What did we learn?
I learned that Dinosaurs find lawyers tasty.
Now THIS seems a bit preemptive.
Quote from: Insert Coin(s) to Continue on February 04, 2008, 10:55:14 PM
Now THIS seems a bit preemptive.
I learned that this tread could be considered preemptive.
I also learned that if you are going to spend a lot of gorgeous special effects, please hire actors who can act.
Quote from: PSLOwner on February 05, 2008, 06:00:34 AM
Quote from: Insert Coin(s) to Continue on February 04, 2008, 10:55:14 PM
Now THIS seems a bit preemptive.
I learned that this tread could be considered preemptive.
I also learned that if you are going to spend a lot of gorgeous special effects, please hire actors who can act.
Or directors who can direct, at least. Thinking mostly of Lucas when I say that, but SeƱor Spielbergo falls into the category as well... taking actors who are normally at least decent at performing, and turning them into mush.
It bothers me how awesome this movie could have been with better directing and acting.
Quote from: PSLOwner on February 05, 2008, 07:36:27 AM
It bothers me how awesome this movie could have been with better directing and acting.
Doesn't that go for most movies? There are some that the writing is completely awful, but we have seen bad dialogue matched with good acting work out anyway.
You mean it wasn't awesome already? When did this movie become bad?
I learned that messing with nature doesn't really cause any problems in this movie. Having a disloyal employee who commits what is essentially an act of terrorism is the major problem. Stamp those out and your Dino Park should be a go!
I learned that theoretical mathematicians are super cool and worldly, wear leather jackets, and are ultra suave with the ladies, who positively swoon when you over simplify complex theories for them (a phenomenon also on display in Rise of the Silver Surfer).
I also learned that an impact strong enough to completely level a small building- say, a toilet- isn't strong enough to break ribs or snap vertebra of people who are hit by the same impact at the same time.
I learned not to mess with Mother Nature or she will set fire to rainforests. Oh..wait...it was Batman and Robin that taught me that.
I learned that people will call a movie bad just on the basis it is a rifftrax. The acting is fantastic in this movie...
I learned that you should build your dinosaur safari park in Costa Rica so you don't have to deal with minor issues like basic safety procedures.
I learned that a park that has numerous points of security and as modern of a containment system as possible thinks the best way to transport a dangerous, carnivorous, animal into it is by the way of an oversized Petmate and a few Marlboro Men.
Quote from: FBX on February 05, 2008, 05:12:28 PM
I learned that people will call a movie bad just on the basis it is a rifftrax. The acting is fantastic in this movie...
I learned that this crops up at least once on every board.
I learned that 3 of 4 DVD players in my house won't make it to the end of the library's copy of JP. :grr:
Also, it's important to breed really really dangerous dinosaurs for your park. Then once you have them, put them in an enclosure so safe that you can't actually see into it. Because people will totally buy 'no really, that's the sound of a velociraptor. I know you can't see them, but they're just so dangerous you'll just have to take my word for it that they're in there.'
If you can channel the spirit of Shatner , you too can survive a dinosaur attack and maybe just bust a leg.
Quote from: Indomitus on February 05, 2008, 06:16:07 PM
Quote from: FBX on February 05, 2008, 05:12:28 PM
I learned that people will call a movie bad just on the basis it is a rifftrax. The acting is fantastic in this movie...
I learned that this crops up at least once on every board.
Not on the Star Wars Holiday Special. :^)
I learned that when I open up my Dinosaur based theme park, I will not stock it with dangerous man eaters that will get loose during the first power outage.
I also learned that the fate of a multi-billion dollar industry rides on the opinions of two minor bone dusters and one smug mathametician.
I learned that over weight hackers are better at hacking than driving :rimshot:
I learned that "spare no expense" doesn't apply to programmers. Or storm shelters, so every time a storm comes in everyone except a few guys has to leave the island....
Oh, and that evolution continues after a species is extinct... When Dr. Grant says "you can't suppress 65 million years of evolution", if he was referring to the evolution of the T-rex it should have been hundreds of millions of years (all the dinos that came before it). Probably a focus group thing, don't put different big numbers in the movie or people will get confused, just make everything 65 million years...
I learned that meat-eaters eat meat. So plan on them doing whatever it takes to get said meat.
Oh, and plan for failure.
I learned that bathrooms are somehow readily available on an automatic track tour even though you're not supposed to exit the vehicles.
I learned that, despite how cool it was, it's probably not a good idea to resurrect the T-Rex from extinction. There's a reason it became extinct and we should just leave it at that.
I also learned that if we ever do bring dinosaurs back, they will somehow be able to survive in our modern ecosystem as opposed to the ecosystem that existed millions of years ago (ie: oxygen concentration, air pressure, humidity, modern plantlife, etc).
I learned that splicing DNA from frogs is the key to making modern dinosaurs, despite the fact that dinosaurs are more related to birds then they are to reptiles or amphibians.
I learned that I should have skipped more classes in college. Chaos theory is really just about some water and butterflies. It's also a big turn on! I betcha string theory can be explained with some duct tape and a sports jacket. I'll probably be forced to marry the guy who explains that to me.
Mathematicians really just need to be sarcastic and condescending and don't need any of that pesky "math" stuff at all.
We should probably rethink installing an incredibly advanced power grid at the zoo, especially one located a few miles from administration. It may sound like a good idea, but perhaps one or two switches located on a wall fairly close-by would be a better than about 30 switches and a primer located practically off site.
I learned that every child in a Spielberg movie is a horrible screaming brat who deserves a good beating.
Oh, and never fool with Mother Nature.
I also learned that ALL Austrailian men wear tiny upsetting shorts with no sense of shame what-so-ever.
Quote from: AmandaGal on February 06, 2008, 01:16:31 PM
I learned that I should have skipped more classes in college. Chaos theory is really just about some water and butterflies. It's also a big turn on! I betcha string theory can be explained with some duct tape and a sports jacket. I'll probably be forced to marry the guy who explains that to me.
Be careful, that particular explanation of string theory is illegal in several states.
It's diiiiirty.
I learned that 'Filthy Muppet Innuendo' is, indeed, a great band name.
Mr.S's Trademark, PEOPLE LOOKING! :D
Quote from: RoninFox on February 06, 2008, 01:12:38 PM
I learned that splicing DNA from frogs is the key to making modern dinosaurs, despite the fact that dinosaurs are more related to birds then they are to reptiles or amphibians.
This one was explained in the book, but the science behind it is now a bit outdated. There are large parts of the DNA chain that are common to all species and seem to do nothing (junk DNA), so they used frog DNA to fill in those parts. I think back then only frog and maybe fruit fly DNA had been completely sequenced. Now they are finding these parts might be more important than previously thought.
I think the movie was better than the book (book got very boring and preachy in the middle), for JPII reverse it, the book was way better than the movie...
I learned that Computer Engineers are allowed to smoke non-stop in a control room filled with highly sensitive, multi-million dollar, mostly experimental equipment.
I learned that pink polo shirts should NEVER be used as a uniform.
I learned that big game hunters are completely inept when dealing with astoundingly smart pack hunters like Velociraptors.
I learned that short, rich old men with a limp are much less suited for reconnaissance than young, fit, strong women. Thank you, Dr. Sattler. I had no idea.
I have a question about the book vs movie. I read the book in sixth grade, so don't remember anything about it, but here we go:
A) In the movie, do they ever solve the "Mystery" of the sick triceratops? I don't recall them mentioning it again.
B) Was this covered in more detail in the book? If so, what was the cause and why was it important other than a chance to show the dinosaurs up close without them eating anyone.
Quote from: Conor on February 07, 2008, 08:44:43 AM
I have a question about the book vs movie. I read the book in sixth grade, so don't remember anything about it, but here we go:
A) In the movie, do they ever solve the "Mystery" of the sick triceratops? I don't recall them mentioning it again.
B) Was this covered in more detail in the book? If so, what was the cause and why was it important other than a chance to show the dinosaurs up close without them eating anyone.
The subject was explained in the book, but it's been so darn long since I read it that I can't remember the details, but yes, it does factor heavily in the Dinosaurs' survival. It all has to do with the DNA restructuring and the use of frog DNA that causes it, I think.
Dr. Sattler realizes that the trike's pupils are dilated, and attributes it to something pharmacological. She suspects it's the local plant life, but it is then determined that the dinos weren't eating the poisonous lilac berries, which was an excuse to see a mountain of dino shit.
Just read the book again. It's SOOO much better than the movie. ;)
Quote from: kodiakthejuggler on February 07, 2008, 08:55:18 AM
Just read the book again. It's SOOO much better than the movie. ;)
I think that was the actual tagline for The Lost World : Jurassic Park 2
It has also been some time since I read the book (I read it about 2 years before the movie originally came out), but if memory serves, it turned out that the dinos WERE eating the poisonous plants, but since they were following a migratory pattern all over their portion of the island, they didn't crap the fruit evidence out until they reached another part of the island... by the time they reached the area with the berries again, they had already crapped out all of the evidence elsewhere and the poison was in their system. Or something like that.
Quote from: kodiakthejuggler on February 07, 2008, 08:55:18 AM
Dr. Sattler realizes that the trike's pupils are dilated, and attributes it to something pharmacological. She suspects it's the local plant life, but it is then determined that the dinos weren't eating the poisonous lilac berries, which was an excuse to see a mountain of dino shit.
Funny, when she noted the dilated pupils in the movie I suspected something pharmacological too. Something along the lines of the massive dose of tranquilizers the worker said they gave it in the previous line, for example.
That's about the gist of it Chaos but in the book, wasn't it a stegosaurus?
Quote from: AmandaGal on February 07, 2008, 09:50:19 AM
That's about the gist of it Chaos but in the book, wasn't it a stegosaurus?
Yes, that's right. I guess they decided that many spikes would be too hard to build on their full-sized model. Or that 3 head spikes were "cooler" than tail spikes.
Quote from: Conor on February 07, 2008, 08:44:43 AM
I have a question about the book vs movie. I read the book in sixth grade, so don't remember anything about it, but here we go:
A) In the movie, do they ever solve the "Mystery" of the sick triceratops? I don't recall them mentioning it again.
B) Was this covered in more detail in the book? If so, what was the cause and why was it important other than a chance to show the dinosaurs up close without them eating anyone.
Thanks alot Conor.......now I have to go back and re-read the book again. ;D
Quote from: Natureboy on February 07, 2008, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: Conor on February 07, 2008, 08:44:43 AM
I have a question about the book vs movie. I read the book in sixth grade, so don't remember anything about it, but here we go:
A) In the movie, do they ever solve the "Mystery" of the sick triceratops? I don't recall them mentioning it again.
B) Was this covered in more detail in the book? If so, what was the cause and why was it important other than a chance to show the dinosaurs up close without them eating anyone.
Thanks alot Conor.......now I have to go back and re-read the book again. ;D
I'm going to have to get out my copy and look it over, if you skip over the long speeches by Malcolm it is better than the movie:
The dinos trying to instinctively migrate, the mystery as to who the thief is (totally blown at the start of the movie), the baby raptors getting onto the boat as it leaves for the mainland.....
Ok, it's also been approximately 15 years since I read the book (yikes) but might the sick trike be related to the lysine deficiency?
I also remember the book mentioning the stegosaurs were swallowing stones then regurgitating them later, the stones helping them break down plant matter in their stomach. This was how they were eating the berries, that were mixed in with the stones.
The sick Stego was really because of the berries. I always get mad because the movie doesn't explain it.
I've read JP approximately one million times. I was a lonely High Schooler. As I was telling the folks in the chat room, my friends and I used to get together at lunch and actively debate the science in Michael Crichton books :)
See, I told them some day it would come in handy.
Has anyone looked into the 'recreating dinosaurs' show that Discovery Channel has been hyping?
Quote from: Conor on February 07, 2008, 08:44:43 AM
I have a question about the book vs movie. I read the book in sixth grade, so don't remember anything about it, but here we go:
A) In the movie, do they ever solve the "Mystery" of the sick triceratops? I don't recall them mentioning it again.
B) Was this covered in more detail in the book? If so, what was the cause and why was it important other than a chance to show the dinosaurs up close without them eating anyone.
I think it was a prelude to the dinosaurs changing sex so that "life can find a way." Every 6 months they get sick while trying to push out a penis.
I learned that, convieniently, the prehistroic mosquitos were nice enough to sample the blood of the "more popular" dinosaurs and then let themselves be trapped in amber.
I also learned that a slowly moving turntable for the theater needs the lap-bars but cars driving around a park filled with dangerous, multi-ton, sometimes carnivorous animals don't need locks.
I also learned that despite being without power for 12 hours walk-in freezers still have ice and, er.. "cold fog vapor" in them.
Oh, and inGen uses computers designed for eunuchs.
Quote from: hare.29 on February 05, 2008, 06:21:15 PM
Also, it's important to breed really really dangerous dinosaurs for your park. Then once you have them, put them in an enclosure so safe that you can't actually see into it. Because people will totally buy 'no really, that's the sound of a velociraptor. I know you can't see them, but they're just so dangerous you'll just have to take my word for it that they're in there.'
And to keep them in use use thin electrified wires, instead of thick steel bars, because everyone knows electricity is just as reliable as bars....
Anyone else notice that the electric cars that supposedly run off that track thing didn't seem to have any connection to the track?
Here's your battery powered cars.... What, how are they supposed to get stranded when the power goes out? Oh, sorry, we'll just put this track in the road and hope no one notices....
Did they ever mention in the film how they brought back all the extinct plants? I realise it isn't as exciting as the dinosaurs, but if they did mention it I didn't notice. You'd think a paleobotanist would be interested wouldn't you?
Quote from: Redclaire on February 10, 2008, 11:15:38 AM
Did they ever mention in the film how they brought back all the extinct plants? I realise it isn't as exciting as the dinosaurs, but if they did mention it I didn't notice. You'd think a paleobotanist would be interested wouldn't you?
Well, the mosquitos also sucked the sap from the trees and they used tree frog DNA to fill in the holes and....... oh, wait. I think they just kind of forgot about that.
Quote from: PSLOwner on February 10, 2008, 11:34:25 AM
Well, the mosquitos also sucked the sap from the trees and they used tree frog DNA to fill in the holes and....... oh, wait. I think they just kind of forgot about that.
Man! Those were some Vicious Mosquitoes suckin Tree Sap back in those days.. :P
I noticed that "where'd the plants come from" thing the first time I watched it, back when I was 9. I've always thought it was an irredeemable flaw in the film.
I don't think Crichton ever mentioned it. I guess he figured people would be more interested in the dinosaurs than the plants.
QuoteI noticed that "where'd the plants come from" thing the first time I watched it, back when I was 9. I've always thought it was an irredeemable flaw in the film.
I noticed that, too. I was hoping for a riff about it.
The thing I noticed when I first watched it, and has irritated me ever since, is how bad of a decision to make all of the dinosaurs FEMALE. Then all you need is one mistake, and he impregnates all the rest of the females of his species. Rather than making them all males, and then one mistake results in only one pregnant dinosaur.
There was something about that in the book, I think. Or maybe I dreamed about this when I read the book and later remembered it as part of the actual book...
They decided to make them all female because of the whole "all eggs start off female thing," it's easier to leave them all that way than to turn them all into males, and they figured that males are more aggressive than females, so better to have them all females than all males. Ian made some kind of comment about this, because of course as we all know, in nature the female is often even more territorial, aggressive, and dominant than the males.
I swear they mentioned it in the books, how the plants came back. I could be wrong though. Plants get caught in amber too.
As for the female thing, there's no way to "make a mistake" if you're cloning. You're not going to accidentally bake up a Y chromosome and toss it in there. With reptiles though, it's not as clear cut as with mammals as to what is "male" and what is "female."
But, according to the way Crichton explained it, if it really as clear cut as XY=male, XX=female, It would actually be much easier to mess up if you were making males, because you'd be "adding" something to the recipe so to speak. Commonly, the frogs that change sex are actually some variant of XY and they can turn that Y gene off and on depending on environmental pressures but they've found frogs with male sex characteristics who were XX too.
There are some reptiles that actually do clone themselves (it's more common in insects) and all the clones are female. They never screw up ;) It's called parthenogenesis. They're typically just X if they were born from cloning. If they are born from a male, they're XY. Of course, that's oversimplified. There's more than just the X & the Y that go into it.
Yeah, I saw a thing on that- These little lizards, each one a clone of the other, giving birth to clones.
Evolution just hasn't given them any obstacles that they themselves couldn't overcome as they are.
If one tries to stand out, by getting a piercing or a new hairstyle, they ritualistically kill it.
When threatened, they form themselves into a giant Mega Lizard, where they can, by combining their life force, form a light sword that can cut through steel.
Quiz time: at what point did the pain killers kick in?
I learned that mathematicians are truly the rockstars of our era. Just take a look at the father of the Strange Attractor theory, Edward Lorenz:
There is one problem to lesbian living, once you get about 10 generation of clones in, the offspring start to experience large die off and for the ones who do survive, fecundity (basically, number of eggs laid) decreases drastically. That's with animals that do have males (like some insects, they'll mate with a boy if one is one is around otherwise they'll just have babies on their own). It's believed to be due to lack of genetic diversity. I hear that is a problem in the South too.
I used to be caretaker to a big group of parthenogenic insects and they experienced die off. We traded papers and email for a long time to figure out what was going on, even though everyone kept saying, "You know it's got to the be genetic defects." We finally found some concrete studies.
Interestingly, the lizards are truly assexual. They've done some studies in zoos where they had them in isolation, and after so many generations, the same thing happens that happens with the insects. However, when they study them in groups, the girls mate with and court each other (sounds like lizard porn) and somehow, that makes the offspring stronger and makes the female lay a greater number of them. They think it's perhaps more hormonal than genetic.
Moral of the story: It's better to just eliminate men all together than to prefer chicks to men ;) Only kidding.
Quote from: AmandaGal on February 10, 2008, 08:04:18 PM
Moral of the story: It's better to just eliminate men all together than to prefer chicks to men
>:( Boo! Hiss!
I don't think I like this moral..
Maybe they get the DNA from fossils (via some immaculate means)? Thats what you do in Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis... Would explain bringing plants back as well as why Hammond was funding a Grant's dig.
Quote from: FBX on February 10, 2008, 11:03:04 PM
Maybe they get the DNA from fossils (via some immaculate means)? Thats what you do in Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis... Would explain bringing plants back as well as why Hammond was funding a Grant's dig.
The only problem there is there's no original material whatsoever in a fossil. It's all replaced by mineral, just done so in such a way that the original shape is maintained. That's what a fossil is. So... no DNA. Unless you plan to clone a rock.
time for me to say something stupid ;D
couldn't they get it from the sap surrounding the mosquito?
Quote from: jacobtaylor on February 11, 2008, 12:03:08 PM
couldn't they get it from the sap surrounding the mosquito?
Sure, except that 1) amber is fossilized sap and therefore contains no DNA, and 2) ferns a "brush" plants don't produce sap that fossilizes anyway, only tree sap does that. If you managed to find unfossilized sap you could theoretically clone the trees, but that still wouldn't get you the plants.
Sorry to respond to your joke question with a serious answer... that's just how I roll. ;)
Quote from: Indomitus on February 11, 2008, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: FBX on February 10, 2008, 11:03:04 PM
Maybe they get the DNA from fossils (via some immaculate means)? Thats what you do in Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis... Would explain bringing plants back as well as why Hammond was funding a Grant's dig.
The only problem there is there's no original material whatsoever in a fossil. It's all replaced by mineral, just done so in such a way that the original shape is maintained. That's what a fossil is. So... no DNA. Unless you plan to clone a rock.
Thats what I meant by immaculate.
I swear the book said something about leaves and such getting caught in amber too, which is theoretically possible.
Doesn't it seem like cloning plants would be:
A) pointless and expensive
B) Potentially more dangerous to the ecosystem. Since a different species of plant could overtake existing flora and be a lot harder to eliminate than large easy to spot lizards?
It was an ill considered idea with no sound science to back it up, and no importance to the movie itself. About sums it up, I think.
I learned that Nedry is a ridiculously usubtle name for a computer nerd.
I still think it is funny that years ago, when my father watched the movie for the first time, he thaught that Hammond and Nedry were father and son, because Nedry says "Thanks, Dad!" when he is being scolded about his finacial problems.
I learned that Weird Al Yankovic is even cooler than I thaught!
Quote from: Darth Geek on February 11, 2008, 09:21:40 PM
I learned that Weird Al Yankovic is even cooler than I thaught!
As cool as a nerd can possibly be. :)
Quote from: Junkyard on February 11, 2008, 09:10:35 PM
It was an ill considered idea with no sound science to back it up, and no importance to the movie itself. About sums it up, I think.
I learned that Nedry is a ridiculously usubtle name for a computer nerd.
I could make up some sciency stuff to back it up though. Crichton is good at that. Lemme try to play Michael Crichton.
Many animals, especially insects but some mammals (pandas, for example) are highly dependent on a particular plant species for survival. They're called "specialists." If you were to clone and bring back a specialist herbivore, you would naturally have to clone and bring back the plant that they lived with and that supported their life. Imagine cloning a panda and not bringing back bamboo. Those fellas would be dead in no time, lysine or not. Now, imagine if the dinosaurs were highly specialized in their eating habits. Today's plants would naturally be different nutritionally than their plants and their bodies might not be made to break them down.
Imagine if humans were brought back into the dinosaur age. I don't think our bodies would necessarily be able to break those down plants. Not being a paleobotanist myself, I don't really know much about the difference but I do remember from botany class that cell walls of prehistoric plants were different and that would have a lot to do with the way they were broken down in the body. I would assume that we wouldn't get as much nutrition from them because our systems aren't designed to break down those types of cell walls.
That being said, some of the plants were poisonous and the gases in the environment are different so you'd think the plants would be different nutritionally anyway. But, it's fun to BS :)
As for plants taking over the naturally species, that's a good point and I think Ellie eluded to that with her, "These are living organisms...they'll fight to defend themselves." speech.
Humans are omnivores, there probably would be some plants we could eat, and most of the animals would be edible. We don't currently have a problem digesting birds and reptiles, so I don't think we would have a problem eating dinos.
Better example would be sending any current grazing animals back (horses, cows, sheep, etc.), no grasses for them to eat. The first grasses popped up around 50 million years ago.
I haven't found my copy of the book, and I don't remember them talking about how they made the plants. If you belive the DNA from mosquitoes in amber trick is possible then there would be plenty of pollens in and on bugs. The oldest bee found in amber is 80 million years old, so they would be a good source of pollen with the genetic codes for the plants.
I think this also brings up another problem with JP, I remember someone cataloging the dinos and some of them went extinct before the oldest amber we have found. The oldest amber people have found with bugs in it is around 90 million years old. Actually it kills the name of the park, since the Jurassic period ended 144 million years ago, I guess Cretaceous Park didn't sound as catchy....
Quote from: MartyS (Gromit) on February 11, 2008, 10:24:49 PM
Humans are omnivores, there probably would be some plants we could eat, and most of the animals would be edible. We don't currently have a problem digesting birds and reptiles, so I don't think we would have a problem eating dinos.
That's true. We are far from specialists. We'll consume anything and live anywhere. I wouldn't want to go on a dino hunt though. ;)
Of course, if you're going to start conversations about the feasibility of amber preservation based on the oldest extant sample deposits, would it then also be appropriate to mention the fact that the dilophosaurus NEVER EXISTED AND WAS MADE UP FOR THE BOOK? ;)
maybe the plants were indigenious to the park ;D
Quote from: Chaos on February 12, 2008, 05:35:12 AM
Of course, if you're going to start conversations about the feasibility of amber preservation based on the oldest extant sample deposits, would it then also be appropriate to mention the fact that the dilophosaurus NEVER EXISTED AND WAS MADE UP FOR THE BOOK? ;)
Dilophosaurus did exist, the only thing they got right was the head shape with the crests, in the movie they were too small (should have been 20 feet long) and there's no basis in science for the fanned out display or the spitting. They are one of the early Jurassic dinos that would need amber several times as old as the oldest found in order to bring it back.
Quote from: Conor on February 07, 2008, 08:44:43 AMA) In the movie, do they ever solve the "Mystery" of the sick triceratops? I don't recall them mentioning it again.
B) Was this covered in more detail in the book? If so, what was the cause and why was it important other than a chance to show the dinosaurs up close without them eating anyone.
Just read that chapter again, it was a stegosaurus in the book, and the reason it happened every six weeks was gizzard stones. Like many birds and retiles they ate stones that they used in their gizzards to grind up food, every six weeks they would regurgitate the stones because they were worn out and eat new ones, that's when they would accidentally eat the lilac berries that were on the ground with the rocks.
so why weren't the berries in the droppings?
Quote from: Tyrant on February 06, 2008, 01:10:55 PM
I learned that bathrooms are somehow readily available on an automatic track tour even though you're not supposed to exit the vehicles.
I learned that, despite how cool it was, it's probably not a good idea to resurrect the T-Rex from extinction. There's a reason it became extinct and we should just leave it at that.
I also learned that if we ever do bring dinosaurs back, they will somehow be able to survive in our modern ecosystem as opposed to the ecosystem that existed millions of years ago (ie: oxygen concentration, air pressure, humidity, modern plantlife, etc).
They actually did address that in the movie. One of the Triceratops got sick from eating modern plants. As for the other bits, I assume those are taken care of by the bullfrog DNA used to fill in gaps.
Quote from: FBX on February 15, 2008, 07:19:52 PM
so why weren't the berries in the droppings?
Checking the droppings was only mentioned very breifly in the book, Ellie just took the vets word for it, she never inspected it. The book said since they are constantly eating if they were eating the berries they would constantly be sick, and they also observed them on video a lot and they never ate the plants.
The movie and book really are compleatly different, only the names and the basic outline of the story are the same. In the book the chaper we are talking about was also the one where they find a dino egg shell and find out the dinos are breeding.
I learned never to go to Effingham's Taco Bell. Now that city is known by me as both "The place with the big cross, and That place that has the really bad Taco Bell".
I learned to never employ anyone fatter than Drew Carey on my computer system.
I cite Michael J Nelson, who says "The awesome and unpredictable forces of nature will not be controlled by man.".
I learned something very important today.
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These two REALLY ARE related!
I wonder if they were created in the laboratory, yet separated at birth?
The fat one does look a little like Danny Devito... >:D
We learned that messing with nature is perfectly fine (hey, it's the reason YOU'RE alive past thirty); it's hiring cast members of Seinfeld that gets you in trouble every time (just ask that comedy club that hired Michael Richards!).
I learned to forego the expensive adult help and when in peril, just sit a tween nerd girl at the computer and she will fix everything up real nice now. And cheap..
I learned that ice cream will soothe the pain of murder around you.