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Quote from: Shodan一心流 on January 06, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
so who do you think will play picard in the inevitable tng movie reboot?

When we're talking reboots of any kind, for the next ten years, the immediate answer to Who Should Play the Lead Character? is always going to be Hugh Jackman.  Always.  TNG = Hugh Jackman.  Tomb Raider = Hugh Jackman.  James Bond = Hugh Jackman.  He-Man = Hugh Jackman.  Dirty Dancing = Hugh Jackman.  Indiana Jones = Hugh Jackman.  Erin Brockovich = Hugh Jackman.  Etc. and so on and so forth and ampersand and ampersand.

Hugh Jackman IS Shaft! John Shaft!

I would watch that. 
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Jito463

As far as issues with the last Star Trek movie go, I had several.  oddly enough, the villain wasn't one of them.  However, Spock and Uhura making out in an elevator?  Kirk going from cadet straight to Captain on his first assignment?  Beaming across the galaxy onto a moving ship?  So many inconsistencies that cannot be explained away by an altered timeline.  I had no problems with creating an alternate timeline for the story to progress on it's own.  I had no issues with them remaking the series, but there are certain things that should never be changed.  After all (going back to my first point), one of the primary impulses that drive Spock (if you could call it that, for a Vulcan), is his attempts to suppress any trace of his humanity.  Making kissy-face with Uhura doesn't qualify as suppressing his humanity.  It completely changes his character.  Of course, it didn't help that all I could see was Sylar, instead of Spock.

Sideswipe

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shodan

Quote from: Jito463 on January 23, 2012, 06:24:45 AM
As far as issues with the last Star Trek movie go, I had several.  oddly enough, the villain wasn't one of them.  However, Spock and Uhura making out in an elevator?  Kirk going from cadet straight to Captain on his first assignment?  Beaming across the galaxy onto a moving ship?  So many inconsistencies that cannot be explained away by an altered timeline.  I had no problems with creating an alternate timeline for the story to progress on it's own.  I had no issues with them remaking the series, but there are certain things that should never be changed.  After all (going back to my first point), one of the primary impulses that drive Spock (if you could call it that, for a Vulcan), is his attempts to suppress any trace of his humanity.  Making kissy-face with Uhura doesn't qualify as suppressing his humanity.  It completely changes his character.  Of course, it didn't help that all I could see was Sylar, instead of Spock.
ill give you the transporting across a large space while the ship is at warp speed., but the other two are explainable. this spock has become more emotionally unstable than the original spock, getting more in touch with his human side, hence the make out session. i dont like it, but thats the movie, as for the other one, there are numerous instances of a lower rank gaining the captaincy after the debilitation of a former captain if that person acts meritoriously and goes above and beyond the call of duty in the Star trek universe. and Kirk was going to a special section of starfleet academy in the first place for a command position.

daltysmilth

You're right about the transporter!  There's no way that imaginary technology would work that way!  And making things work in ways they were never designed to work is completely inconsistent with the original Star Trek.
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Quote from: daltysmilth on January 23, 2012, 08:21:52 AM
You're right about the transporter!  There's no way that imaginary technology would work that way!  And making things work in ways they were never designed to work is completely inconsistent with the original Star Trek.
they explain it in the movie as an equation would allow them to transport to the ship, but the inconsistency lies in the fact that during kirk's era, transporter tech was still fairly new. even in the TNG and DS9 eras, transporting over so large a distance would degrade the image too much. so the ship must have been fairly close in warp still.

daltysmilth

Yeah but hadn't they started transporting live subjects in Enterprise?  Which was, what, 80 years beforehand?
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Quote from: daltysmilth on January 23, 2012, 08:58:31 AM
Yeah but hadn't they started transporting live subjects in Enterprise?  Which was, what, 80 years beforehand?

Yeah and in TNG and DS9 They transport at warp speed all the time. In those two series they do say that it is harder then a normal transport but it is the Spock from that timeline who sets it up and just like in those series it doesn't work perfectly so I don't have a problem with it.
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Quote from: daltysmilth on January 23, 2012, 08:58:31 AM
Yeah but hadn't they started transporting live subjects in Enterprise?  Which was, what, 80 years beforehand?
yes but they were still working the kinks out of it. and transporting at warp, i have no problem with, it's the distance that makes me wonder how they did it.

Smith Dr John Smith

Quote from: Shodan一心流 on January 23, 2012, 10:46:07 AM
Quote from: daltysmilth on January 23, 2012, 08:58:31 AM
Yeah but hadn't they started transporting live subjects in Enterprise?  Which was, what, 80 years beforehand?
yes but they were still working the kinks out of it. and transporting at warp, i have no problem with, it's the distance that makes me wonder how they did it.

Yeah i guess but if the choice is between what we got and spending a half hour of screen time showing them catching up with the Enterprise I will go with what we got.
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I am quite pleased with the new cast thus far. But as history has shown us... cast is hardly anything. Peter Weller was in the 5th Season of Dexter and he didn't help that show much at all. Of course, Peter Weller was also in a couple episodes of the last season of Enterprise... and I don't know if that's good or bad. But I really like that they've hired the REAL Sherlock Holmes to be who knows who in the movie. If he's the villain... damn I expect one hell of a son of a bitch of a performance.

I doubt it will be about Khan at this point... unless they're keeping things really well hidden about the cast. I think like the last movie they need to keep the fanbase excited and interested yet keep the mainstream audience happy too. It's a shame that when you try to please a mainstream audience that you normally end up pissing off the fanbase. Seems like everybody in the Trek fanbase hates new Trek except me and maybe a couple hundred other people. 

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Smith Dr John Smith

Quote from: Gunflyer on January 23, 2012, 01:18:12 PM
I am quite pleased with the new cast thus far. But as history has shown us... cast is hardly anything. Peter Weller was in the 5th Season of Dexter and he didn't help that show much at all. Of course, Peter Weller was also in a couple episodes of the last season of Enterprise... and I don't know if that's good or bad. But I really like that they've hired the REAL Sherlock Holmes to be who knows who in the movie. If he's the villain... damn I expect one hell of a son of a bitch of a performance.

I doubt it will be about Khan at this point... unless they're keeping things really well hidden about the cast. I think like the last movie they need to keep the fanbase excited and interested yet keep the mainstream audience happy too. It's a shame that when you try to please a mainstream audience that you normally end up pissing off the fanbase. Seems like everybody in the Trek fanbase hates new Trek except me and maybe a couple hundred other people. 

Count me as another person who loved the new movie.  Except for the scene in the bar.  It looked to much like a modern day bar for my taste,to me it didn't look like it belonged in the Star Trek universe.
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Quote from: Smith Dr John Smith on January 23, 2012, 02:47:56 PM
Quote from: Gunflyer on January 23, 2012, 01:18:12 PM
I am quite pleased with the new cast thus far. But as history has shown us... cast is hardly anything. Peter Weller was in the 5th Season of Dexter and he didn't help that show much at all. Of course, Peter Weller was also in a couple episodes of the last season of Enterprise... and I don't know if that's good or bad. But I really like that they've hired the REAL Sherlock Holmes to be who knows who in the movie. If he's the villain... damn I expect one hell of a son of a bitch of a performance.

I doubt it will be about Khan at this point... unless they're keeping things really well hidden about the cast. I think like the last movie they need to keep the fanbase excited and interested yet keep the mainstream audience happy too. It's a shame that when you try to please a mainstream audience that you normally end up pissing off the fanbase. Seems like everybody in the Trek fanbase hates new Trek except me and maybe a couple hundred other people. 

Count me as another person who loved the new movie.  Except for the scene in the bar.  It looked to much like a modern day bar for my taste,to me it didn't look like it belonged in the Star Trek universe.
loved the movie as well

anais.jude

I also loved Chris Pine Shirtless this fine Trek film