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So what's the big deal with this movie?
« on: June 02, 2009, 07:40:14 PM »
It wasn't a bad movie.  It was okay, but it wasn't great. 

It seems like the thing has been so hyped up, and spoofed, and paid homage to, and quoted, that it was trying so hard to be "great cinema" instead of a good movie.  I just found it kinda boring.


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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2009, 07:45:05 PM »
I read somewhere that the producers had no idea this would become a hit. It was just another manufactured movie at the time that didn't seem to have any good reason to stand out above the others.


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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2009, 08:26:33 PM »
I suppose you get it or you don't.

For those of us who love it, it's a perfect blend of romance, poignancy, wit, and heroism, a wonderful story told through great writing and immortal performances.

For those who don't love it -- well, I don't know why they don't. Maybe our age is too cynical for heroism and romance and so forth. I'm just glad that I love it.
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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2009, 09:15:51 PM »
I like it. It has great performances and everything else. I just don't LOVE it simply because drama isn't my kind of genre.



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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2009, 02:27:11 AM »
Maybe our age is too cynical for heroism and romance and so forth.

Yep, I think that's it.


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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2009, 03:14:13 AM »
Jesus wept!  :'(


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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2009, 06:47:18 AM »
Well, Rick was an engaging enough character.  He was scorned by a woman and so bitter that he becomes neutral to all parties, all emotions and idealogies shunned.  I liked that, related to it, identified with that character.  Bogart did well with it.

I just didn't feel that the overall story was particularly interesting.  It seemed that the film maker was trying to tell a story of Rick overcoming his bitterness, breaking out of his shell, and giving up his club to get the woman who broke his heart and her husband out of the country.  I get that.

What I didn't understand was why the Nazis didn't just arrest Laslo.  Why were they going through with this whole "due process" thing as they seemed to be doing?  They're NAZIS.

Maybe I missed some vital details, but I would love and explanation.


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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 08:29:46 AM »
It's been my favorite film from the first time I saw it, back in the 70s in a real movie theater. If you've never seen it on the true silver screen, you owe it to yourself to find it playing somewhere.
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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 08:34:09 AM »
Well it's a very well directed,well written,well acted,and exciting drama.

Other then that I have no idea what the big deal is.


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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2009, 08:34:47 AM »
What I didn't understand was why the Nazis didn't just arrest Laslo.  Why were they going through with this whole "due process" thing as they seemed to be doing?  They're NAZIS.

Maybe I missed some vital details, but I would love and explanation.

It's complicated, but here's a good place to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichy_France
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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2009, 10:33:34 AM »
It's been my favorite film from the first time I saw it, back in the 70s in a real movie theater. If you've never seen it on the true silver screen, you owe it to yourself to find it playing somewhere.

Unless it's a big effects blockbuster, I can't see why a larger screen and heftier speakers would make a difference.


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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2009, 10:51:43 AM »
It's been my favorite film from the first time I saw it, back in the 70s in a real movie theater. If you've never seen it on the true silver screen, you owe it to yourself to find it playing somewhere.

Unless it's a big effects blockbuster, I can't see why a larger screen and heftier speakers would make a difference.
I think it's more about quality of sound and the event aspect of seeing it in a movie theater as apposed to home.



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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2009, 10:55:39 AM »
It's been my favorite film from the first time I saw it, back in the 70s in a real movie theater. If you've never seen it on the true silver screen, you owe it to yourself to find it playing somewhere.

Unless it's a big effects blockbuster, I can't see why a larger screen and heftier speakers would make a difference.
I think it's more about quality of sound and the event aspect of seeing it in a movie theater as apposed to home.

I guess I can relate to that.  Even a more tepid movie feels better in the theater than in the home.  At home, you're a guy sitting around his house, which we're supposed to be ashamed of (especially if the weather is nice).  At a theater, you're "out".


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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2009, 11:07:04 AM »
And it's so much bigger, it's larger than life which is how the movies were back in those days. You can appreciate the details. These days people tend to think of old B&W movies as something on a cheap TV set running while they are doing other things around the house.

It's not about special effects. Seriously.
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Re: So what's the big deal with this movie?
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2009, 09:50:34 PM »
If you can rent the 2 disc edition, with Roger Eberts commentary, listen to that.. While I don't always like him as a reviewer, he is a top notch film historian and his commentaries are very informative.

This is one of my top 5 favorite films. I first saw it whan I was 8 years old and my young brain and heart was so blown away.... a cinephile was born that day. I find it smartly scripted, acted and directed., if you want more details, well It's not a film I can disect the same way I could a Hitchcock or Kurosawa film, it's just a solid well made cinematic materpiece. Give Ebert a listen, he should be a good guide through the naunces that make Casablnca special.


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