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Offline ManosCK

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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2007, 11:44:19 AM »
Well, Uncle Rick had said at the time, when asked why the Guardian of Forever wasn't used, he called it a "cheap plot device." 

Yep, that "cheap plot device" from arguably the most popular episode of the original series, which also won a Hugo award and was penned by one of the greatest SF writers of all time.

His answer: to come up with a cheesy way to do pretty much the same thing, albeit with no "rules."  Because hey, when you're killing off a legend, you may as well ignore all the good stuff that came before (that wasn't created on your watch).

I've purchased the riff, but haven't had the chance to watch it with the film yet.  I can't wait.


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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2007, 04:16:12 PM »
And why can't Soron just fly a ship into the nexus? Yes, Picard points out that ships that do this are destroyed, but isn't that how Soran entered the Nexus originally? By having his ship caught in it?

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I remember thinking to myself "At what point in Soran's career as a mad scientist did blowing up a sun and destroying a handful of planets sound easier than building a very tall ladder?". 


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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2007, 11:45:17 AM »
And while I'm not pro-appeasing star destroying mad scientists you would think it would be much easier to end this when the plan was discovered.  All Picard had to do was say "Hey Soran, no need to destroy the star; I'll give you a shuttle craft!  We go through them like potato chips anyway."



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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2007, 12:26:03 PM »
Also, how much extra work would it have been to direct the ribbon through the habitated planet, so everybody could be happy, instead of dead?


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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2007, 12:29:46 PM »
Well wouldn't That 've just made for the Happiest of endings..
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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2007, 10:29:02 AM »
I didn't read all of the posts in this thread, but I think the most obvious flaw in the plot, given that the Nexus will bring you back to whatever time you want to be, is that Picard goes back to like, five minutes before the universe goes kablowee..... Hell, transport back an hour, three hours -- or even go back several years and assassinate Soran before any of this even happens.......
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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2007, 04:17:30 PM »
I didn't read all of the posts in this thread, but I think the most obvious flaw in the plot, given that the Nexus will bring you back to whatever time you want to be, is that Picard goes back to like, five minutes before the universe goes kablowee..... Hell, transport back an hour, three hours -- or even go back several years and assassinate Soran before any of this even happens.......

Or before his nephew gets killed.   DUH Picard.


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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2007, 06:39:44 PM »
being what a heated debate matters of space and time create, you'd think the writers could have thought of something slightly more logical.
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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2007, 08:16:55 PM »
I didn't read all of the posts in this thread, but I think the most obvious flaw in the plot, given that the Nexus will bring you back to whatever time you want to be, is that Picard goes back to like, five minutes before the universe goes kablowee..... Hell, transport back an hour, three hours -- or even go back several years and assassinate Soran before any of this even happens.......

Or before his nephew gets killed.   DUH Picard.

Or back when he had hair.


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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2007, 08:25:02 PM »
Quote from: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man
Or back when he had hair.

Picard never had hair... Geez~

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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2007, 12:18:26 AM »
Picard never had hair... Geez~
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Actually, Picard did have hair when he was a youngster at Starfleet Academy... see the episode "Tapestry".


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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2007, 05:45:21 AM »
Picard never had hair... Geez~
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Actually, Picard did have hair when he was a youngster at Starfleet Academy... see the episode "Tapestry".

Here he is relaxing with a fellow cadet prior to final exams ;)

Not just hair but a beard as well.


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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2007, 08:36:47 AM »
Quote from: Principal_Skin-trade
Actually, Picard did have hair when he was a youngster at Starfleet Academy... see the episode "Tapestry".
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Not just hair but a beard as well.

Lies, Lies, Lies! I'll never believe you! Picard was always old, distinguished and bald! ALWAYS!

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La, la, la... filthy liars.


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PS- How funny that the episode featuring Picard with hair was called "Tapestry"
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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2007, 08:41:02 AM »
Quote from: Principal_Skin-trade
Actually, Picard did have hair when he was a youngster at Starfleet Academy... see the episode "Tapestry".
PS- How funny that the episode featuring Picard with hair was called "Tapestry"

I think it was originally going to be called Rug


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Re: Nexus Logic
« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2007, 10:37:19 AM »
I think it was originally going to be called Rug
Well in this case, the word "Tapestry" was meant to be used as a metaphor. So calling it "Rug" would have been just plain wrong
because as far as I know, nobody uses the word "Rug" as a metaphor for anything at all, except for maybe the expression, "Hocking
a rugie,", but that is stretching the imagination a little methinks.