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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #60 on: November 01, 2009, 06:04:50 AM »
How these people played them shaped how they were portrayed subsequently. The best you can say for Rockwell is that he's doing a poor takeoff of Wing-Davey.

That's pure speculation, it's possibly Sam Rockwell hadn't even listened to the radio show or watched the TV movie
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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #61 on: November 01, 2009, 06:09:51 AM »
No, not intentionally doing a takeoff, what is achieved is at best a poor takeoff.

Regardless of what he intended that is what it comes across as.

But that's besides the point since what we're actually talking about is the book, saying "Zaphod in the new book doesn't sound like Sam Rockwell" is completely asinine, I would hope he doesn't considering the Zaphod of the books is at least partially (and a fairly large partial amount) on Wing-Davey, who in turn is originating a character based on somebody from Cambridge that Adams knew.

Oh and what TV movie? There's a six part TV series, but there isn't a TV movie unless it's some sort of edited version of the series.

Lest people imagine that I'm not aware that this is exactly what some PBS, and presumably other broadcasters did to the series; I know, however if you are referring to the TV incarnation you really sahould refer to it as what it was rather than what some other broadcaster did to it.
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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #62 on: November 04, 2009, 08:39:40 PM »
I completely spaced on the new book being released, so I just bought it today.

Only about half a chapter in so far, but it seems pretty good. Made me laugh in a few parts, seems to capture Adams' style nicely (perhaps it tires too hard to do so in parts, but I'm OK with that). I'll have to finish reading it, though, before I say anything else.


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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2009, 06:53:29 PM »
I finished it recently, and I really enjoyed it. He seems to be trying really hard to channel Adams' style, and seems to go on a lot more description tangents, but I'm OK with that. Story was pretty interesting, characters acted like they should (even managed to get me to start caring about Random. Tough thing to do), and all in all, it was pretty funny. Definitely had me laughing at a lot of lines.

I'm not a fan about how the Guide Mark 2 was just randomly eliminated towards the beginning. That was a cool thing, shouldn't just have a bridge dropped on it like that.

And I liked how Zaphod was in the book, seemed exactly how I imagined him to be.


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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2009, 07:03:56 PM »
OK I'm about forty pages in, I did actually really like the cigarette a few pages back.

His grasp of how to use "Frood" is a wee bit wonky though.


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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2009, 07:09:42 PM »
I've seen people bring up the use of Frood (and, slightly less frequently, how zark isn't supposed to be capitalized or some such thing). I don't see a problem, but then, I was never totally sure how to use it either.


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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2009, 07:14:24 PM »
It's fairly easy to understand:

Sass: know, be aware of, meet, have sex with

Hoopy: really together guy

Frood: really amazingly together guy

Hence a phrase which has passed into hitch hiking slang, as in "Hey, you sass that hoopy Ford Prefect? There's a frood who really knows where his towel is."

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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #67 on: November 12, 2009, 07:16:42 PM »
Seems easy enough to use as an adjective.


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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2010, 03:35:07 PM »
I will preface this by saying that I have not read the new Hitchhiker's book, nor do I plan on doing so. I was a HUGE fan of Douglas Adams' books, and actually really enjoyed the movie. But I have read the Artemis Fowl series and did not enjoy it, so I don't really like the idea of having the author run with one of my favorite book series of all time. I agree that it seems too Dune-y, and THIS one isn't even done by a son or cousin or relation of Douglas Adams. It's kind of like the Wheel of Time series, too....I LOVE Brandon Sanderson's stuff, but I don't think he should've picked up the Wheel of TIme series for Robert Jordan after he passed. It's not that I'm saying they don't DESERVE it...but, to me, some things should stay with their original makers and not be taken anywhere else. I'm sorry if Robert Jordan died  before he was finished with his series...but that means that's it, sorry. I mean....I would feel pretty weird about reading the new Stephen King's Dark Tower novel if Stephen King died and someone else picked it up, even if that person was Joe Hill. (And yes, I am aware of the Dark Tower comic book series. But Stephen King has his hands very deep in that project)  Or if Terry Goodkind had died and someone tried to finish his series. Or Terry Brooks or Terry Pratchett. Or George R.R. Martin. I don't care if the people taking over the project care, or are big fans themselves, or try to stay as true to the series as they can. It's just...not the same.


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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #69 on: February 21, 2010, 12:12:27 AM »
I think continuing an author's series is okay, but it shouldn't be done on this kind of unsolicited basis. It's either the kind of thing that's such a huge phenomenon that gets so far from the original author that it can be an ongoing franchise like Conan, Star Wars, Star Trek... or whatever, or it's exclusively linked to its author like HHGG, Lord of the Rings, or what have you. Even though Star Wars is, or at least should be, exclusively George Lucas at least where the original medium is concerned, he set the whole book series off by authorizing the first novel by Alan Dean Foster to be written.

If they did a whole series of Hitchhiker's books by alternating authors to get as many published as they could because there was a fanbase and public demand for it, then okay. You can't argue with public demand. But when they're just trying to make an extra buck out of something nobody needed more of through imitation of the original, that's just not right. Especially when some slick, schmoozing besuited slime worked his oily magic to convince the poor wife of a dead man that it was really respectful to exploit his life's work with a cheap knockoff.

If Douglas had ever sold the rights of Hitchhiker's in any form during his life and allowed any production of it to take place without his involvement, you'd have some argument for the validity of this project. But he was always involved. It was his baby. It was not a franchise. It was a single entity that symbiotically existed in many different forms.

There was, to my knowledge, only one HHGG product made that Douglas was not involved in. A particularly dull looking video game by Pandemic that never got released. AS GOD INTENDED IT.

As far as I'm concerned, this is an UNAUTHORIZED continuation. There's no such word as, "authorswifeized." I don't believe in estates controlled by relatives with no creative talent or understanding of it.


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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2010, 09:50:20 AM »
I've not read the rest of this thread -- I just noticed that someone had started one regarding "And Another Thing" which I finished right after it came out.  I liked it, but not as much as I liked a lot of Douglas' other books.  My all-time favorite is still "The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul" and I really, REALLY wish I still had the cassette tapes of him reading it (the player ate them).  The new book ran along the lines of H2G2 as I expected it would and it played on the fact that if you didn't know your H2G2 info you'd be lost.  I bought it to read and enjoy, which I did.  Do I think it's as good as any Douglas wrote?  Heck no!  But on it's own it wasn't eye-meltingly awful.  It will go with all the rest of my first-editions of the H2G2 & Dirk Gently series on the bookshelf and wait for my youngest to get interested.  I may never read it again.  But I still liked it.
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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #71 on: October 04, 2010, 03:48:00 PM »
Just tried the free preview on my Kindle, didn't like the first chaper much, the writing style just is too "flat" compared to DNA...  So, I'll not be buying it...

I did buy Starship Titanic after reading the sample, I remember the game has some funny stuff in it and it seems to be fairly well written, for some reason I never got around to reading the novel back when the game came out.


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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #72 on: October 04, 2010, 09:07:35 PM »
I saw a book at Barnes & Noble and saw the words "Bestselling Author Of The Artemis Fowl Series" and "Douglas Adams' 'Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy' The Story Continues" and I was excited because I thought "Cool, he's already written a sequel to 'And Another Thing';"  But then I realized it was just the paperback edition of "And Another Thing".  Oh well.
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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #73 on: October 05, 2010, 08:57:00 AM »
I did buy Starship Titanic after reading the sample, I remember the game has some funny stuff in it and it seems to be fairly well written, for some reason I never got around to reading the novel back when the game came out.

I had the game too.  How similar is it to the book?


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Re: New Hitchhiker's novel?
« Reply #74 on: October 05, 2010, 11:10:14 AM »
I did buy Starship Titanic after reading the sample, I remember the game has some funny stuff in it and it seems to be fairly well written, for some reason I never got around to reading the novel back when the game came out.

I had the game too.  How similar is it to the book?

I'm about half way through the book, it's very different from the game, elements from the game are in the book but there are more characters and more plot lines.