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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6300 on: October 10, 2012, 06:35:42 AM »
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6301 on: October 10, 2012, 07:23:20 AM »
"I could care less" is generally understood to be ironic. Sort of a snarky sarcastic remark. One cares so little that the ONLY positive thing they can say RE: their caring is that there could possibly be less of it. It's similar in tone to, "That's so funny, I forgot to laugh."

"I couldn't care less" is literal and means what it says. It also came first.

The odds are, though, that anyone who uses either phrase hasn't given it much thought and literally couldn't care any less. :^)


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6302 on: October 10, 2012, 07:31:35 AM »
"I could care less" is generally understood to be ironic.
No, it's not.

Unless by "ironic" you mean "a word used to cover the fact that I'm ignorant of correct usage" then yes, sure, it's used ironically. :)

I suspect you're trying to think the best of people there, it's admirable I suppose, but sometimes people genuinely are ignorant, it's perfectly fine to recognize that.
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6303 on: October 10, 2012, 08:50:49 AM »
"I could care less" is generally understood to be ironic.
No, it's not.

Unless by "ironic" you mean "a word used to cover the fact that I'm ignorant of correct usage" then yes, sure, it's used ironically. :)

Granted. "Sarcastic" would have applied better there. It's still early in the morning and I didn't think that one throgh. One bit of pedantry at a time, though. :^)

I suspect you're trying to think the best of people there, it's admirable I suppose, but sometimes people genuinely are ignorant, it's perfectly fine to recognize that.

I don't think it's reaching too far to say that most people, when looking at the words, "I could care less." would recognize that some degree of caring would have to exist for that to be true. It's right there in the phrase. People know what words mean. They aren't often experts at USING them, but it only takes a moment of thought to interpret that phrase. Of course, it's also an idiom, so it often gets used without any thought at all, like I said originally. To me, though, pointing out the meaning of "I could care less" is like telling someone that, no, cats and dogs aren't falling out of the sky outside. You know what they meant, they know what they meant. Very little caring has happened on their part. Communication: successful.

Here's an interesting write-up that suggests that maybe it started as a bit of yiddish sarcasm: http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ico1.htm

EDIT TO ADD: And after posting that I look at the responses to this: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20121008163558AAF1Jny and wonder if maybe people DON'T all know what words mean...
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6304 on: October 10, 2012, 09:09:42 AM »
Pak, you're enabling. The correct usage is "couldn't care less" and you're doing the English language no favors by diluting it with feel-good-everyone-gets-a-prize nonsense.

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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6305 on: October 10, 2012, 09:15:07 AM »
Nope, the phrase "couldn't care less" is also sarcastic, however it is well phrased sarcasm and therefore doesn't undermine itself.

Pak, you're enabling. The correct usage is "couldn't care less" and you're doing the English language no favors by diluting it with feel-good-everyone-gets-a-prize nonsense.

Damn it, we need that like button back.



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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6306 on: October 10, 2012, 09:17:30 AM »
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6307 on: October 10, 2012, 09:20:40 AM »
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6308 on: October 10, 2012, 09:21:36 AM »
I know that's Chow Yun Fat, but is that from the Dragon Ball movie?
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6309 on: October 10, 2012, 09:25:12 AM »
So, the current lack of a Like button does mean that the possiblity of a Dislike option exists:



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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6310 on: October 10, 2012, 09:40:49 AM »
I know that's Chow Yun Fat, but is that from the Dragon Ball movie?

I honestly have no idea. It's one of the many, many gifs I have that are applicable to so many situations and yet I don't know the source.


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6311 on: October 10, 2012, 09:58:08 AM »
Pak, you're enabling. The correct usage is "couldn't care less" and you're doing the English language no favors by diluting it with feel-good-everyone-gets-a-prize nonsense.

Damn it, we need that like button back.

Oh, mark my words. Once my son is talking, if I ever catch him SAYING "El-oh-el," spouting double-negatives, ending his sentences in prepositional phrases or using emoticons on his essay papers, then, so help me, I will disown him. I'm just saying we have to pick our battles. When we're walking down Idiom Road, we're already located firmly in Slang City, and in Slang City they get to do pretty much whatever they want, and I couldn't really care any less. (Or could I?)


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6312 on: October 10, 2012, 10:01:13 AM »
Pak, you're enabling. The correct usage is "couldn't care less" and you're doing the English language no favors by diluting it with feel-good-everyone-gets-a-prize nonsense.

Damn it, we need that like button back.

Oh, mark my words. Once my son is talking, if I ever catch him SAYING "El-oh-el," spouting double-negatives, ending his sentences in prepositional phrases or using emoticons on his essay papers, then, so help me, I will disown him. I'm just saying we have to pick our battles. When we're walking down Idiom Road, we're already located firmly in Slang City, and in Slang City they get to do pretty much whatever they want, and I couldn't really care any less. (Or could I?)



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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6313 on: October 10, 2012, 10:07:50 AM »
Pak, you're enabling. The correct usage is "couldn't care less" and you're doing the English language no favors by diluting it with feel-good-everyone-gets-a-prize nonsense.

Damn it, we need that like button back.

Oh, mark my words. Once my son is talking, if I ever catch him SAYING "El-oh-el," spouting double-negatives, ending his sentences in prepositional phrases or using emoticons on his essay papers, then, so help me, I will disown him. I'm just saying we have to pick our battles. When we're walking down Idiom Road, we're already located firmly in Slang City, and in Slang City they get to do pretty much whatever they want, and I couldn't really care any less. (Or could I?)

Preach it!



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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #6314 on: October 10, 2012, 11:02:09 AM »
I know that's Chow Yun Fat, but is that from the Dragon Ball movie?

Nah, he looks too young there.  I'd say one of the John Woo films from the 80s.