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The Blu-Ray Thread
« on: January 16, 2009, 09:58:30 PM »
A safe haven for those of us who have blu-ray and other HD tech and want to share knowledge of upcoming HD hardware and software.

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No format war discussion here.  This is a place for those of us who want to talk about our HD experiences, reviews, and thoughts on new Blu-Rays and other HD stuff.
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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2009, 10:32:38 PM »
Good idea on the new thread.

Just got done with "When We Left Earth", all the film based restorations and IMAX stuff shot aboard the shuttle looked fantastic, the stuff that was restored from video not so great.  There's also lots of archive footage in the bonus features, I think all of it is standard def.  Only real complaint with the series is the transitions, all the little bits of film leader were just annoying, over all the shows they probably wasted several minutes with that stuff.

 Also watched The Untouchables and L.A. Confidential recently, no complaints about the HD transfers on those.  Had not watched L.A Confidential in a long time, had forgotten just how good that movie is, watched it the day after watching the rifftrax of The Dark Knight and couldn't help but think of the last jokes on that rifftrax, people have such short memories when it comes to "the greatest movie ever"...

 The Panasonic portable player just announced at CES looks interesting, no info yet on price, one drawback of having BD right now is not being able to take it anywhere and share it like you can with DVDs.

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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2009, 05:56:34 AM »
I can dig the desire to have a threat dedicated solely to the use of the format. I promise to behave. :)

A warning to any gaming geeks: DO NOT seek out a copy of the Blu-Ray release of Dragon's Lair. I saw it in a game store last week on sale for $20 and couldn't resist picking it up. Apparently the retail price is $50 and you can still get it shipped from the manufacturer's website. Anyway, it is a piece of SHIT... the load times are so horrendous and badly put together, that there is a 3-6 second loading gap between each scene (and as anyone who has actually played the arcade game will remember, timing is critical and you often have to make moves the second you come into a new room - so an unknown delay of several seconds is basically a guaranteed death). I had high hopes for this when I picked it up, because I remember the Laserdisc release of the actual game being near perfect (but minus the additional content which is on this new disc)... it was a huge disappointment and a complete waste of my money. Be warned!
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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2009, 08:58:20 AM »
Pinocchio in March!   Wonder when they'll get to Aladdin...


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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2009, 09:44:01 AM »
Pinocchio is one i am going to have to see.

Am i looking forward to picking up all the Planet of the Apes movies on Blue Ray over the next few months.

I'm glad we are getting some older tittles on Blue Ray now that the format war is over.


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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2009, 02:49:39 PM »
The year is filling out a bit nicer--

Yeah, there's some good catalog titles coming soon.  I'm really looking forward to getting Ronin next month.  I'm hoping it gets a great transfer.

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Still waiting for Sarah Connor Chronicles...

I actually really enjoyed this show.  I really liked how they expanded on the Terminator universe without shitting on it.  The writing & acting can get a bit cheesy at times, but overall it's worth seeing IMO.  And the BD looks pretty good too.

Speaking of good looking BDs, I just watched The Incredible Hulk, and this disc deserves all the praise it's getting.  Probably one of the best transfers I've seen yet.  The movie is pretty good too, I really liked what they did with the story, and I would welcome any any sequels this might spawn.  Although, I'd really like to see the infamous "Edward Norton Cut" of the movie....I hope it sees the light of day eventually.
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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2009, 04:45:27 PM »
I'll rent that one, not buy.  It's very nice that Netflix has BD rentals.  I've actually noticed that in a couple of instances there are BD-only rentals; I have "Chuck" season 1 in my queue and it does not give me an option to switch to DVD.

That's because it's a multi-disc set.  You can rent it in DVD, but you'd have to change your rental preferences for it to add the regular DVDs.
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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2009, 04:58:18 PM »
I'm not sure you'd want to though, wouldn't the entire season of Chuck fit on one or two discs, as opposed to 5 or 6 for DVD. 


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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2009, 08:49:17 PM »
Hey if anyone sees the Planet of the Ape movies on Blue ray could you let me know what the prints look like,the ones they used for the DvDs looked Awful and i hope they have fixed them up or found better ones for the blue rays.


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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2009, 08:58:17 PM »
Hey if anyone sees the Planet of the Ape movies on Blue ray could you let me know what the prints look like,the ones they used for the DvDs looked Awful and i hope they have fixed them up or found better ones for the blue rays.

This reviewer wasn't blown away by the transfers.  It looks like they used the same masters as the previous DVD versions:

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Fox previously released the 'Planet of the Apes' films on standard DVD in multiple configurations. These Blu-ray versions are culled from the same masters used for the most recent anamorphic DVD transfers, and are generally good-looking if a bit inconsistent from film to film. The original 'Planet of the Apes' and its four sequels are each offered in 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 video and framed at 2.35:1. (Note that 'Conquest of the Planet of the Apes' and 'Battle for the PLanet of the Apes' include both the original theatrical and unrated extended versions accessible via seamless branching.)

'Planet of the Apes' fares pretty well. There is a small if noticeable amount of dirt and blemishes on the print but no major wear and tear. Softness is rampant, and overall visible detail enjoys an uptick over the DVD, but not a monumental leap. Colors are solid and clean, but are not intensely vibrant -- 'Apes' in high-def still screams "'60s flick!" Black levels generally hold solid and contrast is adequately balanced, but shadow delineation is not superior and some darker scenes lack for definition. On the plus side, the encode is top-notch with no visible artifacts save from some noisy grain (which is indicative of the source). Make no mistake, 'Planet of the Apes' is still a very good transfer, just no revelation.

'Beneath the Planet of the Apes'
looks a tad better than the first film in spots, but worse in others. Colors are generally bolder and cleaner, and fleshtones more realistic. Detail is about on par with the first film (aside from the opening prologue sequence that recaps the first film, which looks noticeably inferior) and depth holds up well for such a vintage title. The print is also slightly cleaner, as I noticed less blemishes overall (except on some of the phony matte and effects shots). However, there are sporadic shots that look very soft, and lack decent shadow detail. 'Beneath' is perhaps the spottiest of all five films.

Next is 'Escape from the Planet of the Apes,' which I thought looked the best. It's the most consistent, with a nice clean source and an attractive color palette. Detail is quite strong for the era, and this is also the sharpest of the transfers. There are still moments of softness and flat contrast, and certainly the effects shots still fare poorly. But 'Escape' still gets the nod as the most improved of the five films.

'Conquest for the Planet of the Apes' doesn't seem to receive the same attention as the others. It's a darker film, and suffers because of it, with often poor shadow delineation and quite a variance in visible depth and softness. The richer colors are still pretty clean, however. The print is also somewhat worn around the edges, with noticeable dirt and blemishes. Though this is far from a superlative transfer compared to the others in this set, on its own terms it's still a pretty good catalog remaster.

Finally, we have 'Battle for the Planet of the Apes,' which benefits from a brighter look than 'Conquest' but it's still inconsistent in terms of the quality of the source. There are blemishes, and contrast tends to waver in darker scenes. Detail can be quite good to mediocre, with the image sometimes flattening out. Colors are a bit more attractive than 'Conquest' but not up to par with the earlier installments. As with all these transfers, the encode is solid, with no major blemishes or artifacts.

Individual ratings: 'Planet of the Apes' 3.5/5.0. 'Beneath the Planet of the Apes' 3.5/5.0. 'Escape from the Planet of the Apes' 4.0/5.0. 'Conquest of the Planet of the Apes' 3.0/5.0. 'Battle for the Planet of the Apes' 3.0/5.0.
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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2009, 06:41:31 AM »
Thanks alot.

I didn't know there was a 40th ann. edition my Planet of the Apes discs were a Boxset from sometime in the early 2000s and they really didn't look good.

I can wait to get the Blue Rays.

Also am i the only one who thinks 2001 is one of the most amazing things on Blue ray?


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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2009, 06:55:17 AM »
I've been meaning to pick that up,I'll have to put that on the top of my list.


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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2009, 09:20:29 AM »
So, what February BD releases are you renting/buying?

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February 03, 2009
Being There (Warner)
Clerks II (Weinstein)
The Cure: Trilogy - Live In Berlin (Eagle Rock)
Friday the 13th (1980) (Paramount)
Jeff Dunham: Arguing with Myself (Image)
k.d. lang: Live in London (Image)
Napoleon Dynamite (Fox)
Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist (Sony)
Office Space (Fox)
Rent: Filmed Live on Broadway (Sony)
Secret Life of Bees (Fox)
Sex Drive (Summit)
Sideways (Fox)
Space Buddies (Walt Disney)
Taxi Driver (Sony)
Zack and Miri Make a Porno (Weinstein)

February 06, 2009
Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa (Paramount)

February 10, 2009
Amadeus: Director's Cut (Warner)
Boondock Saints (Fox)
Chocolate (Magnolia)
Donnie Darko (Fox)
Doom (Universal)
Dragon Ball Z: Super Android 13 / Bojack Returns (FUNimation)
Frozen River (Sony)
A History of Violence (Warner)
Hurricane on the Bayou (Image)
IMAX: Grand Canyon Adventure - River at Risk (Image)
IMAX: Super Speedway (Image)
Little Miss Sunshine (Fox)
Miracle at St. Anna (Walt Disney)
My Name is Bruce (Image)
Nights in Rodanthe (Warner)
The Pelican Brief (Warner)
Pretty Woman (Walt Disney)
Raging Bull (MGM)
The Rundown (Universal)
Soul Men (2008) (Weinstein)
Street Fighter (Universal)
A Time to Kill (Warner)
W. (Lionsgate)
The Way of War (First Look)

February 15, 2009
Highlander: The Series - Season One (Legendary Heroes)

February 17, 2009
Body of Lies (Warner)
Capote (2005) / In Cold Blood (Two-Pack) (Sony)
Changeling (2008) (Universal)
Gandhi (Sony)
High School Musical 3 (Walt Disney)
High School Musical: Remix (Walt Disney)
How to Lose Friends & Alienate People (MGM)
Kramer vs. Kramer (Sony)
The Midnight Meat Train (Lionsgate)
One Long Night (Vivendi Visual)
The Passion of the Christ (Definitive Edition) (Fox)
Quarantine (Sony)

February 20, 2009
What Just Happened (Magnolia)

February 24, 2009
The Bird with the Crystal Plumage (Blue Underground)
The French Connection II (Fox)
The French Connection (Fox)
Futurama: Into the Wild Green Yonder (Fox)
Kill Switch (Momentum)
The Matador (2008) (City Lights)
Neil Young: Archives Volume One - (1963-!972) (Warner Music Group)
Ronin (MGM)
Vanishing Point (Fox)
The Who: Live At The Isle Of Wight Festival 1970 (Eagle Rock)


I'll be buying:
Ronin

I'll be renting:
Zack and Miri Make a Porno (very strong possibility that I'll buy this if I like it)
Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist
W.
What Just Happened
Body of Lies
Changeling

And I'd like to heartily recommend The Matador to those of you who haven't seen it, it's fantastic.  I already own it, and still I'm tempted to double-dip on it, but only if the audio/video is superb.
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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2009, 09:27:29 AM »
Is that the Pierce Brosnan one?

Yeah, but;

I'm wrong, the blu-ray listed for release on Feb 24th is a different movie.  Nevermind.

But I still recommend the Brosnan one.
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Re: The Blu-Ray Thread
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2009, 09:28:52 AM »
Remastering old movies to a good definition is time consuming and expensive, I've read.  That's why there's not a whole lot of old stuff flooding the market.  That's a decent list, though.  I'd be tempted by Raging Bull if it had decent extras, but otherwise I'm all over Street Fighter! :)