, so we can have more movies with a guy wearing make up while being an asshole. I'm hoping the next Joker will wear a giant afro wig for no particular reason either.
Round about now! Since they say! I am the sexiest man in Jamaica!

Tripe

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Quote from: Doktor Sleepless on July 25, 2008, 11:54:52 AM
Guys are rubbing off alright. Say guys you know history of violence was based on a graphic novel?

Yes as was The Road to Perdition
and American Splendor
and Ghost World
and Persepolis - (everyone go find that one BTW)
and V for Vendetta

So what? You don't like this one, we understand that, you've failed to add anything new with your subsequent posts.

If you don't like the film an have nothing else to say except "I don't like this film" with different phrasing, why do you bother posting in this thread?

This was what you did back when you were googoogeiger, and look where that got you. ;)

Doktor Sleepless

Back when I was googergieger, I like I did in this thread said why I didn't like something, then afterwards after being attacked by everyone on the forum I was accussed of trolling. I've have yet to see a more unbiased an honest review of this movie than was given by me to be honest with you. Everyone hear besides me has just thrown up buzz words and short reviews done by fox tv, or spin, or rolling stone or some shite.

Want something substantial? Keaton was the better Batman, because Keaton was only as serious as the movie/script/world/etc let him. No more, no less. Certain people in this movie and people watching the movie could learn something from that. Now I didn't insult one person with this post. Let us see how all of a sudden everyone will either attack me, accuse me, tell on me, or all of the above, while all I said, as Redux put was "I don't like this movie as much as all of you. I disagree".
Round about now! Since they say! I am the sexiest man in Jamaica!

wurwolf

Quote from: Doktor Sleepless on July 25, 2008, 12:08:46 PM
Back when I was googergieger, I like I did in this thread said why I didn't like something, then afterwards after being attacked by everyone on the forum I was accussed of trolling. I've have yet to see a more unbiased an honest review of this movie than was given by me to be honest with you. Everyone hear besides me has just thrown up buzz words and short reviews done by fox tv, or spin, or rolling stone or some shite.

Want something substantial? Keaton was the better Batman, because Keaton was only as serious as the movie/script/world/etc let him. No more, no less. Certain people in this movie and people watching the movie could learn something from that. Now I didn't insult one person with this post. Let us see how all of a sudden everyone will either attack me, accuse me, tell on me, or all of the above, while all I said, as Redux put was "I don't like this movie as much as all of you. I disagree".

Again, missing the poin. You're getting on people's nerves not because you think the movie blows, but because you came busting in here ragging on people for saying the movie is realistic.
Bonhead #2
fs!!