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Title: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Leopold_Stotch on March 14, 2007, 06:00:15 PM
What does everyone think? I thought it was a horribly depressing film, whose only redeeming factor was... was... hold on, it's coming!
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: ChrisHanel on March 14, 2007, 06:15:04 PM
...the fun I'm going to have making the Rifftrax DVD cover for my collection.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: BathTub on March 15, 2007, 04:53:00 AM
Well I just watched this a few hours before work and I actually quite enjoyed it. You've got some parts that are quite fun, and a nice little twist at the end.

Talk to the hand!
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: gammer on March 15, 2007, 04:59:27 AM
I found it to be boring...for a Terminator movie. It felt all to similar to T2 only not as good.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: AvestheFox on March 15, 2007, 05:01:53 AM
In the end, everything goes Boom! Boom! Big pretty clouds n' stuff

Me liked!
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: macleod on March 15, 2007, 07:06:10 AM
Well...I didn't think the acting (non arnold) was bad....and this John Connor was WAY WAY WAY less irritating than the damn kid in T2...

Seriously, go re-watch T2, there's about 500 pubescent voice cracking shrilly screams
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Leopold_Stotch on March 15, 2007, 07:25:36 AM
It totally contradicted the events of T2 though, I wonder what will happen in T4 or other movies about complex iodine molecules! :P
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: MarkAndrew on March 15, 2007, 09:12:28 AM
Quote from: gammer on March 15, 2007, 04:59:27 AM
I found it to be boring...for a Terminator movie. It felt all to similar to T2 only not as good.

No Eddie Furlong though!
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: PsypherPunk on March 15, 2007, 10:08:56 AM
All I remember was thinking, toward the end, isn't that flying-thing a little small? Remember the hovering gunships from the first two films? Doesn't one of them fly over our heroes at the end and is about the size of a tricycle?

Introducing the new iHK Nano!
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Sideswipe on March 15, 2007, 10:12:42 AM
I found this movie mildly entertaining, but it never should have been made.  Like Leopold_Stotch said, there were a lot of contradictions that bugged me, and the movie never offered any explanations.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: BathTub on March 15, 2007, 10:17:03 AM
They were initial models/prototypes of what was the come, you had the tracked and the flying HunterKillers in their Proto-forms.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Minnesota on March 15, 2007, 10:47:30 AM
I liked the movie a lot, although I thought the actor that played John Connor did a good job, would've preferred them to use Edward Ferlong for continuities sake
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Tyrant on March 15, 2007, 01:36:50 PM

   Loved the movie. Love the Terminator series. It's nice sci-fi/action-y commentary on the concept of fate (wrote a college essay about it, even for Freshman Comp 2). Pak and I also saw it the very day Arnold got voted into office for CA. I can't wait for this one.

   
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: macleod on March 16, 2007, 02:57:09 AM
Quote from: Minnesota on March 15, 2007, 10:47:30 AM
I liked the movie a lot, although I thought the actor that played John Connor did a good job, would've preferred them to use Edward Ferlong for continuities sake

I think he dropped off the radar a long time before they made this thing
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Minnesota on March 16, 2007, 05:32:55 AM
Ed was cool in Brain Scan and Pecker, I'd of liked to see him revise the role, would've really amped the movie up in my opinion (It couldnt of been for budjet concerns, they spent like 180 million on T3, they could've thrown enough money at Eddie to get him to do it)
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on March 16, 2007, 05:53:12 AM
Quote from: MarkAndrew on March 15, 2007, 09:12:28 AM
Quote from: gammer on March 15, 2007, 04:59:27 AM
I found it to be boring...for a Terminator movie. It felt all to similar to T2 only not as good.

No Eddie Furlong though!

He was good in American History X, though.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: macleod on March 16, 2007, 07:27:09 AM
I forgot about that....he was VERY good in American History X...though still pathetic compared to Ed Norton in that film
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: MrTorso on March 16, 2007, 07:33:47 AM
I haven't seen the films since it first came to DVD. All I can remember about it was that it just seemed like it was just a set-up to a 4th film. I have no recollection of major plot points at all. At least it was still rated R. I bet a 4th film will be PG-13.

Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Minnesota on March 16, 2007, 08:03:43 AM
naw, it ended the series rather logically dude. No chance for a sequel.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: MrTorso on March 16, 2007, 11:52:20 AM
Quote from: Minnesota on March 16, 2007, 08:03:43 AM
naw, it ended the series rather logically dude. No chance for a sequel.

Really....??  I can't remember squat about it.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: JonnyFrag on March 16, 2007, 11:59:51 AM
Since when has a sequel needed logic to proceed?

And this really cost $180 million? Wow, way to not let it show up on screen. I really thought it was way underfunded vs T2. But then again, I imagine like $40 mil was just to Ahnold anyway.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: zaxxon25 on March 16, 2007, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: Isaac on March 16, 2007, 05:53:12 AM
Quote from: MarkAndrew on March 15, 2007, 09:12:28 AM
Quote from: gammer on March 15, 2007, 04:59:27 AM
I found it to be boring...for a Terminator movie. It felt all to similar to T2 only not as good.

No Eddie Furlong though!

He was good in American History X, though.

How quickly we forget Pet Sematary 2 ...
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Minnesota on March 16, 2007, 12:09:45 PM
Quote from: JonnyFrag on March 16, 2007, 11:59:51 AM
Since when has a sequel needed logic to proceed?

And this really cost $180 million?

indeed logic does not a sequel need ;D

yup, its on the dvd somewhere but I forgot either disk 2 or the comentary track. Lord knows the "total" cost after you factor in promotions and advertising

edit: actually scratch that first part, I think I read it online somewhere, I'll do a search for it
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Shinigami on March 16, 2007, 12:41:10 PM
Ed Furlong was too busy freeing lobsters to make this movie.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: MrTorso on March 16, 2007, 12:46:31 PM
Quote from: Shinigami on March 16, 2007, 12:41:10 PM
Ed Furlong was too busy freeing lobsters to make this movie.

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Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: LadyKenobi on March 17, 2007, 06:16:19 AM
Quotealthough I thought the actor that played John Connor did a good job,

Pretty cute, too.  I'd do him (ducks).

RE:  set up for next movie... Last line is "The battle had just begun."  OF COURSE they meant for another one-- the rebellion, the robot trying to kill the leader on that specific date?  Come on, just think of the plastic cups you could SuperSize to with that one!

And can I just add that the scene where Claire Danes cries over her fiance is completely whack?  She's not crying because he's dead, but because she feels guilty that it happened "because of her."  Seriously, re-watch it.  His extreme douchiness aside, that part bugged.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Bob on March 17, 2007, 08:02:58 AM
Couldnt they very easily do a fourth movie and it will be about what all three other movies kept talking about but never showed except in brief flashbacks.......   The humans rising up against the machines?

Now THAT could be a good movie.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Minnesota on March 17, 2007, 08:10:01 AM
Quote from: PSLOwner on March 17, 2007, 08:02:58 AM
Couldnt they very easily do a fourth movie and it will be about what all three other movies kept talking about but never showed except in brief flashbacks.......   The humans rising up against the machines?

Now THAT could be a good movie.

they already made that movie, its called Matrix 3.

honestly though, it would be really hard to make a movie set in the future, it would be just like the matrix sequels and bear little to no resemblems to the previous films...
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on March 17, 2007, 11:09:24 AM
Furlong would have to get rid of his beer-belly to star in any more Terminator flicks.

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It's like he's turned into Al Bundy  :'(
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on March 17, 2007, 11:27:48 AM
Quote from: LadyKenobi on March 17, 2007, 06:16:19 AM
Quotealthough I thought the actor that played John Connor did a good job,

Pretty cute, too.  I'd do him (ducks).

RE:  set up for next movie... Last line is "The battle had just begun."  OF COURSE they meant for another one-- the rebellion, the robot trying to kill the leader on that specific date?  Come on, just think of the plastic cups you could SuperSize to with that one!

And can I just add that the scene where Claire Danes cries over her fiance is completely whack?  She's not crying because he's dead, but because she feels guilty that it happened "because of her."  Seriously, re-watch it.  His extreme douchiness aside, that part bugged.

And she forgot about his ass PDQ.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: gbeenie on March 17, 2007, 11:35:26 AM
Quote from: LadyKenobi on March 17, 2007, 06:16:19 AM

And can I just add that the scene where Claire Danes cries over her fiance is completely whack?  She's not crying because he's dead, but because she feels guilty that it happened "because of her."  Seriously, re-watch it.  His extreme douchiness aside, that part bugged.

Well, in the interest of playing devil's advocate (hey, it's a job, okay?), I would point out that, in a horrible situation like that, one's feelings of sorrow and guilt would probably be pretty mixed up, and likely to commingle.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Sideswipe on March 17, 2007, 11:36:47 AM
Quote from: Minnesota on March 17, 2007, 08:10:01 AM
Quote from: PSLOwner on March 17, 2007, 08:02:58 AM
Couldnt they very easily do a fourth movie and it will be about what all three other movies kept talking about but never showed except in brief flashbacks.......   The humans rising up against the machines?

Now THAT could be a good movie.

they already made that movie, its called Matrix 3.

honestly though, it would be really hard to make a movie set in the future, it would be just like the matrix sequels and bear little to no resemblems to the previous films...


It wouldn't be that difficult, they could build some sets and green screen the rest of it, just like 300.  It doesn't really matter if it doesn't resemble the other movies, it would be recognizeable from the future war sequences in the previous movies.  It wouldn't have to be like the matrix sequels at all if they did it right.  
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: torgosPizza on March 17, 2007, 01:53:07 PM
Judgment day wasn't they end of the world. It was when SkyNet became self-aware and began the war of Man vs. Machine. We never actually see the WHOLE PLANET get blown up.

Besides, if the world had been destroyed at the end, then the terminators would never have been built, and the movie wouldn't exist!  :speechless:
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on March 17, 2007, 04:22:42 PM
Terminator 4 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438488/).
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Bob on March 18, 2007, 03:48:35 AM
Quote from: SecretAgentSuperDragon on March 17, 2007, 04:22:42 PM
Terminator 4 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438488/).

Well, there you go then!

Blue screen heaven.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Sideswipe on March 18, 2007, 07:09:36 AM
Hmm, I take everything IMDB says about unrealesed films witt a grain of salt.  Has anyone heard anything official about this?
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on March 18, 2007, 08:20:57 AM
Movieblog, movieweb, variety are all reporting on it. They say the governator won't be in it though, but might make a cameo.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: MrTorso on March 18, 2007, 08:32:33 AM
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Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on March 18, 2007, 08:35:00 AM
Quote from: MrTorso on March 18, 2007, 08:32:33 AM
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"I'll BE BAACK..........for a double quarter pounder with cheese....."
All you flabby gurly men... ah craaap.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on March 18, 2007, 08:37:06 AM
His torso looks like a half baked cookie when you try to scoop it from the cookie sheet and it scrunches up... you know what I'm talkin' about.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: BathTub on March 18, 2007, 09:43:18 AM
Yet you can guarentee that 60 year old man is probably in better shape (apart from the broken leg) than most the people on this forum.

You see people post that one and the other one at the beach, and laugh at the guy, seemingly forgetting his age, and their own damn bodies.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: MrTorso on March 18, 2007, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: BathTub on March 18, 2007, 09:43:18 AM
Yet you can guarentee that 60 year old man is probably in better shape (apart from the broken leg) than most the people on this forum.

I don't doubt it.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on March 18, 2007, 12:28:56 PM
Quote from: BathTub on March 18, 2007, 09:43:18 AM
Yet you can guarentee that 60 year old man is probably in better shape (apart from the broken leg) than most the people on this forum.

If that's the case then Gawd help us all.  :P
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on March 18, 2007, 02:18:51 PM
yeah poor arny, i dont know why everyone expects him to look like he did 40 years ago lol. 
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: MarkAndrew on March 19, 2007, 12:13:59 PM
I liked it a lot, the only scene that caused me pain* was when the Termantrix-controlled cars suddenly could some how see and control their steering...and I swear one used turn signals.


*apart from the kind of pain you get when Kristina Lokken appears naked on screen and you're sitting kind of funny so your pants are too tight in the....you know what...nuff said.
Title: Re: T3: Rise of the bad scenes
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on March 21, 2007, 09:30:05 AM
Quote from: sarcasm_made_Easy on March 18, 2007, 02:18:51 PM
yeah poor arny, i dont know why everyone expects him to look like he did 40 years ago lol. 

Hehe. Because he's a God of pop culture, and we expect our Gods to be eternal. Since he's known for being  pumped-up!, he's almost not Arnold anymore if he's less than statuesque. It'd be like Elton John suddenly getting a crew cut, some average clothes and deciding to work at an accounting firm.