The Dark Knight (SPOILERS)

[RoninFox]

Well, I'm still looking forward to this movie.

But I have to say, I really still believe that Batman: The Animated Series is the best incarnation of Batman I've ever seen. Ever.  Same with his villains.

I have to agree with you. The changes they made to Mr. Freeze really gave the character depth. I love Mark Hamill's Joker. I was just watching the PG-13 version of "Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker" again earlier this week. Great movie.

I never liked Mr. Freeze at all until the "Heart of Ice" episode.  Why couldn't the writers for that show have handled the Batman and Robin script?...and casting...and direction...and everything

[Chaos]

Yeah, B:tAS was undoubtedly the best serious incarnation of Batman ever, bar none. That show had some of the best retellings of my favourite comics (including the Joker Fish, with yet another magnificent performance by Mark), as well as some really interesting new stories as well. I agree about Mr. Freeze, the show's treatment of him was superb.

[gbeenie]

Well, I'm still looking forward to this movie.

But I have to say, I really still believe that Batman: The Animated Series is the best incarnation of Batman I've ever seen. Ever.  Same with his villains.

I have to agree with you. The changes they made to Mr. Freeze really gave the character depth. I love Mark Hamill's Joker. I was just watching the PG-13 version of "Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker" again earlier this week. Great movie.

I never liked Mr. Freeze at all until the "Heart of Ice" episode.  Why couldn't the writers for that show have handled the Batman and Robin script?...and casting...and direction...and everything

I've often said that if I were rich, I'd give Paul Dini and Bruce Timm an Xmas present: Joel Schumacher, tied to a chair, and a couple of Louisville Sluggers (remember how they made fun of him on that one B:TAS episode?).

[RoninFox]

Well, I'm still looking forward to this movie.

But I have to say, I really still believe that Batman: The Animated Series is the best incarnation of Batman I've ever seen. Ever.  Same with his villains.

I have to agree with you. The changes they made to Mr. Freeze really gave the character depth. I love Mark Hamill's Joker. I was just watching the PG-13 version of "Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker" again earlier this week. Great movie.

I never liked Mr. Freeze at all until the "Heart of Ice" episode.  Why couldn't the writers for that show have handled the Batman and Robin script?...and casting...and direction...and everything

I've often said that if I were rich, I'd give Paul Dini and Bruce Timm an Xmas present: Joel Schumacher, tied to a chair, and a couple of Louisville Sluggers (remember how they made fun of him on that one B:TAS episode?).

Don't remember that, can you jog my memory?

[gbeenie]

"Legends of the Dark Knight," the episode where a couple of kids give their different impressions of what Batman is like. One story is in the style of 50s Dick Sprang Batman comics, and the other is done in the style of Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns.

In between the two stories, the kids encounter another kid, named Joel, dressing a mannequin for a store-window display (Joel Schumacher used to be a window-dresser); Joel enthuses about Batman's "rubber armor," and how his car can drive up walls. The other kids dismiss Joel's take as pure hogwash.

[RoninFox]

Hey you're right.  That's awesome.     I love that episode.

[Doctor Who?]

I only discovered BTAS three years ago(I got a boxset of it for my little brother's birthday)and now I have to say that it is one of my favorite shows of all time.

It's the only tv or movie version of batman to get all the characters right.

I was always impressed with the fact that they made Robin cool something that every person who has ever made a big movie version has failed to do.

Also Kevin Conroy IS Batman,and Mark Hamill IS the Joker.

Sure I like other movie versions but none of them are as perfect as BTAS.

Also you should check out Justice League it's great too.

[RoninFox]

I was always impressed with the fact that they made Robin cool something that every person who has ever made a big movie version has failed to do.

That blew me away too.  Part of the secret there was they didn't overuse him.  They had him there when Batman needed a partner or when there was a good story to tell with him, but the didn't force him in when he didn't belong.  Batman still had his dark alone time.  I don't think they ever came out and said it blatantly, but I always figured that Dick was focussed on his schoolwork at Gotham U during the week and only fought crime on weekends.

Of course by the time they got to Tim Drake as Robin this dynamic (ignore the pun) changed.  Never liked Tim nearly as much though.  The last chunk of TAS when it became the "Batman Superman Adventures" had it's ups and downs for me and a lot of what they changed rubbed me the wrong way.

Also Kevin Conroy IS Batman,and Mark Hamill IS the Joker.

Yes he is, and yes he is (even when I am too)!  I picked up the 1989 Batman 2 disc set a couple months ago and got a huge kick out of one of the special features.  It's the storyboard of the deleted scene that would have introduced Robin in the midst of a Batman/Joker car chase, and for the DVD they had it voiced by Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill.  Great stuff.

[Chaos]

That last one of the Joker isn't good. But it is FABULOUS!

I give it three snaps up, in "Z" formation. *snap* *snap* *snap*

[Phantom of Krankor]

Okay, I wasn't too enthused about the look of the Joker before, but those pictures are changing my mind.

And yes, I agree that the animated series is probably the best incarnation of batman. I also have a lot of fond memories watching that show when I was little.

BTW, does it irk anyone else when someone says "To me, the truely best interpritation of batman will always be the 60s TV show." Ugh, yes its a classic and funny as hell, but it is NO WAY the best interpritation of batman.

[Tyrant]

Okay, I wasn't too enthused about the look of the Joker before, but those pictures are changing my mind.

And yes, I agree that the animated series is probably the best incarnation of batman. I also have a lot of fond memories watching that show when I was little.

BTW, does it irk anyone else when someone says "To me, the truely best interpritation of batman will always be the 60s TV show." Ugh, yes its a classic and funny as hell, but it is NO WAY the best interpritation of batman.

  If you like the Caped Crusader Batman, then yeah, the ,60s show is the best (and Lord have mercy, I'm picking it OVER the last few movies before Batman Begins). But if you're into the Dark Knight Batman, animated series lords over all.

[Doctor Who?]

I was always impressed with the fact that they made Robin cool something that every person who has ever made a big movie version has failed to do.

That blew me away too.  Part of the secret there was they didn't overuse him.  They had him there when Batman needed a partner or when there was a good story to tell with him, but the didn't force him in when he didn't belong.  Batman still had his dark alone time.  I don't think they ever came out and said it blatantly, but I always figured that Dick was focussed on his schoolwork at Gotham U during the week and only fought crime on weekends.

Of course by the time they got to Tim Drake as Robin this dynamic (ignore the pun) changed.  Never liked Tim nearly as much though.  The last chunk of TAS when it became the "Batman Superman Adventures" had it's ups and downs for me and a lot of what they changed rubbed me the wrong way.

Also Kevin Conroy IS Batman,and Mark Hamill IS the Joker.

Yes he is, and yes he is (even when I am too)!  I picked up the 1989 Batman 2 disc set a couple months ago and got a huge kick out of one of the special features.  It's the storyboard of the deleted scene that would have introduced Robin in the midst of a Batman/Joker car chase, and for the DVD they had it voiced by Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill.  Great stuff.

Yeah I nearly jumped out of my seat when I found that on my Batman disc.

It was great.

Also I love Harly Quinn(I am not sure I spelled that right,sorry but I am too tired to look it up)Any episode with her is a real treat.

[Tripe]

"Legends of the Dark Knight," the episode where a couple of kids give their different impressions of what Batman is like. One story is in the style of 50s Dick Sprang Batman comics, and the other is done in the style of Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns.

In between the two stories, the kids encounter another kid, named Joel, dressing a mannequin for a store-window display (Joel Schumacher used to be a window-dresser); Joel enthuses about Batman's "rubber armor," and how his car can drive up walls. The other kids dismiss Joel's take as pure hogwash.

Like this

and this

I love how the girl looks like Miller's Robin (prior to the Miller version I mean)

[gbeenie]

picked up the 1989 Batman 2 disc set a couple months ago and got a huge kick out of one of the special features.  It's the storyboard of the deleted scene that would have introduced Robin in the midst of a Batman/Joker car chase, and for the DVD they had it voiced by Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill.  Great stuff.

Oh crap! I never looked at my 2-disc Batman after I bought it; time to give that a look-see...

[gbeenie]

Thanks for posting that, Tripe. Bloody brilliant. I LOVE Michael McKean's Joker.