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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2015, 07:04:02 PM »
I don't know for sure if it's the fact I have a new motherboard or that it's Windows 10. But my boot time is about 20 seconds (or less) and all of the games I've run so far perform significantly better. I used to run Wolfenstien the Old Blood at 60fps on high settings with a few things turned down. Now it runs at 80 fps with everything maxed. The Witcher 3 also picked up about 8-10 fps. The one outlier is Victor Vran which seems to perform a little worse. I haven't installed all the games I intend to download so I will update with any future findings.

Windows 10 definitely boots faster. I had to upgrade before doing a clean install, and the time it took to load all my startup programs was cut down significantly.

Doing a clean install now.


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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2015, 02:11:57 PM »
Huh.  Well, scratch updating my Windows 7 PC, then.  I could've sworn I had the "Upgrade to Windows 10" icon in the corner, but it's gone now.  And when I went to try Windows to get it put back on, it said "This version of Windows is not eligible."  It's Home Professional, with all updates installed, and a Genuine copy of Windows 7.  I know, because I bought it in-store.  I have no idea why it's no longer eligible.

But I'm in the waiting line on my laptop.  That seems to be going just fine, thankfully...once I can finally get it.

EDIT: Oop, wait again.  I installed a few optional updates, and then my PC said it had three important updates to install.  Windows can't even get its own updates straight.

FURTHER EDIT: Now it's apparently finding my version of Windows OK, but it's now saying the "Get Windows App does not work with this version of Windows."  I'm beginning to wonder what's up with the app, since I have 64-bit Windows 7.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2015, 04:13:10 PM »
Huh.  Well, scratch updating my Windows 7 PC, then.  I could've sworn I had the "Upgrade to Windows 10" icon in the corner, but it's gone now.  And when I went to try Windows to get it put back on, it said "This version of Windows is not eligible."  It's Home Professional, with all updates installed, and a Genuine copy of Windows 7.  I know, because I bought it in-store.  I have no idea why it's no longer eligible.

But I'm in the waiting line on my laptop.  That seems to be going just fine, thankfully...once I can finally get it.

EDIT: Oop, wait again.  I installed a few optional updates, and then my PC said it had three important updates to install.  Windows can't even get its own updates straight.

FURTHER EDIT: Now it's apparently finding my version of Windows OK, but it's now saying the "Get Windows App does not work with this version of Windows."  I'm beginning to wonder what's up with the app, since I have 64-bit Windows 7.

You don't have to wait for the app.  Just go here  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 to make an installation dvd or usb drive.  Then, while still in windows 7, run the windows 10 installation to upgrade your PC. 

Just make sure you don't boot from the installer.  You have to run the installer within windows 7 (or 8) to upgrade.


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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2015, 02:17:15 AM »
this one?

http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?action=unread;all;start=0

Yeah i think they were asking about this one. Thanks for quick response here.


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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2015, 06:35:51 AM »
I finally, after a few hours, got it all working.  I heard there may have been issues if you download and install Windows 10 when you're in the queue to get it (possible keygen conflicts or something), so I'm perfectly fine riding it out (gives me time to backup my stuff anyway), but if anyone else with Windows 7 runs into the issues I had with no icon, here's what's happening:

1. Make sure to download and run the Windows 10 app tool.  If you just run it from an internet temp file, it won't work right.
2. Make sure all the various updates are done.  If you have no icon, the app tool will tell you which one is missing and let you download it manually.
3. Finally...and this is the weird one...Internet Explorer 11 HAS to be installed on your system.  If you don't, the "Please Wait..." window will pop up and disappear in a few seconds.  Ironic how Microsoft is so keen to get rid of any mention of Internet Explorer, but in order to get Windows 10 with its new browser, they force you to have the old one installed simply to keep a window open.

But, at least now my two PCs are ready for 10.  All I need now is a solid state drive to boot from and my PC should be in business.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2015, 06:47:10 PM »
After several days the startup/shutdown times on my laptop have gotten much shorter, so now it's faster than they were with windows 7, not sure what sped things up?

Still haven't upgraded my desktop, I really don't want to lose my desktop gadgets (weather and Core Temp).  There are programs that will add them back but I'm not sure how secure/safe they are.


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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2015, 08:28:45 PM »
Two little things I really appreciate:

You have two monitors and your desktop background is a slideshow?  Hey, how about we let you have a different background on each monitor. Cause ya know, it's not like you'd even hang the same poster on your wall twice.

My computer actually goes to sleep on it's own again.  Perhaps I have yet to install the program or device that was keeping my computer awake, but so far I'm happy it's sleeping properly again.

EDIT:  Three things.  Welcome back 'Up one level' button.  Oh how I missed you, ever since XP (never used Vista, so I'm not sure if it had it). 
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2015, 09:12:52 PM »
 I tried out the 8gadgetpack program on my laptop and it seemed OK, so I upgraded my big PC to win10 and still have my gadgets on the desktop.

 Getting sound working was a pain, had to disable the sound for the HDMI port on my video card to get the motherboard sound to work.  The speakers had the green check mark as the current output but no sound until I disabled the nvidia device(s).

 No settings apps were working, I could get into parts of the control panel but trying to access most settings would open a window for a fraction of a second and close, it took a lot of searches to find the article at Microsoft that had a download to fix it.

 So after a few hours wasted on those issues everything seems to be working fine. 

 Only thing I'm not happy with are the colors, the color options are extremely limited, and no customizable colors, WTF?


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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2015, 12:07:05 PM »
My ship came in...on my laptop, at least.  Looks like all my data is intact, too.  Easiest Windows upgrade I've ever done.

Of course, I've only had half an hour with it, but I do like the look of the interface much better than 8.  And the boot time is lovely.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2015, 12:39:32 AM »
Wow, over a week of using windows 10 and putting it through it's paces I could not be happier. I hadn't really thought about it until today but I have had zero problems. I had more day to day problems with Windows 7. The biggest thing I appreciate is how effective the search function is. Literally anything you can think to customize, or modify windows can be searched for in easy basic English.

There are also many more little tweaks that add up quickly. An example would be when you have two windows open and you want to scroll down one or the other with the scroll wheel or arrow keys. On windows 7 you would have to click on some section of blank space you wanted to scroll on. Now it's just which ever window your cursor is over scrolls. I know this sounds like a really small thing, and it is, but it's stuff like this that has been improved that all adds up to much smoother experience. 

I would say this is the best windows experience I have ever had.

I made a mistake when installing it though. I accidentally hit express installation and I figured 'what ever' at the time. Now I'm finding out that there is likely a bunch of privacy stuff in the express install I would have liked to disable. Oh well I'll find them all at some point and fix that.


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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2015, 06:57:33 AM »
The search function is a big plus for me too. Not only is it broad and effective, but it's super fast too.


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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2015, 10:18:48 AM »
I made a mistake when installing it though. I accidentally hit express installation and I figured 'what ever' at the time. Now I'm finding out that there is likely a bunch of privacy stuff in the express install I would have liked to disable. Oh well I'll find them all at some point and fix that.

I did the custom install and still had to go and change a ton of privacy settings, and I'm still having to reset file associations even though I told the custom install not to change any...  So the express install might change a few more associations and turn on a couple of cortana options you might want off, but custom only gives you a small list of options. 

I never had any problems with 7, so I'm seeing little nagging things in 10 that keep me from saying it's better.

It would seem quite a few little things that used to be standard in windows are now going to be subscriptions, you have to pay to get solitaire back to the way it was, and it looks like DVD player will be a subscription as well, it's free for now for most people but probably not for long.  Of course VLC is free and better than any of the windows players, but the freecell in win7 was really nice, I haven't found an alternative to that I like.

And I'm still not real happy with the colors, I found a hack to make the title bar match your highlight color so that glaring white bar is now gone, I really don't understand why they took the ability to customize all your colors away, unless that is going to be a subscription thing as well.  I've been reading there are some registry hacks to change colors but it sounds like figuring out the hex code of the exact color you want might be a pain.  I prefer an off white background for text, the bright white is annoying right now.

I was having random boots with no USB, removed the intel usb 3 stuff for windows 7 and it's been fine since but only a handful of boots since then.


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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2015, 02:44:14 PM »
So my buddy CJ (that lives in my Mega Shed next door) tried out Winders 10 for a few days and liked it a lot until..
Reading through some 45 pages of Privacy stuff that it could access and send out to others, he tried to uninstall it and it would not uninstall properly so he wiped it with BCWIPED twice and still would not let him reinstall Windows 8 and after a 3rd try wiping the hard drive with 7 full passes all weekend long, he was able to get Windows 8 reinstalled and now he's still trying to get things (programs, and other software) back to where they were on his computer.. It even said his copy of Windows 8 wqsn't a legal copy when he bought it legally with an activation key.
Playing games after a while would start showing pop-ups, his contact list was 'copied', and now his tablet won't work right after connecting it up to his PC with Windows 10 - All his electrical stuff from work for the last 2 years is gone now so he's highly pissed!
No wonder they're 'giving' it away :o


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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2015, 03:38:39 PM »
Did he use the button in windows 10 under settings/update/recovery to go back to his old operating system?  I've only seen a few reports of people using it but no complaints about it not working.  Maybe he wiped the windows.old folder or deleted the windows 10 install folder, you need both still there to revert.

Doesn't make sense at all that wiping the hard drive didn't work the first time, sounds like serious user error.

There are a LOT of settings you've got to sort through if you want to turn off all the talking back to microsoft windows 10 does, took me probably half an hour to sort through them all.

Funny, I just looked at that recovery page and it says going back to windows 7 will only be available for a month after the upgrade to windows 10.


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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2015, 04:11:01 PM »
Did he use the button in windows 10 under settings/update/recovery to go back to his old operating system?  I've only seen a few reports of people using it but no complaints about it not working.  Maybe he wiped the windows.old folder or deleted the windows 10 install folder, you need both still there to revert.

Doesn't make sense at all that wiping the hard drive didn't work the first time, sounds like serious user error.

There are a LOT of settings you've got to sort through if you want to turn off all the talking back to microsoft windows 10 does, took me probably half an hour to sort through them all.

Funny, I just looked at that recovery page and it says going back to windows 7 will only be available for a month after the upgrade to windows 10.
I'll be honest.. I have no idea.
That's what I got out of his rambling rage and don't know what he did or didn't do..
Either way, I'll proly just wait till I'm forced to upgrade :-\