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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19035 on: December 08, 2017, 06:31:51 AM »
When you have to go into a lengthy explanation of the historical context of a song to show that it wasn't promoting dangerous behavior originally, yet it is now, then that song's time has passed.



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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19036 on: December 08, 2017, 06:33:49 AM »
When you have to go into a lengthy explanation of the historical context of a song to show that it wasn't promoting dangerous behavior originally, yet it is now, then that song's time has passed.

so... you're saying it really should go?
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19037 on: December 08, 2017, 07:37:09 AM »
When you have to go into a lengthy explanation of the historical context of a song to show that it wasn't promoting dangerous behavior originally, yet it is now, then that song's time has passed.

so... you're saying it really should go?

But it's cold out there...

People should watch the scene in the 1949 movie Neptune's Daughter with the song and then decide about it.


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19038 on: December 09, 2017, 01:02:03 AM »
3 days isn't enough time to spend with someone you love. Cried the entire way home from the airport and then cried myself to sleep. I'm glad she was here, but damn, it's hard to not have her around. My twin bed feels huge and empty.


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19039 on: December 09, 2017, 07:08:14 AM »
3 days isn't enough time to spend with someone you love. Cried the entire way home from the airport and then cried myself to sleep. I'm glad she was here, but damn, it's hard to not have her around. My twin bed feels huge and empty.

Definitely been there. It’s horrible. Spent my fare share of time crying in airport bathrooms. Eventually it got a little easier. Sorry you had to go through that.


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19040 on: December 09, 2017, 10:35:44 AM »
3 days isn't enough time to spend with someone you love. Cried the entire way home from the airport and then cried myself to sleep. I'm glad she was here, but damn, it's hard to not have her around. My twin bed feels huge and empty.

Definitely been there. It’s horrible. Spent my fare share of time crying in airport bathrooms. Eventually it got a little easier. Sorry you had to go through that.

Oh, I cried most of the way there, the entire time I was there, and most of the way home. Keep expecting her to be in my room when I walk in. Long distance sucks...


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19041 on: December 09, 2017, 10:38:55 AM »
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19042 on: December 10, 2017, 07:28:46 PM »
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19043 on: December 10, 2017, 09:07:29 PM »
I know I'm a couple days late on this one, but I completely disagree that Baby Its Cold Outside could be innocent. It's clearly sexual ("Your lips look delicious"?). And she said "no" multiple times. There is no consent, and he refuses to take "no" for an answer. It is completely inappropriate regardless of #metoo, and just because that behavior was accepted in the past doesn't make it ok now or ever.

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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19044 on: December 10, 2017, 10:27:24 PM »
I know I'm a couple days late on this one, but I completely disagree that Baby Its Cold Outside could be innocent. It's clearly sexual ("Your lips look delicious"?). And she said "no" multiple times. There is no consent, and he refuses to take "no" for an answer. It is completely inappropriate regardless of #metoo, and just because that behavior was accepted in the past doesn't make it ok now or ever.

Let it die.

I was only aware of the lyrics and such posted here, and I'd based what I wrote before just on what little I'd read here, so it wasn't as fully clear the intent of the song.  But your expansion makes it obvious.  Just with her saying "no" multiple times?  Yeah: no question it is inappropriate and should cease being played.  (Except possibly in some historical museum with a clear context of, "this is the kind of ugly shit people used to find entertaining".)
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19045 on: December 10, 2017, 10:47:41 PM »
Well the implication is that she was playing hard-to-get and he was winning her over throughout the course of the song. "At least I'm gonna say that I tried."

And that's something that happens. It's also something that goes horribly wrong when it's not "Hard-to-get."


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19046 on: December 10, 2017, 11:05:10 PM »
These days it certainly doesn't hold up outside of the movie, a musical comedy based on mistaken identity, it that scene Ricardo Montalban does get a little pushy so I'm not sure it even holds up in the movie, when they do the gender flip for the other couple she is even more pushy.

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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19047 on: December 11, 2017, 05:00:57 AM »
I know I'm a couple days late on this one, but I completely disagree that Baby Its Cold Outside could be innocent. It's clearly sexual ("Your lips look delicious"?). And she said "no" multiple times. There is no consent, and he refuses to take "no" for an answer. It is completely inappropriate regardless of #metoo, and just because that behavior was accepted in the past doesn't make it ok now or ever.

Let it die.

She can get up and leave any time she wants.  Just because you pressure someone to do something doesn't mean that you take away their free will.
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19048 on: December 11, 2017, 06:56:26 AM »
I know I'm a couple days late on this one, but I completely disagree that Baby Its Cold Outside could be innocent. It's clearly sexual ("Your lips look delicious"?). And she said "no" multiple times. There is no consent, and he refuses to take "no" for an answer. It is completely inappropriate regardless of #metoo, and just because that behavior was accepted in the past doesn't make it ok now or ever.

Let it die.

She can get up and leave any time she wants.  Just because you pressure someone to do something doesn't mean that you take away their free will.

So it's acceptable to force someone into potentially unsafe situations as long as they have the right to choose which happens? He's pressuring her into intercourse. I know that if I stayed somewhere because the weather sucked, I'd hope not to be propositioned.


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #19049 on: December 11, 2017, 07:01:58 AM »
I know I'm a couple days late on this one, but I completely disagree that Baby Its Cold Outside could be innocent. It's clearly sexual ("Your lips look delicious"?). And she said "no" multiple times. There is no consent, and he refuses to take "no" for an answer. It is completely inappropriate regardless of #metoo, and just because that behavior was accepted in the past doesn't make it ok now or ever.

Let it die.

She can get up and leave any time she wants.  Just because you pressure someone to do something doesn't mean that you take away their free will.

So it's acceptable to force someone into potentially unsafe situations as long as they have the right to choose which happens? He's pressuring her into intercourse. I know that if I stayed somewhere because the weather sucked, I'd hope not to be propositioned.

The movie takes place around a bathing suit photo shoot and polo match in a warm location, she knows it's not cold or snowing outside.
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