Future Classics

[daltysmilth]

Modern classics from my most recent top ten of all time list
8. Dark City

here's my dark horse candidate:
-world trade center.  why, you ask? people will watch this 10,20,30 years from now to see what is good about the human race, especially during a national tragedy.

Yes, stylized melodramatic turds about national tragedies that turn the pain of the American people into profit for huge multinational entertainment conglomerates definitely deserve a place in history... for no other reason than to illustrate America's gross fascination with suffering, loss, and watching any movie with Nicolas Cage's name attached to it.

Idiocracy, here we come!

Well, you could say similar things about Casablanca.  But I don't think America as a country is any less intelligent for considering that a classic.

[Tarantulas]

Modern classics from my most recent top ten of all time list
8. Dark City

here's my dark horse candidate:
-world trade center.  why, you ask? people will watch this 10,20,30 years from now to see what is good about the human race, especially during a national tragedy.

Yes, stylized melodramatic turds about national tragedies that turn the pain of the American people into profit for huge multinational entertainment conglomerates definitely deserve a place in history... for no other reason than to illustrate America's gross fascination with suffering, loss, and watching any movie with Nicolas Cage's name attached to it.

Idiocracy, here we come!

Well, you could say similar things about Casablanca.  But I don't think America as a country is any less intelligent for considering that a classic.

Casablanca was not sold to the American popcorn eating public as a "watch this movie and understand what happened" movie.  World Trade Center / Flight 93 / (there is another one who's name escapes me current) did.

In reality it was "understand what happened through our overly dramatic filter because you already watched what really happened on CNN, but we couldn't make money off that, so please except this substitute for the facts."

The very people that lined up in mass to watch this abortion of good taste are the same people that at the exit interviews hosted by independent research companies claimed to have not watched any documentaries on the subject.  A percentage even admitted to being annoyed that their favorite TV programs where interrupted by the additional TV coverage.

It makes me wonder how well a theatrically released documentary about 9/11 would do.. not well likely since it would probably lack the star power to bring in the 15 - 30 crowd.

[Pak-Man]

By that logic, shouldn't Pearl Harbor be a classic?

[Tarantulas]

By that logic, shouldn't Pearl Harbor be a classic?

It is truly a testament to shitty film making.

Pearl Harbor was very inaccurate and the historians let the public know it.

If you are going to take liberties with the facts of the historic event you are portraying, at least modify your title to let people know..

Example: 

Ang Lee's Civil War

or

Uwe Boll's - The BM I Took At Lunch Today

[Compound]

Let me name a pair that I haven't seen mentioned yet:

The Shawshank Redemption
and
Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?

I frequent a good number of forums, and these two films get mentioned over and over in various "Favorite movie"  threads. And these forums have little to nothing in common (other than my reading them) which leads me to suspect that there's a fairly strong well of support for these films among the American public. And I'll admit that more often than not, when I'm channel surfing and come across "Shawshank", I stop and watch more often than not. (Oh Brother I'm not quite as fond of.)

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

The Shawshank Redemption
and
Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?

there we go, those are both great.

pearl harbor by the way is a classic.  the old one.  not the crappy new romancy one, but the boring one that plays like a documentary without narratization (spelling?).  Or is it called tora tora tora, i forget.  Could be either, i know both movies exist. 

spidey did u watch world trade center?  just out of curiosity? 

[Famous Mortimer]

Anchorman
The more I think about this, the more I think how damn good it is. No comedy of the last decade has really come close to it for me, and it's more deserving of classic status than great comedies of past decades (Blazing Saddles, Ghostbusters, it's even on a par for me with "Some Like It Hot"). I may be in a minority, but I hope time proves me right.

Pulp Fiction
Kinda in the goes-without-saying section. I hope.

Clerks
Because it's, in my humble opinion, the funniest film ever made. And it represents perfectly the rising wave of indie cinema in the mid-90s. None of Kevin Smith's other films deserve a spot, though.

12 Monkeys
No film ever caused more debate on the way home from the cinema than this one did. It was fascinating, beautifully made, perfectly paced and plotted, and a career-best performance from Bruce Willis. It had interesting things to say about the world, and is Terry Gilliam's best-realised film by a mile.

But all this could be for naught. We live in a world where a channel in the UK can describe "Slumber Party Massacre" as an 1980s classic.
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[Andrew1911]

Anchorman
The more I think about this, the more I think how damn good it is. No comedy of the last decade has really come close to it for me, and it's more deserving of classic status than great comedies of past decades (Blazing Saddles, Ghostbusters, it's even on a par for me with "Some Like It Hot"). I may be in a minority, but I hope time proves me right.

Pulp Fiction
Kinda in the goes-without-saying section. I hope.

Clerks
Because it's, in my humble opinion, the funniest film ever made. And it represents perfectly the rising wave of indie cinema in the mid-90s. None of Kevin Smith's other films deserve a spot, though.

12 Monkeys
No film ever caused more debate on the way home from the cinema than this one did. It was fascinating, beautifully made, perfectly paced and plotted, and a career-best performance from Bruce Willis. It had interesting things to say about the world, and is Terry Gilliam's best-realised film by a mile.

But all this could be for naught. We live in a world where a channel in the UK can describe "Slumber Party Massacre" as an 1980s classic.
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Clerks has not aged well and it's not as good as his best film, Chasing Amy. 12 Monkeys is not close to touching Brazil. At all. Still, 12 Monkeys is a great film and I could see it becoming a classic. Also, there are rumors of a Criterion release of it! *Squeals*

[Variety of Cells]

It's not as good as Tideland either, but if that becomes a classic then I'll be dead and in some sort of afterlife.

[Andrew1911]

It's not as good as Tideland either, but if that becomes a classic then I'll be dead and in some sort of afterlife.

Did you just call Brazil crap?

[Variety of Cells]

Brazil was my favorite film until Tideland came out.  So no, I don't exactly think it's crap.  What I meant to say is that Tideland is better than 12 monkeys, in my opinion, but Tideland will never become a classic, despite however much I want it to.  Though I can see 12 monkeys gaining a lot of respect by the masses.

[Andrew1911]

Brazil was my favorite film until Tideland came out.  So no, I don't exactly think it's crap.  What I meant to say is that Tideland is better than 12 monkeys, in my opinion, but Tideland will never become a classic, despite however much I want it to.  Though I can see 12 monkeys gaining a lot of respect by the masses.

I've heard a lot of bad things about Tideland. This is the second good thing I've heard of it. Hopefully, it's misunderstood like A Scanner Darkly is. How the fuck the critics missed the ball for that one, I will never know.

[JonnyFrag]

Forrest Gump is a modern classic, in the vein of Wizard of Oz, Gone with the Wind etc...
The Toy Story movies are as well. (both of them, like Godfather 1 and 2)
Saving Private Ryan may be as well. Titanic, probably.
World Trade Center, no. The 9/11 hasn't been made yet. One will one day, and we will all go 'yeah, this is the one.'


Stuff like Dark City and even Memento will at best end up as cult classics. Don't get me wrong, I always prefer to watch a cult classic over a 'mainstream' classic any day. But classic films are the ones that : everyone has seen and everyone (mostly) has liked.
12 Monkeys , I think already is a full fledged cult classic. Brazil certainly is. Gilliam certainly has a knack for them. He's directed or been involved with many.

[sarcasm_made_Easy]

Forrest Gump is a modern classic, in the vein of Wizard of Oz, Gone with the Wind etc...
The Toy Story movies are as well. (both of them, like Godfather 1 and 2)
Saving Private Ryan may be as well. Titanic, probably.
World Trade Center, no. The 9/11 hasn't been made yet. One will one day, and we will all go 'yeah, this is the one.'


Stuff like Dark City and even Memento will at best end up as cult classics. Don't get me wrong, I always prefer to watch a cult classic over a 'mainstream' classic any day. But classic films are the ones that : everyone has seen and everyone (mostly) has liked.
12 Monkeys , I think already is a full fledged cult classic. Brazil certainly is. Gilliam certainly has a knack for them. He's directed or been involved with many. 

Good post i agree, i dont know how i forgot about forest gump but your right.  I watched that a few weeks ago, that movie holds up really really well. 

[Andrew1911]

Forrest Gump is a modern classic, in the vein of Wizard of Oz, Gone with the Wind etc...
The Toy Story movies are as well. (both of them, like Godfather 1 and 2)
Saving Private Ryan may be as well. Titanic, probably.
World Trade Center, no. The 9/11 hasn't been made yet. One will one day, and we will all go 'yeah, this is the one.'


Stuff like Dark City and even Memento will at best end up as cult classics. Don't get me wrong, I always prefer to watch a cult classic over a 'mainstream' classic any day. But classic films are the ones that : everyone has seen and everyone (mostly) has liked.
12 Monkeys , I think already is a full fledged cult classic. Brazil certainly is. Gilliam certainly has a knack for them. He's directed or been involved with many.

... That's not what a classic is. At all. Also, United 93 is the 9/11 movie. Go see it.