Favorite Documentary?

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

Not if it's not real. That's the point: if the car gets its charge from a power plant burning coal, then it is in no way "emissionless."

i guess it would depend on what type of grid your already getting your power from

I don't disagree. But until the cost DOES come down, they're not going to become as ubiquitous in anywhere NEAR the numbers their proponents would like.

I wonder if there is culminitve effect that they havent factored in.  Like maybe thousands of people are buying these things and the overall effect is reducing the demand for oil (or could potentially) and thus reduce oil prices.  i am not saying this is has happened i am just saying maybe that hasnt been thought about yet.

[Compound]

You know, the electric cars in Car Wars could go 200 miles on a full charge. Less if they were shooting any lasers.

Back on topic...
I'd recommend "9/11". It's a documentary done by a pair of French brothers who were filming a documentary about what it takes to become a rookie firefighter in New York City back in 2001. One of the brothers ends up accompanying the first rescue crews to reach the WTC, and films the aftermath of the first plane strike, the second plane strike and the South Tower's collapse from inside the North Tower. It's pretty sobering.

[Bob]

Well, in an attempt to steer this stread back into the garage.....

American Pimp:   Oh my lord.......... it must be seen to be believed.
The Smartest Men in the Room:   About Enron, and I know everyone is tired of Enron, but this is great stuff.

Fake documentaries:

Fear of a Black Hat:   Hilarious fake documentary about a black rap group....... just brilliant and I am sure everyone will laugh their heads off.

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

FEAR OF A BLACK HAT LOL

I have that on dvd, and i hate rap.  that movie is hilarious

Casue when you take that bus, ... ...  you get there

By the way i REALLY am from the valley of simi. 

you know, see you in the valley ice you in an alley.  SEE ME the valley of simi. 

It was where they had the first rodney king trial.  And to defend my poor town, the damned jury was from LA and not residents of Simi. 

[Bob]

FEAR OF A BLACK HAT LOL

I have that on dvd, and i hate rap.  that movie is hilarious

Casue when you take that bus, ... ...  you get there

By the way i REALLY am from the valley of simi. 

you know, see you in the valley ice you in an alley.  SEE ME the valley of simi. 

It was where they had the first rodney king trial.  And to defend my poor town, the damned jury was from LA and not residents of Simi. 

Booty Juice...... that is all.

[MrTorso]

A friend of mine cut the trailer for Fear of A Black Hat. He gave me a copy of the flick months before it came out. I loved it. I had it on LD and now DVD. In fact I was just talking about it today at work with a coworker. Great stuff.

The documentary I have been wanting to see is Devil's Playground about the Amish rite of passage Rumspringa. It is supposed to be fascinating. I also want to see the film Double Dare about the stuntwomen Zoe Bell and Jeannie Epper. Epper did stunts for Lynda Carter on the old Wonder Woman show and Bell did stunts for Lucy Lawless on Xena and Uma Thurman in Kill Bill. I saw a trailer for it once and it looked like fun.

[Variety of Cells]

Not if it's not real. That's the point: if the car gets its charge from a power plant burning coal, then it is in no way "emissionless."

they do address it in the documentary.  That was something that was brought up and helped kill the electric car.  But it's not entirely true.

It is true that more emphasis would shift over to electricity which is generated by coal.  But It's a lot easier to regulate and control emissions from power plants then the huge amounts of various cars all over the world.  In the documentary they also quoted other esitmates that concluded there would still be a benefit from switching to electric cars, even though the demand for electricity would go up.  But you are right, they are still technically not emitionless.

What further helps is alternate sources of energy such as wind.  I'm not a big fan of nuclear power, but that is also another option.   The electric car is not the solution to all of our problems, but it was a big step in the right direction. 

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

i just dont think it was the right step.

[Variety of Cells]

i just dont think it was the right step.

Why not?

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

I think we can change the infastructure of cars and fuel faster than we can change the infastructure of the power grid.  I also think the recharge time on an electric car is just too damned annoying.  I would prefer an agricultural solution.  thats y i asked about ethanol. 

[Variety of Cells]

I think we can change the infastructure of cars and fuel faster than we can change the infastructure of the power grid.  I also think the recharge time on an electric car is just too damned annoying.  I would prefer an agricultural solution.  thats y i asked about ethanol. 

I don't know much about ethanol, but I don't like farming.  Especially if it mean doing more of it.  But that's a whole other debate.

And you're right, we can change cars faster than the power grid.  But I don't see any reason not to offer electric cars.  It would help us not rely on oil so much.  And like i mentioned before, even though there would be a boost in the use of coal, there would still be a decrease in overall emissions. 

A fully electric car probably isn't right for you if you don't want to have to wait an hour at a station (or more likely at some where nearby the station, like a restaurant) but I don't think that's grounds to call it a wrong step.

[mrbasehart]

A fully electric car probably isn't right for you if you don't want to have to wait an hour at a station (or more likely at some where nearby the station, like a restaurant) but I don't think that's grounds to call it a wrong step.

The thing is, I can see stations popping up everywhere to accomodate.  You could probably charge your car up at work.

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

the closest i ever saw was a station at a mall.  that was it.  One, and it was a damned big mall.  Its gone now.

[Variety of Cells]

the closest i ever saw was a station at a mall.  that was it.  One, and it was a damned big mall.  Its gone now.

Compared to the number of electric cars available, that makes sense.  With more cars, there would be more stations.

Mrbasehart also has a point.  It would be simple for businesses and other places to set up little outlets.  Kinda like ATMs and vending machines.  It's just another way for stores to get some money.

[BBQ Platypus]

As I understand it, the thing they don't tell the audience in that movie is the REAL reason the electric car is currently not a commercially viable option: it doesn't cut down on pollution, at least not in the U.S. Why? Because a HUGE percentage of our electric power is still generated by burning coal, which pollutes much more than gasoline-powered internal combustion. Why so many coal-powered plants still around in the beginning of the twenty-first century? That's REAL simple: radical "environmentalists" have all but eviscerated the American nuclear power industry.

With nuclear power, rechargeable electric cars are a great, economical, clean form of transportation. With our current coal-powered grid, they're an expensive feel-good status toy for people who want to believe they're "doing the right thing," in complete disregard of all evidence to the contrary.

Exactly.  And solar/wind power plants won't really help, either - they need "backburners" to provide energy during periods of low power production (which are extremely frequent in those kinds of plants).  Thanks to the "environmentalist" lobby, these backburner plants are almost always coal power plants.  Thanks for nothing, worthless hippies.

So every time a Sierra Club member starts preaching at you, telling you how much harm you're doing Mother Earth, console yourself with the truth: environmentalists have done far more damage than any average citizen could hope to do in a lifetime of driving.