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Started by kyo, July 18, 2007, 06:25:11 PM

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Tripe

I've never heard that about King Kong, and I'd assume you were right seeing as he is a mammal

What I have heard and it's true, is due to the way invertebrates breath you can't have a giant spider. This is because the surface area to required oxygen would be too out of kilter.


Junkyard

The thing about big size isn't physical strength, but MATERIAL strength. Past a certain size, bones would shatter under their weight, guts would spill out through skin too thin to hold them, and blood would pool in the legs.

On the opposite side of things, a bug can be dropped from a proportional 300 feet and not be harmed at all, because it's so small and light. The material is not at all stressed.

Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck

Quote from: Junkyard on July 28, 2007, 07:53:31 PM
Past a certain size, bones would shatter under their weight, guts would spill out through skin too thin to hold them, and blood would pool in the legs.

Again, that's assuming that the bones and skin wouldn't be naturally thicker because of the size of the animal....and that the blood would pool because the circulatory system woudn't be strong enough....like Glen's heart not growing in proportionaltly to the rest of him in The Amazing Colossal Man.

I'm not talking about something being one size and then growing....I'm talking about something/someone born to be gigantic and therefore everything in it's system would be the right size for it.

I mean, look at alligators and crocs....they're tiny when they're born but they grow into comparatively huge animals.  There skin and bones couldn't be as thick at the start of their lives than when they reach adulthood.  But they don't suddenly die the minute they mature because their bodies collapse onto themselves.

And this was brought up (among other places) on an episode of MST3k.....Joel and the Bots discussing how Issac Asimov made that argument about King Kong collapsing under his own weight along with no one being able to hear The Incredibly Shrinking Man because his vocal cords wouid be too small....

Only argument that made sense to me was the Invisble Man being blind because light wouldn't refract on his corneas ....it would go straight through.

Junkyard

Hmmm... Those are interesting points, but I do believe the material itself might pose problems. Overall, I don't think you could have a sucsessful enlargment without a few key distortions. Thicker contact points, more balanced head, and probably a second heart.

One thing that killed me while watching Collossal Man- His HEART? The heart can heal. The heart could even, concievably, grow. But what about the brain? The brain, which can't heal, and stops growing extremely early on? WOuldn't a dispropotioned BRAIN make someone go crazy? It just seemed unnnessesarily bad scifi science.

Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck

Quote from: Junkyard on July 29, 2007, 05:04:50 AM
One thing that killed me while watching Collossal Man- His HEART? The heart can heal. The heart could even, concievably, grow. But what about the brain? The brain, which can't heal, and stops growing extremely early on? WOuldn't a dispropotioned BRAIN make someone go crazy? It just seemed unnnessesarily bad scifi science.

Well, we knew we were in trouble in that movie when they said that the "heart is made up of one cell".  WTF?

And as far as the brain repairing itself...depends on the damage.  Since we use such a small percentage, the brain can sometime route around certain injuries.  There are even people who have mini-strokes who don't realize it and  "recover" on their own because the brain deals with it....and it's only found out later when something more serious happens.

Junkyard

It's flexible in terms of creating new pathways, (amazingly so at times,) but you get a cut on the brain, it's not going to heal itself up.

Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck

Quote from: Junkyard on July 29, 2007, 06:41:58 AM
It's flexible in terms of creating new pathways, (amazingly so at times,) but you get a cut on the brain, it's not going to heal itself up.

Exactly.  But these concussion bombs being used against our troops in Iraq proves you can do a lot of damage to a human brain without leaving a mark on the outside of a person.  The brain gets jerked around inside your head...only liquid cushioning it....it receives trauma....

But I'm hijacking another thread.  Sorry.   :)

gbeenie

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- Conan O'Brien

kastofsna

wow, i've read this whole thread and can't believe this cliche hasn't been mentioned yet:

the creepy little quiet outcast kid actually has amazing powers. usually done with his/her mind.

Junkyard


Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck

I think that's only been a cliche since "Carrie" was written.   :)

call_me_nuveena

Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on August 01, 2007, 06:44:53 AM
I think that's only been a cliche since "Carrie" was written.   :)

Ever seen The Bad Seed?  Or the Twilight Zone episode with the little jerk who banishes people to the corn field?

This is a well-established cliche, and I'm sorry I didn't think to mention it myself. *hangs head*


Junkyard

Is that what that episode was called? I keep calling it "The Corn Field."

call_me_nuveena

Quote from: Junkyard on August 01, 2007, 02:31:01 PM
Is that what that episode was called? I keep calling it "The Corn Field."

No, The Bad Seed is a play/film.  The episode of The Twilight Zone that features the kid who banishes people to the corn field is called "It's a Good Life."

call_me_nuveena

Although, come to think of it, the little girl in The Bad Seed didn't have evil powers.  Never mind.