I learned Nothing from this B.S. excuse of a movie :grr:
Other than the guy with the camera gave me motion sickness :speechless:
I learned that the Audacity we all know and love is actually Winamp circa 1997.
(Was that Audacity's big screen debut?)
Quote from: David on February 11, 2010, 02:05:09 PM
I learned that the Audacity we all know and love is actually Winamp circa 1997.
(Was that Audacity's big screen debut?)
I loved seeing that on my screen.
I learned how to pronounce Mike's name.
I learned that Feist is really into beading.
I learned that demons need Ritalin.
I learned that Audacity is everywhere!
I learned that Columbus in Zombieland reminded the crew of Michael Cera too.
I learned that average 20-somethings can afford a nice home in San Diego while working jobs of no paticular definition, and selling in-home trout lures.
I learned that ghost-demons leave footprints.
I learned that interestingly comely young women love douchebags.
... Ok that one I've known for a while.
I learned that a woman who has lived with being bothered by a demon since she was a kid thinks a Ouiji board is horrifying.
I learned that the ghost of ET is kind of a dick. (seriously, why no ET riffs during the footprints in the powder scene? They look like his feet. Or Gremlins, too.)
I learned a new appreciation for Harold P. Warren.
This anecdote doesn't really fit here but I didn't want to start an entire thread for one comment so here goes.
I attended the American Film Festival in LA last November. This annual event is where 90% of the indie films in the world find world wide distribution. 400 distribution companies attend every year looking for new product to distribute in their respective markets. Indie filmmakers like me who are looking to move their films have to pay $900 per badge just to walk in the door, and then you still have to get appointments with companies on your own. The badge price is so high just to keep the broke losers who made a movie on their Handycam from clogging up the works.
Anyway, the point is, Paranormal Activity, being an indie movie that'd opened just a few weeks before the AFM to much excitement and many ticket purchases, was a prime talking point throughout the week. Other indie filmmakers were name dropping it like mad in such ways as "hey, if you think that piece of crap made a lot of movie, check OUR movie out! Heh." (actual quote heard while waiting for a meeting)
This movie was also a sore point with several distributers I talked to. I never name dropped Paranormal Activity because I didn't want to sound like every other person they saw, but it came up a couple times to much irritation. One distribution was pissed at how it was being marketed as the most profitable movie of all time because it only cost $15,000 to make. "Yeah, but then Dreamworks put $200,000 into post production and spent millions on marketing. Funny how those numbers never get mentioned when talking about this film." And yes, he had personally passed on this movie twice but it insisted this wasn't sour grapes. "If we'd have released it, we wouldn't have made nearly that much. We're a middle level distributor, they're freaking Dreamworks. They could release my last home movie and make $20 million."
Personally, I'm glad to see any indie movie make it big. I was glad when Blair Witch made it big and I'm glad this one did. It gives hope to the rest of us. I just wish one of these indie movies to make it big was actually ... you know ... watchable.
Quote from: Trekker4747 on February 11, 2010, 05:06:30 PM
I learned that interestingly comely young women
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought she was kinda hawt. I get so sick of seeing Hollywood stick insects sucking up all the movie roles so we never get to spend an entire movie with a baby who got back. ROWL!
I learned what to say if a Cthulhu gets in the house
I also learned that Demons keep pictures safely stored in the attic
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 11, 2010, 09:34:14 PM
Quote from: Trekker4747 on February 11, 2010, 05:06:30 PM
I learned that interestingly comely young women
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought she was kinda hawt. I get so sick of seeing Hollywood stick insects sucking up all the movie roles so we never get to spend an entire movie with a baby who got back. ROWL!
She was a perfectly normal/average looking young woman. Maybe a
bit of "heft" to her, but overall I think she was a good-looking woman with nice knockers. (There, I said it.)
Quote from: Trekker4747 on February 12, 2010, 03:42:27 AM
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 11, 2010, 09:34:14 PM
Quote from: Trekker4747 on February 11, 2010, 05:06:30 PM
I learned that interestingly comely young women
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought she was kinda hawt. I get so sick of seeing Hollywood stick insects sucking up all the movie roles so we never get to spend an entire movie with a baby who got back. ROWL!
She was a perfectly normal/average looking young woman. Maybe a bit of "heft" to her, but overall I think she was a good-looking woman with nice knockers. (There, I said it.)
Yeah, I thought she was cute, too. Ironically, I thought her friend that came over to visit looked more like the typical stick figure Hollywood actress.
Quote from: Trekker4747 on February 12, 2010, 03:42:27 AM
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 11, 2010, 09:34:14 PM
Quote from: Trekker4747 on February 11, 2010, 05:06:30 PM
I learned that interestingly comely young women
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought she was kinda hawt. I get so sick of seeing Hollywood stick insects sucking up all the movie roles so we never get to spend an entire movie with a baby who got back. ROWL!
She was a perfectly normal/average looking young woman. Maybe a bit of "heft" to her, but overall I think she was a good-looking woman with nice knockers. (There, I said it.)
You said it and my boyfriend said it countless times throughout the whole movie. More like Paranormal Boobtivity, amirite? *high five*
I learned that I have a theory: anyone else think that people around these parts have a tendency to smacktalk a movie just because it gets riffed? I realize that some people just flat out don't like a movie and that taste is incredibly subjective, but it seems sometimes that around here it's similar to hipster backlash (suddenly hating a movie once it's popular) but more along the lines of sucking up to the riffers because they didn't like it (or seemingly didn't like it). It happened with Drag to Hell and a bunch of others. There seems to be a need to declare "This is the worst movie of all time! Glad you're putting it in its place!" and sometimes it's a bit disingenuous.
I've put next to no thought in this. I like to think that comes across very clearly in the above paragraph.
Quote from: Courtney on February 12, 2010, 08:49:33 AMI learned that I have a theory: anyone else think that people around these parts have a tendency to smacktalk a movie just because it gets riffed? I realize that some people just flat out don't like a movie and that taste is incredibly subjective, but it seems sometimes that around here it's similar to hipster backlash (suddenly hating a movie once it's popular) but more along the lines of sucking up to the riffers because they didn't like it (or seemingly didn't like it). It happened with Drag to Hell and a bunch of others. There seems to be a need to declare "This is the worst movie of all time! Glad you're putting it in its place!" and sometimes it's a bit disingenuous.
I've put next to no thought in this. I like to think that comes across very clearly in the above paragraph.
Maybe that does happen, but I can assure you that my disdain for Drag Me to Hell had nothing to do with it being riffed and everything to do with it being a horrible, cliched movie that gets heaps of undeserved praise.
As for Paranormal Activity, my only thoughts are that the movie is more boring than suspenseful, and that Micah's attitude absolutely kills any suspense that may have built.
Your hatred seemed genuine (and dark. We may need to look into hypnosis to see if you were bad touched by a CGI goat in your childhood). I'm talking about the others. Often it's newbs who come out of the woodwork only to praise the guys for knocking a movie down a peg, but it's every movie. "Yeah! Fuck Casablanca! You guys are awesome!"
EDIT: OH HAI, 4,000 posts!
I think you're right in general, Courtney. And to be perfectly honest, Drag Me To Hell was like a 45 if we're ranking movies from 0 (worst ever) to 100 (best ever.) It had it's moments. I think the biggest problem with it for me was just a matter of tone.
But this. This movie. Wow. Maybe I'm grading on a downward curve because I HATE HATE HATE the POV handheld camera genre, but boy did this one suck tons of ass. LMFAO
Quote from: Darth Geek on February 12, 2010, 06:03:34 AM
Ironically, I thought her friend that came over to visit looked more like the typical stick figure Hollywood actress.
No freaking doubt! I loved the line mocking her for this. I can't remember the exact words now but it was saying what I was thinking.
Quote from: Courtney on February 12, 2010, 08:49:33 AM
I learned that I have a theory: anyone else think that people around these parts have a tendency to smacktalk a movie just because it gets riffed?
I'd agree. There are a lot of films that if I graded them, I'd give a "C" for "Okay, but not great" or films that I think that "that was a good film, but you could make a lot of jokes about it" that become "The worst film ever" in these forums. And frankly most of us have seen much, much worse films.
Quote from: Courtney on February 12, 2010, 09:11:04 AMEDIT: OH HAI, 4,000 posts!
You're not allowed to make any more posts now.
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Quote from: Courtney on February 12, 2010, 09:11:04 AMEDIT: OH HAI, 4,000 posts!
You're not allowed to make any more posts now.
FINE. I'll take my ball and go home.
Quote from: Courtney on February 12, 2010, 11:18:27 AM
Quote from: Thrifty on February 12, 2010, 10:09:02 AM
Quote from: Courtney on February 12, 2010, 09:11:04 AMEDIT: OH HAI, 4,000 posts!
You're not allowed to make any more posts now.
FINE. I'll take my ball and go home.
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Quote from: Courtney on February 12, 2010, 01:14:54 PM
At 12,000, I will quit and join the ice capades.
Uh Huh.. Yeah ::)
I learned what happens when two really stupid people try to take on a demonic presence in their home by themselves. It's a good thing the psychic never said,"And whatever you do, don't....DON'T...Are you listening, Micah? Stop playing your guitar....Seriously, don't paint a pentagram with blood in the kitchen and sacrifice a live baby in the middle of it. I'm serious!" because they totally would have done that. *
*Well, Micah would have. Katie would have just bitched about it for hours instead of getting herself the hell to priest for a rite of exorcism.
Gonna watch this one tonight and I cannot wait.
I learned that my phobia of having to watch the movie UNRIFFED first will be broken tonight.
I have friends who SWEAR that my house has spirits in it as they constant hear random voices and noices when visiting. I hope the ghosts are pleased with my choice. I will leave a beer for them.
Quote from: Bob on February 12, 2010, 02:11:19 PM
Gonna watch this one tonight and I cannot wait.
I learned that my phobia of having to watch the movie UNRIFFED first will be broken tonight.
I have friends who SWEAR that my house has spirits in it as they constant hear random voices and noices when visiting. I hope the ghosts are pleased with my choice. I will leave a beer for them.
Well, now wonder the ghost are still at your house.
Quote from: Bob on February 12, 2010, 02:11:19 PM
I have friends who SWEAR that my house has spirits in it as they constant hear random voices and noices when visiting. I hope the ghosts are pleased with my choice. I will leave a beer for them.
You Sure you're not just releasing beer farts when they're around?? :speechless:
I learned that Katie lets loose some mad bed farts.
I learned that Mike and the guys couldn't recognise Audacity, instead mistaking it for a 90's wave editor...for shame.
I learned that even demons need to switch on a light when walking up the stairs.
I learned that of the couple seconds I watched each time I gauged the audio level of the movie vs. rifftrax that this movie is going to suuuuuuuuuuuck worse that G.I. Joe.
I learned that if you're afraid of something coming inside your room, by NO MEANS should you close the door.
I learned that a single hand-held camera can provide two completely different camera angles.
I learned that if you want to put together a collection of evidence of paranormal activity you should edit it like crazy because no one watching can be bothered to press the fast forward button themselves. Also when you edit, leave in random boring conversations that have no relevance to the issue at hand.
I learned that ALWAYS even if its meant to be a realistic looking horror film, the film MUST end in a demonic looking thing making a vicious scary motion to the camera just before it ends.
Oh and of course, if there is no doubt there is some kind of ghost/spirit/demon haunting you, you should definitely do EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to piss it off.
I learned that when installing insulation into your home you should just spread it around hap-hazardly around your attic floor without even bothering to make sure to cover the entire floor. Also, keep discarded carpet in your attic. Because, you know, you never know.
I learned that a $15 board game made by Parker Brothers can communicate with evil demons. I also learned said evil demons hate these board games enough to burst them into flames.
I also learned Mike screams like a 12-year-old girl with strep throat. ;)
I learned that owning a dog would be helpful for late night house patrols.
I learned that Psychics tuck tail and run more than the french army.
I also learned you can own a giant house in San Diego and not have any means of income.
Oh! I also learned that a 20-something couple needs two extra fully appointed bedrooms with queen-sized beds.
I learned that a chick with boobs like hers still has no better options than Micah, the yuppy version of Chuck Pierce (the string beany kid in Boggy Creak 2).
Quote from: Bob on February 13, 2010, 07:04:29 PM
I also learned you can own a giant house in San Diego and not have any means of income.
What are you talking about? Micah is a very successful day trader. So much so that he retired and became a full-time amateur videographer.
Ive learn that you should never give your audience LSD before the showing of your movie. I mean how else do you explain those stupid commericals. There wasnt anything remotely scary about this movie. Unless you find watching mold growing on bread scary.
Quote from: D.B. Barnes on February 13, 2010, 10:46:27 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 13, 2010, 07:04:29 PM
I also learned you can own a giant house in San Diego and not have any means of income.
What are you talking about? Micah is a very successful day trader. So much so that he retired and became a full-time amateur videographer.
I also forgot about her fishing lure business too..... I stand corrected.
Quote from: Courtney on February 12, 2010, 08:49:33 AM
Quote from: Trekker4747 on February 12, 2010, 03:42:27 AM
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 11, 2010, 09:34:14 PM
Quote from: Trekker4747 on February 11, 2010, 05:06:30 PM
I learned that interestingly comely young women
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought she was kinda hawt. I get so sick of seeing Hollywood stick insects sucking up all the movie roles so we never get to spend an entire movie with a baby who got back. ROWL!
She was a perfectly normal/average looking young woman. Maybe a bit of "heft" to her, but overall I think she was a good-looking woman with nice knockers. (There, I said it.)
You said it and my boyfriend said it countless times throughout the whole movie. More like Paranormal Boobtivity, amirite? *high five*
I learned that I have a theory: anyone else think that people around these parts have a tendency to smacktalk a movie just because it gets riffed? I realize that some people just flat out don't like a movie and that taste is incredibly subjective, but it seems sometimes that around here it's similar to hipster backlash (suddenly hating a movie once it's popular) but more along the lines of sucking up to the riffers because they didn't like it (or seemingly didn't like it). It happened with Drag to Hell and a bunch of others. There seems to be a need to declare "This is the worst movie of all time! Glad you're putting it in its place!" and sometimes it's a bit disingenuous.
I've put next to no thought in this. I like to think that comes across very clearly in the above paragraph.
I tried to count the amount of times a few people here used the words 'worst movie ever' and lost interest around the point I noticed it was about once a month.
I learned that shaky cam = bad and annoying but also still cam = bad and annoying, perhaps some people should go back to radio plays.
Quote from: Road_Element on February 14, 2010, 03:48:59 AM
Ive learn that you should never give your audience LSD before the showing of your movie. I mean how else do you explain those stupid commericals. There wasnt anything remotely scary about this movie. Unless you find watching mold growing on bread scary.
I would really like to know what scenes people were watching to illicit all that audience reaction. Maybe it was the dailies from "The Room"?
Quote from: Bob on February 14, 2010, 05:39:37 AM
Quote from: Road_Element on February 14, 2010, 03:48:59 AM
Ive learn that you should never give your audience LSD before the showing of your movie. I mean how else do you explain those stupid commericals. There wasnt anything remotely scary about this movie. Unless you find watching mold growing on bread scary.
I would really like to know what scenes people were watching to illicit all that audience reaction. Maybe it was the dailies from "The Room"?
I think it was the trailer for Alvin and Chipmunks 2
Quote from: Bob on February 14, 2010, 05:39:37 AM
I would really like to know what scenes people were watching to illicit all that audience reaction. Maybe it was the dailies from "The Room"?
LMFAO! Nice
Quote from: Courtney on February 12, 2010, 09:11:04 AMYour hatred seemed genuine (and dark. We may need to look into hypnosis to see if you were bad touched by a CGI goat in your childhood).
Interesting observation. I actually do have an inexplicable phobia of goats. I stumbled out of a tent at the state fair last year, and found myself standing directly next to a goat. I was almost too scared to move, but my fear of goats was stronger and I slowly inched my way out of there.
Also, the smell of strawberries terrifies me.
Quote from: Road_Element on February 14, 2010, 03:48:59 AM
Ive learn that you should never give your audience LSD before the showing of your movie. I mean how else do you explain those stupid commericals. There wasnt anything remotely scary about this movie. Unless you find watching mold growing on bread scary.
Mold is
terrifying.
Maybe a strong fear of goats is why that moron in Drag Me To Hell missed so badly in swinging at something that was right the hell in front of him!
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 18, 2010, 09:22:22 AM
Maybe a strong fear of goats is why that moron in Drag Me To Hell missed so badly in swinging at something that was right the hell in front of him!
No, that was just bad writing.
Quote from: Thrifty on February 18, 2010, 10:16:57 AM
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 18, 2010, 09:22:22 AM
Maybe a strong fear of goats is why that moron in Drag Me To Hell missed so badly in swinging at something that was right the hell in front of him!
No, that was just bad writing.
*humour
Yes, bad humor.
When the expert you hired to tell you what to do explicitly tells you not to do something, you probably shouldn't do it.
If most of your hauntings take place in one bedroom, do NOT sleep in one of the other two bedrooms you inexplicably have. Or, for that matter, ever leave the house.
Also, why hire one attractive woman when you can hire one somewhat-chubby girl and one way-too-skinny girl, that average together to make one attractive woman?
I learned that if you've been experiencing increasingly frightening paranormal visitations your entire life, that it is best to wait until you are living alone with a petulant child of a boyfriend/husband before you seriously think about contacting a 'professional' to help you get rid of the visitation.
I learned that you should tolerate your boyfriend/husband's repeatedly aggravating the thing making your life hell with the occasional nagging rather than telling him to get the fuck out of the house if he's going to be such a stupid prick.
I learned that by Micah being killed first that demons at least have reasonable priorities for their actions.
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Quote from: Courtney on February 12, 2010, 08:49:33 AM
I learned that I have a theory: anyone else think that people around these parts have a tendency to smacktalk a movie just because it gets riffed? I realize that some people just flat out don't like a movie and that taste is incredibly subjective, but it seems sometimes that around here it's similar to hipster backlash (suddenly hating a movie once it's popular) but more along the lines of sucking up to the riffers because they didn't like it (or seemingly didn't like it). It happened with Drag to Hell and a bunch of others. There seems to be a need to declare "This is the worst movie of all time! Glad you're putting it in its place!" and sometimes it's a bit disingenuous.
I've put next to no thought in this. I like to think that comes across very clearly in the above paragraph.
I think the issue is more likely to be that people watch a movie with a lot of hype that they don't like (whether it is because - like this one - it actually
is a bad movie, or at other times because the style just wasn't a 'right fit' for them so
they think it is 'bad'). Then, if people are raving about how good it is these people have nowhere to vent themselves until a RiffTrax is released. Then they 'over-rag' on it because it has built up in them so long.
But there are films - like this, and Drag Me to Hell - that actually do suck because they have so many internal inconsistencies (both in rationale for actions and in filmmaking itself).
There are at least a dozen films that have been riffed that I owned before the RiffTrax was released (and more where I had no qualms at all about buying them, as I thought they were 'pretty good' to begin with). But there have been a large number where I bought the films and RiffTrax 'cold' and was fully satisfied. With Drag Me to Hell shortly followed by this film, I am thinking seriously about renting newly released RiffTrax'ed films before buying them, as I can't afford to spend $14 for a film/RiffTrax combo I'll watch once and never again. [The only film up until these two that had this negative a reaction from me was Troll 2, so there was never a need to 'pre-screen' films prior to buying them until this latest batch.]
Quote from: CJones on February 19, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
If most of your hauntings take place in one bedroom, do NOT sleep in one of the other two bedrooms you inexplicably have. Or, for that matter, ever leave the house.
Also, why hire one attractive woman when you can hire one somewhat-chubby girl and one way-too-skinny girl, that average together to make one attractive woman?
First, the psychic/medium told Katie, and this was supported by what she said about her childhood home, that it didn't matter where SHE went, the demon would continue to follow her. Did you see when they were talking about staying in a hotel and Katie made the deduction/reasoning that it wouldn't matter, because the demon isn't haunting the house, it's haunting HER? It didn't matter which bedroom they moved to or where they went after they left the house. The demon was going to continue messing with her.
Second, it's bad for horror movies to objectify women by making them the objects of pain/stalking/torture (your position in the Drag Me thread), but it's cool to rag on the weights of the actresses? Hrm. There's a kettle on line 1 for you, pot.
Let me ask you this, Mr.Gray. What would it have hurt to leave the house and go somewhere else? Worst case scenario, the demon keeps fucking with them, right? Nothing lost. Well, until the stabbing starts, anyway.
So it was worth doing. Also, I think it would have been worth getting some more people involved. Some friends, assuming they had more than the one. Get a half dozen friends over, they can chill and hang out in your bedroom while you two get some much needed sleep. If Kate Hulks out then there's enough people there to wrestle her to the ground or whatever. Not ideal, no, but if they could have gotten a couple nights' sleep with no problems maybe the demon would have chillaxed. Again, worth trying in my mind.
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 19, 2010, 11:26:28 PM
Let me ask you this, Mr.Gray. What would it have hurt to leave the house and go somewhere else? Worst case scenario, the demon keeps fucking with them, right? Nothing lost. Well, until the stabbing starts, anyway.
So it was worth doing. Also, I think it would have been worth getting some more people involved. Some friends, assuming they had more than the one. Get a half dozen friends over, they can chill and hang out in your bedroom while you two get some much needed sleep. If Kate Hulks out then there's enough people there to wrestle her to the ground or whatever. Not ideal, no, but if they could have gotten a couple nights' sleep with no problems maybe the demon would have chillaxed. Again, worth trying in my mind.
You have to balance what makes sense to us as people with what is narratively satisfying and what is practical. Sure, they could have gone to a hotel, but since the result would have been the same, as established several times, then going to a hotel would only have been a waste of screen time. And it would have taken the movie out of the claustrophobia of their house. And it would have complicated the production of the film. So no, it wasn't worth doing. Yes, something would be lost (tone, screen time, budget). Same with getting more people involved. Maybe the demon would have gone away for a while, but eventually it was going to return to torment her. And again you have a waste of screen time, budget (paying additional actors), and tone (think Micah was douchey? What about a half-dozen frat brothers?)
Quote from: mrgray on February 19, 2010, 11:06:19 PM
Quote from: CJones on February 19, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
If most of your hauntings take place in one bedroom, do NOT sleep in one of the other two bedrooms you inexplicably have. Or, for that matter, ever leave the house.
First, the psychic/medium told Katie, and this was supported by what she said about her childhood home, that it didn't matter where SHE went, the demon would continue to follow her. Did you see when they were talking about staying in a hotel and Katie made the deduction/reasoning that it wouldn't matter, because the demon isn't haunting the house, it's haunting HER? It didn't matter which bedroom they moved to or where they went after they left the house. The demon was going to continue messing with her.
Yes I heard that. When apparently a large number of people (inlcuding MK&B?) didn't. But she was too codependent/stupid/whatever to tell her boyfriend to get the fuck out of the house, or leave him behind when she left. Then the demon - which apparently had haunted her without serious incident for 23-25 years - wouldn't have escalated things from him being an asshole. Until he started doing shit like filming and trying a Ouija board, the worst thing they really experienced was the occasional noise. BFD. And they only had to hold out for what? Three or four days til the vacationing demon exorciser got back?
They brought it on themselves, so I don't give a shit about either of them. If you can't possibly care about the characters, there is no possibility for suspense. And the film falls apart.
Quote from: mrgray on February 19, 2010, 11:48:25 PM
You have to balance what makes sense to us as people with what is narratively satisfying and what is practical. Sure, they could have gone to a hotel, but since the result would have been the same, as established several times, then going to a hotel would only have been a waste of screen time. And it would have taken the movie out of the claustrophobia of their house. And it would have complicated the production of the film. So no, it wasn't worth doing. Yes, something would be lost (tone, screen time, budget). Same with getting more people involved. Maybe the demon would have gone away for a while, but eventually it was going to return to torment her. And again you have a waste of screen time, budget (paying additional actors), and tone (think Micah was douchey? What about a half-dozen frat brothers?)
Yeah, that's a good point. Especially about the douchy frat brothers. LMFAO Although I can say it wouldn't have cost any more money except what you might have had to feed them. Extras are easy to get for indie films as long as you ask twice as many to come as you actually need because so many of them flake out on you. They could have gotten some frat douches for free. But, as you mention, would we have wanted that?
Quote from: mrgray on February 19, 2010, 11:06:19 PM
Quote from: CJones on February 19, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
If most of your hauntings take place in one bedroom, do NOT sleep in one of the other two bedrooms you inexplicably have. Or, for that matter, ever leave the house.
Also, why hire one attractive woman when you can hire one somewhat-chubby girl and one way-too-skinny girl, that average together to make one attractive woman?
First, the psychic/medium told Katie, and this was supported by what she said about her childhood home, that it didn't matter where SHE went, the demon would continue to follow her. Did you see when they were talking about staying in a hotel and Katie made the deduction/reasoning that it wouldn't matter, because the demon isn't haunting the house, it's haunting HER? It didn't matter which bedroom they moved to or where they went after they left the house. The demon was going to continue messing with her.
Second, it's bad for horror movies to objectify women by making them the objects of pain/stalking/torture (your position in the Drag Me thread), but it's cool to rag on the weights of the actresses? Hrm. There's a kettle on line 1 for you, pot.
This will be my only response to this:
Dear God, did you just compare my admittedly lame attempt at humor and/or the fact I actually have an opinion about how women look to
torturing them?!. (That was a rhetorical question by the way).
That is not cool.
And yes, I did realize the demon was haunting her, not the house (or the room). Like I said, it was a lame attempt at humor.
I learned that after watching this movie, Lars Von Trier's Antichrist will seem like The Sound of Music.
I learned that there really are people who believe that movies shot on a home camera are documentaries of real occurrences, even when the movie has multiple endings.
I also learned that demon's teeth are retractable, and only show up in two frames.
Maybe Katie was possessed by the same thing that got Bilbo Baggins.
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Quote from: mrgray on February 19, 2010, 11:48:25 PM
You have to balance what makes sense to us as people with what is narratively satisfying and what is practical. Sure, they could have gone to a hotel, but since the result would have been the same, as established several times, then going to a hotel would only have been a waste of screen time.
They could have gone to a church. Yes, it wouldn't helped the movie plot or budget to go there, but going to that big place where demons are unlikely to go might have helped them stay alive.
My main problem with the film was pretty simple: I find it much more entertaining to watch someone who is proactive towards their bad situation than someone who is accelerating it. Micah seemed to be the type who if he found an angry-looking King Kong in a cage would immediately go look for a stick with which to poke him. And while having an idiot in the lead doesn't make it a bad film, it does lessen my enjoyment of it.
Quote from: cfkane on February 26, 2010, 06:44:43 PM
I also learned that demon's teeth are retractable, and only show up in two frames.
Maybe Katie was possessed by the same thing that got Bilbo Baggins.
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GODDAMMIT, cfkane! Don't DO that!
Quote from: Darth Geek on February 26, 2010, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: cfkane on February 26, 2010, 06:44:43 PM
I also learned that demon's teeth are retractable, and only show up in two frames.
Maybe Katie was possessed by the same thing that got Bilbo Baggins.
GODDAMMIT, cfkane! Don't DO that!
Eh, give it some time, it'll wear off.
Well said, Compound, that's exactly how I saw it.
While I was watching this, I was exasperated with the couple's lack of self preservation, to the point where I really hoped something bad would happen to them. From their experience, I learned:
-There is only ONE person who could possibly attempt an exorcisim in the San Diego area (so...no priests or other psychics in the area?), and if he goes on vacation while you've got an infestation, you're screwed.
-I learned that if you're threatened by a demon, then you should not try to leave your house and seek shelter in a church.
-When a demon is leading you in a certain direction (by slamming doors, opening hatches into attics, etc), don't try to resist or leave the area. You should go where the demon wants you to (by opening the doors, crawling through the attic hatch, etc).
-When someone says that they want to leave or that it's time to leave, what they really mean is that they're going to stay.
I'll tell you what I didn't learn.
If all this thing wanted to do was possess her, what the hell was it waiting for?
Is possession related to whether or not she was dating a douchebag at the time?
I must have missed something in between snoring.
Quote from: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 27, 2010, 07:55:48 PM
I'll tell you what I didn't learn.
If all this thing wanted to do was possess her, what the hell was it waiting for?
Is possession related to whether or not she was dating a douchebag at the time?
Well... possession
is 9/10ths of the law, so I
presume it wanted to possess her.
Quote from: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 27, 2010, 07:55:48 PM
I'll tell you what I didn't learn.
If all this thing wanted to do was possess her, what the hell was it waiting for?
Is possession related to whether or not she was dating a douchebag at the time?
I must have missed something in between snoring.
Yeah, the whole "why is it taking so long" was a big question I had as well. Sure, apparently it's been around messing with her for years, but even then it's not really doing much. The abilities we see this demon having (even before the actual possession), it seems like it is not doing as much as it could to mess with her, and taking it's sweet time for no reason.
I learned that the Demon wasn't so bad after all. I mean, the demon DID take care of the douche bag known as Mika. And it DID free the chick FROM his douche bagginess. Way to go demon!! :clap: :highfive: >:D
Quote from: alylovesu2 on February 27, 2010, 11:17:26 AM
Well said, Compound, that's exactly how I saw it.
I agree too. I can handle a douchebag protag (or I wouldn't be a fan of Lost) but they have to at least be proactive. OMFG When they're a douchebag AND passive, doesn't make for much empathy.
You know what's sad, is how many times I watched this before I realized Katie was posessed when she convinced Micah to stay towards the end of the film (I don't pay much attention to the actual movie when I watch these). It does make one wonder though: If the demon wanted them to stay, maybe leaving would have helped after all.
Also, Irish spirits are drunken dicks. Sorry...
Also again, I actually did think The Blair Witch Project tapes were real. Briefly. I heard about The Blair Witch from some TV special, before I learned it was a movie. I'm not proud of this fact.
I learned that when you're scared of demons taking over your household, burning a cross might be tempting fate a bit too much.
I learned that ghosts are internet savy, and when you contact them with a Ouija board, they will direct you to websites about themselves.
I learned that ghosts who're trying to possess your body really aren't asking for much - they just want to stand or sit motionless for hours.
Watching this again right now.......
Golden shit!
Coin.net
They really should riff more horror movies.
I learned that if there's a demon, a servant of Satan, an agent of darkness infesting your home and/or loved ones, then you should immediately burn any religious symbols (i.e. crucifixes) you might find.
Quote from: daltysmilth on July 04, 2011, 09:26:16 AM
I learned that if there's a demon, a servant of Satan, an agent of darkness infesting your home and/or loved ones, then you should immediately burn any religious symbols (i.e. crucifixes) you might find.
Well yeah, because you see, that would..... uh..... huh.
I learned that boring movies with self-absorbed, unattractive, unlikable people is cinema GOLD!
Well the movie was crap, and the characters were unlikable and self absorbed, but I thought Katie was pretty hot.
I watched it for the first time ever last night, and I thought "I can't imagine watching this without the RiffTrax. People actually like this and think it was scary?"
It was pretty terrible even with the Rifftrax. The guys didn't even try. I seem to remember it was a litany of "boy this movie sucks" over and over.