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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7860 on: July 05, 2013, 09:51:09 AM »
until the rise of mobile devices, i only ever heard it as part of the phrase "killer app" with regards to computer software (pagemaker represent, yo!), never on its own.
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7861 on: July 05, 2013, 10:03:09 AM »
Regardless the short form of that term is still being used there and indeed when used for mobile apps it still carries the same meaning.

What I'm saying is "program" isn't a more correct term it's actually less precise.


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7862 on: July 05, 2013, 10:13:35 AM »
Applications have interfaces to make their use easier.  Programs are just line after line of code.
Exactly, hence people getting upset with the term "app" puzzle me, in a general sense anything containing code that tells the data device to do something is a program but apps are actually useful to most people in one way or another.


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7863 on: July 05, 2013, 10:42:11 AM »
Eh, I'm just being crotchety in my old age.

"In my day, we called 'em programs! And we loved it!"



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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7864 on: July 05, 2013, 11:09:10 AM »
well, lookit you, mr. BASIC! in my day, we only had opcodes, and we were lucky! none of these fancy command words and compilers. but you try telling the young people of today that, and they won't believe you.
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7865 on: July 05, 2013, 11:16:52 AM »
Which brings us to:



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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7866 on: July 05, 2013, 01:02:28 PM »
Pffff, I've actually used all 3 of these:


And these 12 inch hard disk cartridges that could store a whopping 1MB:



Oh the joys of keeping antiquated computer stuff running 20+ years past it's lifetime.  That's what happens when you rely on donated equipment for your labs.  Thankfully right now we don't have anything needing media that old, but the 8 inch floppies on one instrument were still running up until about 5 years ago (although they weren't absolutely necessary since there was a 3.5 inch floppy drive upgrade installed in the early 90s.

I managed to avoid punch cards and the big reel to reel tape drives, but have used paper tape once, not to load a program but to print out ASCII Snoopy.


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7867 on: July 05, 2013, 01:07:39 PM »
I got to play with all those floppy drives but never that IBM frisbee :o


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7868 on: July 05, 2013, 01:44:48 PM »
I heard the short form "app" to mean application long before the prevalence of mobile phones, usually in the phrase "killer app" of which Lotus 1-2-3 was one.
Me too, now that your mention of the phrase "killer app" jogged my memory.


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7869 on: July 05, 2013, 06:16:35 PM »
I got to play with all those floppy drives but never that IBM frisbee :o

Somewhere I still have a box of the read/write heads for that gigantic hard drive, dime sized polished ceramic disks that would float over the surface due to the air from the spinning disk.  The unit was a cube about 2 feet on each side, one permanently installed disk and one removable using those cases in the picture.  Used to have to clean the disk surface once in a while, put the thing into cleaning mode where it would spin up the disk but keep the heads retracted, then you would open up a little door and insert a cleaning thing that looked like a fabric coated tongue depressor that was soaked in alcohol.

Good old Data General Nova 3, 1975 technology we were still using up until the early 90's.  Can't believe I don't have a picture of that thing, closest I could find, top half of the rack we had was the electronics for the Finnigan 4000 mass spectrometer:



Back to random thoughts, funny how now it seems strange not to have a picture of something.  Used to be pretty normal not to have pictures of every single thing around us, a dozen or so years of digital photography really has changed that.


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7870 on: July 06, 2013, 01:57:02 PM »
Mike's right.  Speed 2 is awful.  Really awful.

It begs the question:  Was the script that much worse than the first one, or did Keanu actually make it more watchable?
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7871 on: July 06, 2013, 02:03:26 PM »
The first one has a great premise and Reeves and Bullock have a good rapport.  Dennis Hopper is good as the bad guy, and though it goes *ahem* off the rails in the last 20 minutes, I think it's one of the best action movies of the 90s. 


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7872 on: July 06, 2013, 02:23:55 PM »
Mike's right.  Speed 2 is awful.  Really awful.
One of my favorite quotes from The Simpsons comes from a scene where Otto is driving the kids, and driving like a maniac, but the kids are enjoying it.  Milhouse excitedly says "It's like Speed 2, but on a bus!"


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7873 on: July 07, 2013, 08:53:02 AM »
...and I'll be spending the next couple of days basically alone with myself.

there's always porn.
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #7874 on: July 07, 2013, 09:00:21 AM »
It's what the internet's for after all.