Could somebody please explain this plot to me? I thought After Last Season was bad, but this...
So there is this guy who runs a doll shop which is a cover for a satanic cult, only they don't really need a cover since they are pretty up front about it, and it's not really a satanic cult since the shop owner does all the mystic miracles with pedals, but on the other hand he can work actual voodoo, with dolls and stuff, which he uses to lure new members, only he will treat them as if they had been there before, and the dolls that look like people only they don't and then they are supposed to look like someone who is not them but looks exactly the same and it's really just astral projection which you don't need a doll for and...
and...
This movie confused me.
Seriously, is there any way to get a chronological series of events from this movie where one action leads logically to the next?
Oh, but I loved the Rifftrax, this kind of bizarre movie seems to lend itself to great riffing!
Yes.
This movie had a plot?
Funny commentary, but I'm totally confused as to what the hell was actually happening in that movie. WHY was Robert Alda do damn special?
There is no plot, the movie was hastily made in order to capitalize on the Bruno VeSota craze.
If thats the case I would have been far more impressed with a Michelle Remembers flick.
To be fair, there are several bits of exposition that the guys talk over and are hard to make out. Like in the dinner date scene where Bianca is explaining about how she found Lamont and Gamba and how she became hot.
Quote from: space_mutiny on June 04, 2011, 03:17:21 PM
There is no plot, the movie was hastily made in order to capitalize on the Bruno VeSota craze.
Beats the hell out of Bieber fever.
Yeah, for a secret cult, they were kinda open about it..... yet they seemed to have a rather mangy collection of followers........ plether sweater vest guy, a pair of dancers, bland older couples and one same sex couple fat guys.
And why everyone was fighting over plether sweater vest guy is anyone;s guess.
Quote from: CJones on June 05, 2011, 12:00:37 PM
To be fair, there are several bits of exposition that the guys talk over and are hard to make out. Like in the dinner date scene where Bianca is explaining about how she found Lamont and Gamba and how she became hot.
Granted, but there is so much that simply does not make sense....
I get the overarching plot: guy falls in with satanic cult, struggles for a bit and then decides he wants to leave, finally saves his girlfriend that had been attacked by the cult and his own soul. So far so good.
What I don't quite understand is why the makers of this movie decided to add so many additional, conflicting elements: the dolls in the dolls shop are obviously supposed to be some type of voodoo dolls. Some questions arise: why leave them out in the open where everyone can see them and their eerie similarity to actual persons? Why leave a doll
with a magic pin stuck through it on display? Why wouldn't someone leaving the cult try to take "their" doll with them (like the fat guy who tried to run)?
Then we get the information that the Evil Hot Girl™ uses the dolls as foci to project her thoughts (and, presumably, ensnare innocent boyfriends). What else are those dolls good for? And why does
no one even wonder "hey, maybe having my image in the hands of a
satanic cult isn't the best idea"?
Then there is the question what the cult is actually up to, what they are trying to achieve in the long term and in the short term: as far as I can tell our hero, Cardigan Man, is picked like other before him to serve as a human sacrifice (Francis references Evil Hot Girl's multiple "brief affairs"). Why induct him into the cult in the first place and not simply tie him down and stab him? The other cult members appear to be fine with human sacrifice, having gone through it many times before! So why all the hassle with recruiting him, testing his loyalty and making his girlfriend sick if he is destined to be a sacrificial offering anyway?
And what are Gamba's powers, exactly? If the cult can really predict horse races and stock index changes, why not use that to their advantage? Contact a crime organization, make them tons of money in exchange for sacrifices! Heck, if these predictions actually worked they could work for the government (semi-seriously: if you had to sacrifice, say, one human being a month to get accurate predictions of all natural disasters and major accidents that month, would not saving many lives make that a worthwhile deal?).
Sorry to go on for so long, but nebulous character motivations are a pet peeve of mine; when you have to resort to labeling your antagonist as "The Devil God of Evil" to make clear that he is a bad guy you should maybe think about your script some more... say what you want about
Birdemic, but at least there was some logic to it, even if it was the crayon-on-wallpaper kind ("humans harm nature, nature takes revenge").
Quote from: PontifexPrimus on June 06, 2011, 08:50:52 AM
Quote from: CJones on June 05, 2011, 12:00:37 PM
To be fair, there are several bits of exposition that the guys talk over and are hard to make out. Like in the dinner date scene where Bianca is explaining about how she found Lamont and Gamba and how she became hot.
Granted, but there is so much that simply does not make sense....
I get the overarching plot: guy falls in with satanic cult, struggles for a bit and then decides he wants to leave, finally saves his girlfriend that had been attacked by the cult and his own soul. So far so good.
What I don't quite understand is why the makers of this movie decided to add so many additional, conflicting elements: the dolls in the dolls shop are obviously supposed to be some type of voodoo dolls. Some questions arise: why leave them out in the open where everyone can see them and their eerie similarity to actual persons? Why leave a doll with a magic pin stuck through it on display? Why wouldn't someone leaving the cult try to take "their" doll with them (like the fat guy who tried to run)?
Then we get the information that the Evil Hot Girl™ uses the dolls as foci to project her thoughts (and, presumably, ensnare innocent boyfriends). What else are those dolls good for? And why does no one even wonder "hey, maybe having my image in the hands of a satanic cult isn't the best idea"?
Then there is the question what the cult is actually up to, what they are trying to achieve in the long term and in the short term: as far as I can tell our hero, Cardigan Man, is picked like other before him to serve as a human sacrifice (Francis references Evil Hot Girl's multiple "brief affairs"). Why induct him into the cult in the first place and not simply tie him down and stab him? The other cult members appear to be fine with human sacrifice, having gone through it many times before! So why all the hassle with recruiting him, testing his loyalty and making his girlfriend sick if he is destined to be a sacrificial offering anyway?
And what are Gamba's powers, exactly? If the cult can really predict horse races and stock index changes, why not use that to their advantage? Contact a crime organization, make them tons of money in exchange for sacrifices! Heck, if these predictions actually worked they could work for the government (semi-seriously: if you had to sacrifice, say, one human being a month to get accurate predictions of all natural disasters and major accidents that month, would not saving many lives make that a worthwhile deal?).
Sorry to go on for so long, but nebulous character motivations are a pet peeve of mine; when you have to resort to labeling your antagonist as "The Devil God of Evil" to make clear that he is a bad guy you should maybe think about your script some more... say what you want about Birdemic, but at least there was some logic to it, even if it was the crayon-on-wallpaper kind ("humans harm nature, nature takes revenge").
Personally, I'm amazed that so much thought is going into this movie. It's like trying to figure out Santa and the Ice Cream Bunny. I could write paragraphs upon paragraphs about why Tom and Huck were included and what their overall function was in the movie's mythology, but then I realized that that time could be better spent eating toasted peanut butter and banana sandwiches.
edit: Never mind.