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Started by Piobman, December 30, 2008, 11:27:53 AM

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Piobman

Quote from: Imrahil on January 20, 2009, 10:27:34 PM
Quote from: Piobman on January 20, 2009, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: TheUnabeefer on January 20, 2009, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: Imrahil on January 20, 2009, 06:09:29 AM
Anyone watch any of those fan edits?

I have fan edits of the prequels.... Aside from the riffs, those are the only versions I watch.

I have an EP 3 fan edit that improves the film immensely. Really good stuff.

Quote from: TheUnabeefer on January 20, 2009, 10:10:59 PM

I have fan edits of the prequels.... Aside from the riffs, those are the only versions I watch.

Do they look good, quality-wise? Anamorphic? Do you watch them on DVD or computer?

They are just as good as the bought dvd versions. No difference in quality or sound. Anamorphic... 5.1... and all that jazz.

bratpop

Quote from: Doctor Who? on January 20, 2009, 09:06:26 PM
First off art has always belonged to the people that view it
Opinion.

Quoteif art was changed every year there would be no such thing as art it would just be tech.
No, it would still be art. The "tech" of how you do art is irrelevant. A paintbrush is no better than a computer.

QuoteAlso one of the main reasons Star Wars made money was because of the SFX,Lucass had nothing to do with those but after other people made him rich he is just tossing it to curbs and doing nothing but giving interviews saying how awful the work of otther people that made HIM rich is.
Not true. The same group of people did all the effects and they got to put food on the table because of those movies. Changing the shots that nobody had enough money to make look good doesn't invalidate all the other work.

QuoteAlso he is basicly calling all of us stupid for watch the non CGI movies all these years.
Not true.

QuoteAlso Lucass' changes are not just to SFX they are major changes to the story that make it and the character stupid
Not true.

Quotebratpop you only seem to come on here to insault people and make death threats
Extremely not true. But you definately make it difficult, Doctor.

The sad thing is, if you compared both versions side by side, you'd have to admit most of the original shots look crappy. Ignorance is bliss.

bratpop

Yeah, ignore the guy who doesn't hate someone they don't know. He's ruining our hate-fun.

Ortega

Overall, i'd rather watch the Special Editions for the restored image transfer.  Witht the exceptions of a few scenes, its not exactly "blasphemy"
Making Greedo shoot first was kinda stupid, but personally it dosen't detract from Han's character arc.  Besides, his character didn't really start to flesh itself out until Empire anyway.  And the Jabba scene in ANH was rather pointless, seeeing as we had all this information relayed to us in the forementioned Greedo scene, plus the completely pointless shot of Boba did nothing to the overall film.  But those additions aside, i'd much rather watch THAT version then a version that's non-anamorphic, with sub-standard sound and a rather shoddy transfer.  The main vibe i get is that the fans seem to think that these movie were theirs, and no longer Lucas's.  They were always his, and he restored them to his vision, however infantile that vision may be. 

Check this site out for a frame for fram comparison of all the changes in the OT SW trilogy

http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-one.html

Piobman

Quote from: Imrahil on January 21, 2009, 06:42:47 PM
Some of the music cuts bother me in the SE--the trip into Mos Eisley to accomodate the new effects uses music from the Trash Compactor sequence, if memory serves.  I agree it looks nice, but I think a lot of the stuff is kinda unnecessary, and a bit of a nostalgia-killer.  So I'd rather see the originals cleaned up and with a nice transfer, untouched. 



I agree completely. It was nice seeing things cleaned up... it just seems like the pacing of the movie has issues with the remastered version. The extra stuff really was not needed. I really didn't see it adding anything to the movie. The other problem is the extra little creatures doing stupid crap in the background that he adds. It really kills the mood of the movie to see a jawa dangling and screaming in the background. It's just excessive and unneeded. Lucas crossed the line from something being quirky-fun to groan-stupid at times.

bratpop

Man, I wouldn't want to be Lucas for all the money in the world.

Gifthorse. That's all I'm going to say from now on regarding Lucas-hate. GIFT-FUCKING-HORSE. The only thing actually removed from the trilogy was a few seconds of guards in the Death Star getting blasts to the chest. Everything else was a very generous, expensive addition.

And you really want Lucas to make an Unspecial Edition for all the fans who swear blind that they will never buy anything from Lucas ever again? He'd have to be as retarded as you say!

Piobman

Quote from: bratpop on January 21, 2009, 11:52:07 PM
Man, I wouldn't want to be Lucas for all the money in the world.

Gifthorse. That's all I'm going to say from now on regarding Lucas-hate. GIFT-FUCKING-HORSE. The only thing actually removed from the trilogy was a few seconds of guards in the Death Star getting blasts to the chest. Everything else was a very generous, expensive addition.

And you really want Lucas to make an Unspecial Edition for all the fans who swear blind that they will never buy anything from Lucas ever again? He'd have to be as retarded as you say!

I wouldn't mind being Lucas. Then I could make a million dollars off of a movie consisting of nothing but digitally enhanced farts... and they'd consider me a genius.

You just wait bratpop, one day after the star wars funds starts to run dry, Lucas will re-release the old movies in anamorphic widescreen and call it the "Classic Remastered Edition". I think you are underestimating the power that Lucas has in milking something for every penny it is worth. He's not so much a gifthorse, as he is more of a good salesman. Who else could make so many of us waste our money on the same movie for such a long time and still make us want more.  It's all an evil plan. Give us something we would almost be 100% happy with so that we will buy the next "improvement" he creates. Pure Genius.

bratpop

Okay wiseguy, if he's such a genius, why did he make the prequels? He probably couldn't even sell the Phantom Edit.

Piobman

Check this out http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=starwars.htm

Apparently he has amassed $924,317,558 worldwide on the phantom edit. Pretty good for a jar-binks movie. Episode 2 made $649,398,328 and episode 3 made $848,999,005. So Episode 1 was in fact the movie that made the most of the three. 

To add to this... the original star wars has made $775,398,007 in its lifetime. The proof is in the pudding.

Pak-Man

Quote from: bratpop on January 21, 2009, 11:52:07 PM
The only thing actually removed from the trilogy was a few seconds of guards in the Death Star getting blasts to the chest. Everything else was a very generous, expensive addition.

Not quite true. I'm actually on your side on this one, and I rather enjoyed the Special Editions too, and even enjoyed me some Prequel (Though I've learned not to speak up about it much in these parts.) but there WERE 2 significant and somewhat lamentable things removed from the trilogy: Lapti Nek and Yub Nub.  They were 2 of my favorite examples of the Star Wars take on alien music. I see WHY he replaced the Ewok Celebration with a galaxy-wide montage, and I GUESS I see why he wanted to add a little something to the dance in Jabba's palace, but those two songs are unfortunate victims.

I DID enjoy the cleaned-up X-Wings, the establishing shot of Mos Eisley, the extra Wampa footage, and the new Death Star explosions, though. :^)

Ortega

How's about you guys continue this discussion here

http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php/topic,12596.0.html

This IS a cover thread after all......

gammer


Piobman


Ortega

Here's mine for ThinPak:



Click the preview for the Full-Res version.

Full Face Label

Updated earlier post as well, what with the 4 damn pages of "Lucas bitching".

TheUnabeefer

...and there he was, reigning supreme at number two.  The One... The Only... The Unabeefer.