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But it's analog!

Yes, but analog is decidedly more BOLD than digital.
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But it's analog!

Yes, but analog is decidedly more BOLD than digital.

....for me to poop on.
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But it's analog!

Yes, but analog is decidedly more BOLD than digital.

....for me to poop on.

...the hell...?
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But it's analog!

Yes, but analog is decidedly more BOLD than digital.

....for me to poop on.

...the hell...?

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Tried making my first DVD following these steps and failed.   :(

I got to step 6, but then...
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Open up DVD Shrink, and click the Open Files button. Find your newly authored files folder, select Video_TS, and click OK.
...There is no Video_TS to select.  I'm not sure if you mean an actual Video_TS file in the output folder (there isn't one, it only made a .VOB file) or some kind of "Video_TS" option in the program (can't find such a thing, and believe me, I've looked!), but neither seems to be an option.

What's more, I decided to play that .VOB file to see how I was coming along, and discovered that:
A) the audio was out of sync.  Not the Riftrax, but the whole audio file... i.e. the characters were lips didn't match what they were saying.
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B) it was in the wrong aspect ratio.  Somewhere along the line this 2.35:1 movie wound up transforming to about 1.85:1.

I painstakingly followed the steps detail-by-detail.  I can't find anyplace I might've gone wrong, but I sure have and can't figure it out after spending all night on it.

I'm a big MST3K, CinTan, & Film Crew fan and always avoided Rifftrax because I was afraid this would happen, and now that I've finally bitten the bullet, it has.  Very frustrating.  Anybody have any ideas on what the problem could be?


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You didn't follow the guide as painstakingly as you think I'd say.  I'd use the Rifftrax Lite guide if you didn't already.
It's really not that hard to reauthor once you figure out what you did wrong.  Trial and error.
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Check the child board for the movie you're working on too.  Sometimes there are posts there that deal with reauthoring that particular movie.


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Tried making my first DVD following these steps and failed.   :(

I got to step 6, but then...
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Open up DVD Shrink, and click the Open Files button. Find your newly authored files folder, select Video_TS, and click OK.
...There is no Video_TS to select.  I'm not sure if you mean an actual Video_TS file in the output folder (there isn't one, it only made a .VOB file) or some kind of "Video_TS" option in the program (can't find such a thing, and believe me, I've looked!), but neither seems to be an option.

What's more, I decided to play that .VOB file to see how I was coming along, and discovered that:
A) the audio was out of sync.  Not the Riftrax, but the whole audio file... i.e. the characters were lips didn't match what they were saying.
and
B) it was in the wrong aspect ratio.  Somewhere along the line this 2.35:1 movie wound up transforming to about 1.85:1.

I painstakingly followed the steps detail-by-detail.  I can't find anyplace I might've gone wrong, but I sure have and can't figure it out after spending all night on it.

I'm a big MST3K, CinTan, & Film Crew fan and always avoided Rifftrax because I was afraid this would happen, and now that I've finally bitten the bullet, it has.  Very frustrating.  Anybody have any ideas on what the problem could be?

The VIDEO_TS folders should be produced by your reauthor program, either Rejig or IFO Edit (depending on which guide you're using).  I've seen Rejig give me that kind of trouble before.  What program are you using?  What movie is it?  That could be important.  I've had a few movies go nuts in Rejig during the creation of the VIDEO_TS folders and the IFO files.

It's also possible that the VIDEO_TS folder was created, but it's not where you're looking.  Some programs will create a VIDEO_TS in a default location that may be separate from where the rest of your files are.  Pay attention to where you're asking it to place the reauthored files.


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Also I'll add that reauthoring is fun to some, as a hobby, but too much of a pain for others, even diehard Rifftrax fans.  I've had some real challenges from movies that would only demultiplex part of the movie in the first phase (X-Men 2, Jaws) to movies that would create only a partial IFO Video_TS file when reauthored (Dark Water, Missile to the Moon) to movies that had some extra copy protection on them (Casino Royale, The Dark Knight) to movies that weren't even available on DVD (Star Wars Holiday Special, The Incredible Hulk Final Round).  They can be frustrating, but it's a great hobby.  If it gets to be to much for you, I reccomend the Rifftrax Player.


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He's right. I like the challenge it poses. For me it's like a puzzle of sorts. Sometimes the pieces just aren't coming together, but I usually figure it out. If you don't dig that brand of frustration, the DVD Player is probably the way to go.

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Ok I a mom with kids and we adore mst3k and I do not have time to figure this all out. We have been mst3k fans since the 90's. We want to do Rifftrax and I am good at computers, am a professional and all that rot, and took an hour to figure it out and had to unzip it instead of using the rifftrax player because that was all mucked up and would not work and it still would never sync and so we wasted our money (3.99). But we loved the short we bought for 99 cents. Per usual it about killed us and made us pee our pants  I will get more of those. Please make it easier to sync this. Again I want to stress how much we love mst3k and do not blame the boys. We are utterly thrilled they are back . They brought us immeasurable joy through the years.


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So no matter how many times you tried to pause the track or the movie it kept going out of sync?  Are you sure you got the right version of the riff for your dvd?  (NTSC for North America or PAL for most everyone else)
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Ok I a mom with kids and we adore mst3k and I do not have time to figure this all out. We have been mst3k fans since the 90's. We want to do Rifftrax and I am good at computers, am a professional and all that rot, and took an hour to figure it out and had to unzip it instead of using the rifftrax player because that was all mucked up and would not work and it still would never sync and so we wasted our money (3.99). But we loved the short we bought for 99 cents. Per usual it about killed us and made us pee our pants  I will get more of those. Please make it easier to sync this. Again I want to stress how much we love mst3k and do not blame the boys. We are utterly thrilled they are back . They brought us immeasurable joy through the years.

You don't HAVE to reauthor the movies at all.  All you have to do is put the dvd in your player, play the .mp3 file on your computer or stereo or whatever you want, listen to the prompts that Mike gives, and then start the movie when they say to. 
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Ok, thanks for the replies, guys... I appreciate any help you guys can offer on setting me straight.

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You didn't follow the guide as painstakingly as you think I'd say.  I'd use the Rifftrax Lite guide if you didn't already.
It's really not that hard to reauthor once you figure out what you did wrong.  Trial and error.
Well, evidently you are correct.  But I mean, I spent many hours reading and re-reading each step, trying each step multiple times, etc.
I tried the Lite version first, but I actually tried both versions and got stuck in basically the same place.

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The VIDEO_TS folders should be produced by your reauthor program, either Rejig or IFO Edit (depending on which guide you're using).  I've seen Rejig give me that kind of trouble before.  What program are you using?  What movie is it?  That could be important.  I've had a few movies go nuts in Rejig during the creation of the VIDEO_TS folders and the IFO files.

It's also possible that the VIDEO_TS folder was created, but it's not where you're looking.  Some programs will create a VIDEO_TS in a default location that may be separate from where the rest of your files are.  Pay attention to where you're asking it to place the reauthored files.
I used both, but spent the most time using Rejig and following the Lite guide.
The movie is Spider-man (the first one).
The re-author asked me to name the output folder (which I think I just named "output"), and it put a .VOB file inside that folder.  Are you saying if I re-mane the folder "VIDEO_TS" that would work?  I think the next step was asking me for a file, not a folder, but I'll definitely give that a shot if you think it might work.

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Also I'll add that reauthoring is fun to some, as a hobby, but too much of a pain for others, even diehard Rifftrax fans.  I've had some real challenges from movies that would only demultiplex part of the movie in the first phase (X-Men 2, Jaws) to movies that would create only a partial IFO Video_TS file when reauthored (Dark Water, Missile to the Moon) to movies that had some extra copy protection on them (Casino Royale, The Dark Knight) to movies that weren't even available on DVD (Star Wars Holiday Special, The Incredible Hulk Final Round).  They can be frustrating, but it's a great hobby.  If it gets to be to much for you, I recommend the Rifftrax Player.
Oh. it's no fun for me at all!  It's one notch above painful dentistry for me.  It's just the sad, necessary evil of Rifftrax (don't get me wrong, I understand legally why they can't just sell you proper DVDs of the Rifftrax'd films, and am not asking them to.  Really, that's why I've followed MST3K, CinTan and Film Crew but never Rifftrax up till now).

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So no matter how many times you tried to pause the track or the movie it kept going out of sync?  Are you sure you got the right version of the riff for your dvd?  (NTSC for North America or PAL for most everyone else)
Yeah, it's out of sync consistently throughout the entire film.  I think it's always a couple of seconds ahead of the video (you hear them say it, and then you see them say it).  I Definitely am using the NTSC Rifftrax for the NTSC DVD.  It's not (just) the Rifftrax that's out of sync, it's the original audio.  The Disembaudio voice is always 100% matched up throughout the film, but both audio tracks are always mismatched from the video footage.

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You don't HAVE to reauthor the movies at all.  All you have to do is put the dvd in your player, play the .mp3 file on your computer or stereo or whatever you want, listen to the prompts that Mike gives, and then start the movie when they say to.
I can't speak for that other lady, but I don't watch movies on my computer.  I watch them on the television with my family, and I just don't have a feasible way to connect my computer to my television.  I finally decided to buy a Rifftrax (of a DVD I already own - that's why I chose Spider-Man) because I read the guide and imagined being able to follow the steps and factory-like make some DVDs to watch.  But, yeah, I hit a solid dead-end (and unfortunately, it was on a step that came after buying the Rifftrack).  So I really hope I can make this work somehow, but I really can't imagine spending so many hours (not to mention tying up my computer for so long!) for every episode.  It's so frustrating!