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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #60 on: November 26, 2006, 02:33:07 PM »
I'll throw in my vote for Transformers the Movie as well.

Ghost in the Shell might also be a good, if you wanted Rifftrax to do an anime film. It's probably more widely known than most other anime titles, besides Akira, which might be a bit much to deal with perhaps.


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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #61 on: December 01, 2006, 11:07:53 AM »
I'll throw in my vote for Transformers the Movie as well.

Ghost in the Shell might also be a good, if you wanted Rifftrax to do an anime film. It's probably more widely known than most other anime titles, besides Akira, which might be a bit much to deal with perhaps.

Ghost in the Shell will be too difficult to understand for those who've not seen it before. It would make more sense to riff an animated movie more people have seen.


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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #62 on: December 01, 2006, 11:11:04 AM »
Riffing movies that don't make sense to most people can be fun. :^) Befuddled astonishment can make a great riff all by itself. Look at the MST3K version of Jack Frost. :^)


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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #63 on: December 01, 2006, 03:21:44 PM »
Ghost in the Shell will be too difficult to understand for those who've not seen it before. It would make more sense to riff an animated movie more people have seen.
Riffing movies that don't make sense to most people can be fun. :^) Befuddled astonishment can make a great riff all by itself. Look at the MST3K version of Jack Frost. :^)

I agree that understanding the movie isn't a really essential when you're making fun of it to begin with. Anyway, my opinion that Ghost in the Shell would be good was based first on the assumption that IF you wanted the animated movie to specifically be an anime title, THEN you have to consider two primary factors:
1)Which anime movie would stand a chance of even having its name recognized by anyone that is NOT already familiar with anime in general.
2)Would it then be popular enough for people to own it already, or at least be fairly accessible to people to rent at a local store? (despite Netflix, local movie rental stores still get a lot of business.) This will depend greatly on where you live. Most video rental stores where I live do NOT have any more than the sporadic anime title, half of which seem to end up being one DVD out of 5 or 6 of a tv series.

The best candidates then, in my opinion, are Akira and Ghost in the Shell, which have been around long enough (and were popular enough back in the day) to have had a chance to seep into general culture via fanboy word-of-mouth. Most other anime films are still too new and unmarketed to anyone outside the anime fan culture to be widely recognized, even if they are good films (like Metropolis for example). This of course excludes Ghibli films, which Disney made sure everyone heard about rather quickly, but I don't think any Ghibli film would make for a good riff. Two exceptions to the word-of-mouth and Disney-backed advertising methods, would be Final Fantasy: the Spirits Within, since it actually made it to a lot of theaters in the US, and maybe the Cowboy Bebop movie, since the Cowboy Bebop TV series was one of the most popular anime series ever to hit the US that was also enjoyable to "normal people" (i.e. didn't put them off with bizarro-world monster pets or make them feel like pedo's watching teenage girls transform magically, not to mention scantily, into "soldiers" that battle evil in ridiculous looking outfits, etc. etc. )

So as it stands, the number of anime titles that would have a chance of being riffed are slim (given the market recognition/acceptance limitations) to none (given that it seems Mike and crew aren't really keen on anime, or even animated titles of Disney or Pixar fame in general according to what I've heard thus far. So this is all just academic anyway I suppose.


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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #64 on: December 01, 2006, 03:42:20 PM »
If you want a good anime film to riff, you should go for Ninja Scroll.  It just begs for it.
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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #65 on: December 01, 2006, 04:00:09 PM »
If you want a good anime film to riff, you should go for Ninja Scroll.  It just begs for it.

Ninja Scroll is incredibly bad, I agree. Unfortunately it would also put "normal" people off from watching it, due to the ludicrious inclusion of grotesque, unnatural characters and sorcerous abilities into what could have otherwise, potentially, been a decent medieval japanese feudal setting and story. Plus it's just not that well known outside anime circles.


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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #66 on: December 01, 2006, 05:22:30 PM »
Mayhaps an Inuyasha movie. It's just bizzare enough to work. :^)


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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #67 on: December 01, 2006, 06:22:59 PM »
Mayhaps an Inuyasha movie. It's just bizzare enough to work. :^)

I was about to ask you if you really thought people who took 167 episodes to "finish" a story could actually make a movie of only 2 hours... but apparently they made a number of them.  :P  heh, can't imagine they're very good though. the series always looked pretty tame from the episodes I saw. I'd be surprised if they managed to inject anything better than yawn-worthy story-telling in them.


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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #68 on: December 01, 2006, 06:23:49 PM »
There is some very adult subject matter in Ninja Scroll, much moreso than Road House. I don't see that as a possible riff based on its adult content.

I don't know how it is in many other states, but in both Oklahoma and Texas, you can walk in to any Best Buy store and find an entire aisle of nothing but Anime films and TV shows.

Now Akira would be a good riff if they used the English Dub from back in the early 90s. The voices were so rediculous, and the translation was very stupid, completely changing much of the story to fit the english voices. That one deserves a good riffing. They changed the Colonel's voice from a very deep Japanese voice to a high pitch, squeaky American voice. Stupid.


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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #69 on: December 01, 2006, 07:08:53 PM »
There is some very adult subject matter in Ninja Scroll, much moreso than Road House. I don't see that as a possible riff based on its adult content.

Now Akira would be a good riff if they used the English Dub from back in the early 90s.

oooh, bad-dub Akira. heh. I still have that version myself. good ol' VHS  :P  (only the corrected version made it to DVD thankfully)

Even Akira had some pretty tough subject matters though. The cheesy moments aside,
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That makes me think of a couple of scenes in Jin-Roh actually.


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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2006, 07:53:06 AM »
You're all wrong.  Legend of the Overfiend would be an awesome rifftrax.   ;D


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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2006, 08:26:38 AM »
You're all wrong.  Legend of the Overfiend would be an awesome rifftrax.   ;D

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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #72 on: December 03, 2006, 01:47:48 PM »
I don't really think riffing comedies is a great idea, though I think it's an experiment they should at least try at some point.  A whole lot of animated films (basically all of Pixar's, and most other CG films) fall at least partially into the comedy bin.  I think to do animation well, you'd have to go after something that takes itself way too seriously, so I have a couple suggests.  One, Dinosaur from a couple years back.  Big-budget Disney, stupid plot, and just preachy enough to work.  My second pick is a bit older, Ferngully: The Last Rainforest.  It doesn't get more "message"-y than this.  Plus, it's just so stupid at times.


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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2006, 02:03:10 AM »
You know what desperately needs to be riffed?

Disney's Pocahontas
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Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
« Reply #74 on: December 04, 2006, 02:07:23 AM »
I finally got around to putting my new Transformers: The Movie DVD in the other night, and as I sat down, the mp3 player with which I play RiffTrax caught my eye. As my nostalgia quickly washed away, I found myself desperately wanting to switch on the mp3 player in the illogical hope that a Transformers Riff had magically appeared on it.

Man, that movie sucks. And I really like Transformers.