Just what the hell is Turner thinking!

[Thom_Serveaux]

It just seems that for the most part, things are done as cheaply as possible.  Now there are some exceptions, of course. Boondocks being the prime example, the production values, especially the art and animation are absolutely gorgeous!  My only gripe is that sometimes it seems to come off a bit heavy handed and preachy. 

In much the same way The Venture Bros and Futurama can go over the top at times. At least it doesn't look like it was drawn by kids at the local daycare facility, like 12 oz mouse.  I probably would like Tom Goes To The Mayor if they put as much effort into how it looks as say, The Boondocks, or at least Family Guy...

Fixed.

[pyro]

also, who hates Boondocks?  The show is ok.

I guess it doesn't seem like anyone on here, but I always see people saying how horrible it is on myspleen... but they tend to mostly favor the ADD shows.


Also for what it's worth I don't entirely agree with the politics of it either, but I still think it's one of the greatest shows on TV.  The xbox killer episode was pure genius regardless of opinions on the topic

[Thom_Serveaux]

I was just trying to clarify an earlier misunderstanding that sometimes it (Boondocks) can come of as a bit preachy.  and that Venture bros and Futrama are anything but...

[Andrew1911]

I was just trying to clarify an earlier misunderstanding that sometimes it (Boondocks) can come of as a bit preachy.  and that Venture bros and Futrama are anything but...

Futurama wasn't made by Williams Street... Venture Bros.? Over the top? When?

[daltysmilth]

I haven't really watched adult swim since moving back home and therefore no longer having cable.  But I will say I never liked the Venture Brothers and I probably never will.  Most of the humor just misses the mark with me.  And it seems like they favor the easy, obvious jokes rather than more subtle, intellectual humor.

The best adult swim shows, in my opinion, were the original lineup of Space Ghost, the Brak Show (first season only), ATHF, Sealab 2021 (before the guy that played the Captain died), and the first few episodes of Harvey Birdman.

[Thom_Serveaux]

Futurama wasn't made by Williams Street...

Didn't say that it was...

[pyro]

And it seems like they favor the easy, obvious jokes rather than more subtle, intellectual humor.

Define easy and obvious though, I'm not sure how many people actually got the joke "Look!  I'm a member of the Residents!"

[Pak-Man]

I didn't get it. :^)

The reason I watch Adult Swim now is the same reason I watched the original lineup: I loves me some weird. :^) Adult Swim still knows how to bring some strangeness to the table, and there's no other network out there that has anything remotely like anything they bring to the table (Unless they got it from another table. :^)).

I know what you mean about the old lineup, though. The Brak Show was and still is my personal fav AS show, but it wasn't "Edgy" enough for the masses to want to watch, so it had to get pulled. Sealab died with Hank Goz, voice of Captain Murphy, Birdman just went down for the reasons I gave in the Birdman thread, and Space Ghost is on perpetual Hiatus (There's always one or two episodes brewing... Not that that's anything new for Space Ghost. :^)) At least Aqua Teen Hunger Force is alive and well, and there've been a few awesome shows that have stepped up to the plate then. Squidbillies feels kinda like an Aqua Teens in the south once you get in to it, Frisky Dingo captures the very soul that Sealab gave up and gives it structure, and I don't expect anyone here to understand why I like 12 Oz. Mouse. It's like Twin Peaks and Lost had a cartoon baby that turned out really, REALLY weird. (There IS a plot in there somewhere, and we'll figure it out some day!) And The Venture Brothers rivals anything on the original lineup. I'm still on friendly terms with Adult Swim programming and I'm eagerly anticipating Saul of the Mole Men, and cautiously anticipating Tim and Eric's Awesome Show: Great Job.

[gbeenie]

And it seems like they favor the easy, obvious jokes rather than more subtle, intellectual humor.

Define easy and obvious though, I'm not sure how many people actually got the joke "Look!  I'm a member of the Residents!"

Exactly. A show with references to Lydia Lunch and Klaus Nomi can hardly be accused of being "obvious."

[Andrew1911]

Futurama wasn't made by Williams Street...

Didn't say that it was...

You complained about it being over the top at times yet since it isn't made by anyone at Williams Street nor can they attempt to fix the problem since the series has been cancelled at Fox, it's not a valid complaint.

[Andrew1911]

And it seems like they favor the easy, obvious jokes rather than more subtle, intellectual humor.

Define easy and obvious though, I'm not sure how many people actually got the joke "Look!  I'm a member of the Residents!"

Or people getting the Major Tom dialouge being part of the lyrics from Space Oddity than topping that one off with Ashes to Ashes, a reference to a song about Major Tom again from the Bowster.

[gbeenie]

And it seems like they favor the easy, obvious jokes rather than more subtle, intellectual humor.

Define easy and obvious though, I'm not sure how many people actually got the joke "Look!  I'm a member of the Residents!"

Or people getting the Major Tom dialouge being part of the lyrics from Space Oddity than topping that one off with Ashes to Ashes, a reference to a song about Major Tom again from the Bowster.

Don't forget the second-season finale, with its villains' showdown pitting David Bowie against Klaus Nomi and Iggy Pop (and they've ALL got super-powers!).

[pyro]

I didn't get it. :^)

Well, if you still need any help, take a look to my left   


Fun fact since I've got nothing better to do than take this even more off topic:  The Residents did the music for the sleepover episode of PeeWee Herman (I flipped when I read their names in the credits)....  if you watched for the music credit it was usually someone really cool like them or Dweezil Zappa & Steve Vai, or Danny Eflman or something...