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Offline darthvedder81

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"V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« on: October 31, 2006, 09:34:31 AM »
It's just the kind of movie Mike hates: amoral, pretentious, ultra-violent, overrated and full of creepy and/or disturbing scenes.

The scene with Natalie Portman in the schoolgirl dress with the lecherous priest is offensive to Catholics (not to mention agnostics, atheiests, buddhists, muslims and sentient beings everywhere).


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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2006, 09:45:06 AM »
Yeah, we all know priests aren't interested in girls.

Sorry, just couldn't resist.


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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2006, 09:46:39 AM »
I wouldn't be so fast to claim what Mike hates.  He might like it.

I'm not sure what he thinks, but I don't believe it's that violent.  There were only a couple scenes with fighting.  The movie had things in it that were amoral because it was trying to show how amoral the world is and that it needs to change.  It's hard to advocate change if you can't show what needs to be changed.  I'm not sure about pretentious, I always have trouble defining pretentious.  It might be overrated. 

How are agnostics, atheists, Buddhists, Muslims and sentient beings everywhere offended?  This movie wasn't promoting or damning any of them.  It seemed to be more about anarchy.  Anarchists might be offended a little if they don't agree with the film, but it's nothing compared to XXX.  And just because a movie offends people doesn't make it bad, or riffworthy.  If a movie has a message it's going to offended some one, unless the message is that 'puppies are cute'.  Even the message 'blacks are people too' offends the KKK.

But it sounds like you are just trying to stir up some trouble, so I'll end my rebuttal there. 


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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2006, 09:59:35 AM »
Yeah, we all know priests aren't interested in girls.

Sorry, just couldn't resist.

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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2006, 11:23:49 AM »
agreed

I don't know if Mike hates it, but I sure did

"amoral, pretentious, ultra-violent, overrated and full of creepy and/or disturbing scenes"

that's pretty much exactly how I would describe it. The phrase eye-sore comes to mind when I think about this monstrocity
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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2006, 12:00:32 PM »
Yeah, we all know priests aren't interested in girls.

Sorry, just couldn't resist.

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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2006, 12:10:08 PM »
By amoral I don't mean simply the deteriorated society that was shown in the film but the whole message of the movie was basically everything is relative including barbaric terrorist acts against civilians. V was neither "right" or "wrong" at any point in the story. I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate movies like that?moral ambiguity for the sake of moral ambiguity, no thanks.

I'd be willing to bet Mike hated it (if he even saw it). He hates amoral, "important" movies (ala "Crash").


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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2006, 01:01:55 PM »
Well I didn't like crash, and I didn't love V for vendetta, but what's wrong with the message?  Why isn't everything relative?  Our society seems to embrace that. 

Please explain why you don't like moral ambiguity.  I might agree with you, I'm not sure. 


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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2006, 03:20:07 PM »
Well any movie that show people riseing up against a fascist goverment is o.k. with me. Besides the Alan Moore's V for Vendetta is consider one of the best graphic novels of all time with the Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns.


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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2006, 03:23:18 PM »
ultra-violent? seriously?  We obviously watch a lot of different movies.

I don't see 'amoral' as a bad thing, the less movies trying to teach people lessons the better in my opinion.

I thought it was a great movie, slightly too glossy for my liking but still a lot more good than bad but I thoiught Crash was good too.

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The scene with Natalie Portman in the schoolgirl dress with the lecherous priest is offensive to Catholics (not to mention agnostics, atheiests, buddhists, muslims and sentient beings everywhere).

I thought it was funny myself, it's just a movie.
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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2006, 04:47:06 PM »
I thought it was a very good adaptation, except for the very end.

I can totally understand the simplification of the Intrigue and Backstabbing within the government, it's one of the prices you pay when going from a book to a film. I can also understand the change in the end, I think they felt they needed to show 'The People' taking back their country, rather than V becoming a figurehead for new way.  But I feel this loses a bit of the stories idea, that Evie was to be the Creation counterpoint of Anarchy to V's Destruction. And actually kind of makes her superfluous to the entire story.


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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2006, 05:54:24 PM »
I liked "V for Vendetta" too.  Erm...not much more I can add to that.   :)

I did however, watch the movie as a part of a "totalitarian state" movie day.  First it was V for Vendetta, then 1984, then Brazil and the, because I had no other decent movies to accompany them, Running Man.   ;D

Brazil is the best of the lot, though.


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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2006, 07:30:07 PM »
I liked "V for Vendetta" too.  Erm...not much more I can add to that.   :)

I did however, watch the movie as a part of a "totalitarian state" movie day.  First it was V for Vendetta, then 1984, then Brazil and the, because I had no other decent movies to accompany them, Running Man.   ;D

Brazil is the best of the lot, though.

By far, by far. 


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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2006, 07:20:52 AM »
I liked "V for Vendetta" too.  Erm...not much more I can add to that.   :)

I did however, watch the movie as a part of a "totalitarian state" movie day.  First it was V for Vendetta, then 1984, then Brazil and the, because I had no other decent movies to accompany them, Running Man.   ;D

Brazil is the best of the lot, though.

I love doing themed movie marathons like this.  The last time I did one we did all three Mad Max movies.  They're pretty bad, the first one is ok though.
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Re: "V for Vendetta" needs to be riffed
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2006, 07:33:14 AM »
I love doing themed movie marathons like this.  The last time I did one we did all three Mad Max movies.  They're pretty bad, the first one is ok though.

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