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Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« on: December 09, 2006, 04:57:46 PM »
Alright, wether or not you like Mel Gibson, this is an AMAZING film. Beutiful and well done. Violent, yes, but tastefully done. Wow... I am in awe about how good this film was. If you're going to boycott this film because of what Mel Gibson said ( come on, he was drunk. Alot of drunk people say things they don't mean ), then you're missing out on a great movie. Go see it now!
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Re: Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2006, 05:15:08 PM »
I saw a trailer and was interested.  So you really liked it?  I'm just worried about what Mel Gibson would do with a story about a native people.  The mindset is, well should be, completely different than something like The Passion of the Christ.  Actually, I don't really know anything about the film.  Is it a fictional native people?  I might have to see it if you thought it was so good.


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Re: Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2006, 05:40:12 PM »
I saw a trailer and was interested.  So you really liked it?  I'm just worried about what Mel Gibson would do with a story about a native people.  The mindset is, well should be, completely different than something like The Passion of the Christ.  Actually, I don't really know anything about the film.  Is it a fictional native people?  I might have to see it if you thought it was so good.

It takes place in the Mayan civilization. Its about a guy who lives in a village that is attacked by Mayan warriors and he hides his pregnant wife and child in a well where they can't get out, and he is captured by the warriors along with several other people to be taken to the Mayan city to be sacrifised to the gods. A solar eclipse happens during the ceremony and the cheif spares the prisoners lives. He eventually escapes the city and is chased down by the Mayan warriors which makes up the bulk of the film. And its all done in ancient Mayan language similar to the Passion of the Christ which adds to the authenticity.

Like I said, its really an amazing movie. You really should see it.
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Re: Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2006, 09:32:48 AM »
    Wow, solar eclipse. Ya hardly never see those (except in movies about ancient civilizations) And two hours of sub-titles, yippee...
   No thanks, I think I can take a more restful nap at home. But I'm glad you enjoyed it.


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Re: Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2006, 10:03:34 AM »
    Wow, solar eclipse. Ya hardly never see those (except in movies about ancient civilizations) And two hours of sub-titles, yippee...

I hope that's not a slam on subtitled movies, 'cause some of the best films ever made are foreign...


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Re: Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2006, 12:46:56 PM »
    Wow, solar eclipse. Ya hardly never see those (except in movies about ancient civilizations) And two hours of sub-titles, yippee...

I hope that's not a slam on subtitled movies, 'cause some of the best films ever made are foreign...

Exactly! And they deserve to be seen in their original language because dubbing sucks! The same people that slam subs usually make fun of dubbing because the mouths don't match up to the audio!  You can't win!
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2006, 12:51:46 PM »
    No, but it is a slam on movies that completely disguise the fact that all the dialogue is sub-titled by having zero dialogue in previews or tv commercials.   A lot of people don't read up on movies before they walk in and there will be some very surprised audience members this weekend.
    I have a lot of Kurosawa's films so subs don't bug me.  More power to those who enjoy "Apocolypto" but I know it's not for me.


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Re: Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2006, 01:10:59 PM »
   No, but it is a slam on movies that completely disguise the fact that all the dialogue is sub-titled by having zero dialogue in previews or tv commercials.   A lot of people don't read up on movies before they walk in and there will be some very surprised audience members this weekend.
    I have a lot of Kurosawa's films so subs don't bug me.  More power to those who enjoy "Apocolypto" but I know it's not for me.

The subtitles really aren't that bad. The dialogue is very basic, and most of the movie is action without dialogue anyway. That's okay if you don't want to see it, but you're really missing on hell of a film.
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Re: Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2006, 01:49:17 PM »
I too was intrigued by the preview. If I don't see it in the theater then I'll check it out on DVD for sure!


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Re: Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2006, 04:33:45 PM »
By the way, here's a cool clip that should get some of you interested:


http://www.totaleclips.com/Player/Bounce.aspx?eclipid=e30617&bitrateid=341&vendorid=600
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Re: Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2006, 04:53:56 PM »
The whole point of foreign language is an art form itself. Like "Das Boot" german movie about u-boat in wwII. You know they are our enemy. You see them struggle to get home. You start rooting for them but they are speaking german. They converted it to english and lost the art of the movie. To know how foreign people are but how much we have in common really makes a good movie.  Subtitle movies are really good sometimes. 


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Re: Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2006, 09:47:46 AM »
Me, Torgo, Conor, and Mike jsut saw Apocalypto yesterday, and we thought it was awesome! (Especially the ending)

Anyway - you have to aprpeciate the language and the story - and the incredible symbolism. It's a great movie with but a couple situations that make you go "umm...hello?" but overall it was a very solid film.

It also helps going with Mike cuz the insane laughter never ceases =)
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Re: Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2006, 10:35:18 AM »
I can get behind that.  I thought Apocalypto was brilliant. 
It actually followed the movie law of "Show, don't tell".  That is so rare, I was taken aback.
The visuals were incredible.
It breathed life into stone-aged Mayan society.
Characters interacted organically, no one did stupid things because the writer told them to.
The threats were credible and dangerous.
The theme of fate, perhaps even a theme of judgement.
A child that was not annoying.
No "name" actors to devour the oxygen in a scene.
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Re: Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2006, 03:28:33 PM »
Me, Torgo, Conor, and Mike jsut saw Apocalypto yesterday, and we thought it was awesome! (Especially the ending)

Anyway - you have to aprpeciate the language and the story - and the incredible symbolism. It's a great movie with but a couple situations that make you go "umm...hello?" but overall it was a very solid film.

It also helps going with Mike cuz the insane laughter never ceases =)

Glad to hear you guys liked it! My favourite scene was the sacrifise scene. It was just spectacular. The huge crowd, the dancing girls with all the make up, the costumes, the preist, the king with the huge headdress, it just made a great cinematic experience. And the best part was that it had barely no CGI. It really reminded me of the old epic films of the 50s like Ben Hur.
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Re: Apocalypto= Amazing film.
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2006, 06:09:14 PM »
I'll give this thread a little bump. 

It's any amazing film, and deserves to be seen.  Their portrayal of the Mayan culture was completely sympathetic.  I don't know much about Mayan culture, but nothing popped out as unbelievable.  I'm sure they took some liberties with the costumes, but I didn't mind because it looked amazing.  If you haven't seen it yet, I recommend it.  I've yet to hear a bad review. 

EDIT:  Alright, because I was curious, I went out and looked for some bad reviews, and there are some.  As I'm sure you guessed, it's not historically accurate.  And now that I look at it, it would be pretty easy to interpret the film as saying that the Maya culture was dissolving from within when the Spanish came, and that it would have fallen any way, which is not true. 
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And the old saying holds true here, that all works of fiction written about the past or future say more about the time they were written then the time they were written about.  I still enjoy this as a film and a work of fiction, though I guess I can't go bragging to my history teacher about it. 
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