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Title: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: RVR II on February 04, 2010, 11:19:12 AM
I learned that Ahnuld makes the first 3 worth watching ::)
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: eegah on February 04, 2010, 07:08:15 PM
Terminators are pretty stupid and can't shoot straight.

The pure metallic terminators are made to look like humans, complete with useless teeth, for no good reason.

Helicopters can outrun nuclear explosion fireballs.

Terminators don't like to listen to short wave radio, even though the humans broadcast all of their plans on it.

Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: ShadowDog on February 04, 2010, 08:26:44 PM
I learned that Christian Bale got his throat operated on just before recording the Batman audio for Dark Knight.  LMFAO
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Cosmic Muse on February 05, 2010, 09:26:10 AM
Quote from: eegah on February 04, 2010, 07:08:15 PM
Terminators are pretty stupid and can't shoot straight.

Skynet must have based that on my non-ability to shoot straight from Halo: ODST. Seriously, Storm Troopers have better aim than I do. Even at close range I kept missing my Covenant targets.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Moleman on February 05, 2010, 04:50:58 PM
I learned that if you're ever in trouble, just look up at the ceiling and you'll find all sorts of useful objects to help you.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: LucasM on February 05, 2010, 05:45:09 PM
Quote from: eegah on February 04, 2010, 07:08:15 PM


Not only that, but...
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Darth Geek on February 05, 2010, 06:05:51 PM
I learned that The Ultimate Warrior teaches medical school. Must be part of the Warrior University we saw in the comic.

I learned that grey is the only color palette needed for a movie.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: ShadowDog on February 05, 2010, 06:48:49 PM
Quote from: LucasM on February 05, 2010, 05:45:09 PM
Quote from: eegah on February 04, 2010, 07:08:15 PM


Not only that, but...


Well, to be fair, I'm sure she's done nothing but study human medicine since Judgement Day.  If I was in charge of things I'd take anybody who'd ever had a job in any medical related field and train them up as much as possible.

Yes, I spend a lot of time thinking about how I'd reorder society after Judgement Day.  Why do you ask?
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Thrifty on February 05, 2010, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 05, 2010, 06:48:49 PMYes, I spend a lot of time thinking about how I'd reorder society after Judgement Day.  Why do you ask?

You know what irrelevant fantasy scenario I spend a lot of time thinking about?  If I were to go back in time, and I wanted to buy stuff, how would I buy it?  Cash today was all printed in designs from after 2000.  You may find the occasional bill or coin from before then, but most cash is from the past 10 years.  Even if you went back only 100 years to, like, pick up valuable sports memorabilia, the cash would look completely foreign to any American business.

Obviously checks and credit cards are right out.

I guess you could buy gold, but regular stores don't accept gold.  Could you even resell the gold without identification (as a time traveler, you don't exist yet, so you don't have an identity).

I'm serious.  I think about this almost every day.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: ShadowDog on February 05, 2010, 08:41:48 PM
That's an interesting question, actually.

Pawn shops are a good bet, especially since they didn't start requring ID until the past couple decades, I think.  But you'd have to be careful what you brought back so it's not ahead of it's time.  If you have time to prepare, one thing you could do is go to a coin collector and buy some gold coins.  You'd pay out the ass so you better be rich in this time period.  One way to turn it around is study the sports of the era you're going to, take back $100 in cold coin, bet it all on team or boxer that's going to win (especially if there's long odds involved), and then you're flush with cash.

But that's a lot of work and a lot of prep.  You're right, it wouldn't be easy.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: LucasM on February 06, 2010, 01:37:04 AM
Quote from: Thrifty on February 05, 2010, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 05, 2010, 06:48:49 PMYes, I spend a lot of time thinking about how I'd reorder society after Judgement Day.  Why do you ask?

You know what irrelevant fantasy scenario I spend a lot of time thinking about?  If I were to go back in time, and I wanted to buy stuff, how would I buy it?  Cash today was all printed in designs from after 2000.  You may find the occasional bill or coin from before then, but most cash is from the past 10 years.  Even if you went back only 100 years to, like, pick up valuable sports memorabilia, the cash would look completely foreign to any American business.

Obviously checks and credit cards are right out.

I guess you could buy gold, but regular stores don't accept gold.  Could you even resell the gold without identification (as a time traveler, you don't exist yet, so you don't have an identity).

I'm serious.  I think about this almost every day.

Actually, going back in time to get stuff is pretty easy (as long as you're not going to an ancient civilization).  You just buy a bunch of old bills from coin/bill collector shops.  Of course, you have to be careful to spend less buying the old coins and bills than what the items you'd bring back with you would be worth.   ;D  [I thought about that for a while til I came up with the solution.]

Hell, even going forward is easy enough: just sell your current money to a coin/bill collector shop, then use what they pay you to buy whatever you wanted.

Time travel's EASY... once you get the hang of it.  How do I know this?  Uh... gotta go....
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: LucasM on February 06, 2010, 01:39:35 AM
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 05, 2010, 06:48:49 PM
Quote from: LucasM on February 05, 2010, 05:45:09 PM
Quote from: eegah on February 04, 2010, 07:08:15 PM


Not only that, but...


Well, to be fair, I'm sure she's done nothing but study human medicine since Judgement Day.  If I was in charge of things I'd take anybody who'd ever had a job in any medical related field and train them up as much as possible.

Yes, I spend a lot of time thinking about how I'd reorder society after Judgement Day.  Why do you ask?

But her doing a   Exactly where in the post-Judgment Day world is she going to get that kind of training?  It takes years to learn, and far more experience to perfect.  That, plus the and such makes that less believable than a half-human, half-terminator.  People wait
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Thrifty on February 06, 2010, 04:38:46 AM
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 05, 2010, 08:41:48 PM
That's an interesting question, actually.

Pawn shops are a good bet, especially since they didn't start requring ID until the past couple decades, I think.  But you'd have to be careful what you brought back so it's not ahead of it's time.  If you have time to prepare, one thing you could do is go to a coin collector and buy some gold coins.  You'd pay out the ass so you better be rich in this time period.  One way to turn it around is study the sports of the era you're going to, take back $100 in cold coin, bet it all on team or boxer that's going to win (especially if there's long odds involved), and then you're flush with cash.

But that's a lot of work and a lot of prep.  You're right, it wouldn't be easy.

Come to think of it, I could get a lot of money without futzing around with all that "buy ancient sports/comic memorabilia" crap and without worrying about the troubles of currency changes.  All I need to do is go back one week with a newspaper and one dollar to buy a Powerball ticket.

BUT, if we're talking about using time travel for recreation (I think it might be nice to take a tour of New York circa 1901), I would need some sort of historical currency to do anything.  I mean, if I'm a millionaire in 2010, I still don't have a thin dime to spend in 1901.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: ShadowDog on February 06, 2010, 08:30:28 AM
Going forward would be easier, you're right.  Remember the movie "Time after time?"  Jack the Ripper just went to a bank and exchanged currency.  Of course, he was loaded to start with.

Quote from: LucasM on February 06, 2010, 01:39:35 AM
But her doing a   Exactly where in the post-Judgment Day world is she going to get that kind of training?  It takes years to learn, and far more experience to perfect.  That, plus the and such makes that less believable than a half-human, half-terminator.  People wait

You raised something I didn't think about.  Anti-rejection drugs.  Ouch.  That's a problem.  Yeah, I got nothing.  As the English would say, "John Conner is proper fucked."  LMFAO
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: dalem on February 06, 2010, 07:41:31 PM
What the hell is a MCG and why the hell am I 30 minutes into a movie he made?  Is this big guy a Terminator or what?

-dale
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: RoninFox on February 06, 2010, 07:54:08 PM
The McG is a very dangerous McDonalds sandwhich.  Its smarter and more adaptable, making older models like the McRib obsolete.  With power like this, the McEmpire could rule the world, if we don't stop them.

I'm John Connor.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Darth Geek on February 06, 2010, 08:33:25 PM
I learned that studio executives can give 200 million dollars to a guy named McG and be surprised when they end up with a shitty movie.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: dalem on February 06, 2010, 08:53:03 PM
What.

The.

Hell?

Good RT.  Trainwreck of a movie.

-dale
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Pak-Man on February 07, 2010, 12:28:21 AM
I learned that in the future, the robot resistance will take to using hobo code.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: ShadowDog on February 07, 2010, 05:11:29 AM
Quote from: dalem on February 06, 2010, 07:41:31 PM
What the hell is a MCG and why the hell am I 30 minutes into a movie he made?  Is this big guy a Terminator or what?

-dale

What's funny is apparently Bale refused to meet with him about being in this movie because he was called "McG."  LMFAO!  Apparently Bale said something like "His name is what?  "McG?  McG?!?  What the hell does that even mean?  He sounds like an asshole, forget about it!"  LMFAO  McG finally convinced him to meet but I'm with Bale here WTF?
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Tyrant on February 08, 2010, 08:30:12 AM
I learned that Jeeps that have been sitting dormant outside for almost 20 years after a nuclear attack can not only start up and run after some light mechanical work, but will also still play the CD or tape that's been sitting in the deck perfectly.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Cosmic Muse on February 08, 2010, 09:10:15 AM
Quote from: Tyrant on February 08, 2010, 08:30:12 AM
I learned that Jeeps that have been sitting dormant outside for almost 20 years after a nuclear attack can not only start up and run after some light mechanical work, but will also still play the CD or tape that's been sitting in the deck perfectly.

You should know by now that certain types of music can survive a nuclear holocaust. :P
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: dalem on February 08, 2010, 08:27:59 PM
I learned that a character I've not been made to care about (JC) dying and getting a heart transplant in a tent from another character I've not been made to care about (Marcus) while other characters I've not been made to care about (everyone else) stand around watching, does not for a particularly poignant moment make.  Maybe if one of those giant silent robot-transformer-ninjas had been there too.

-dale
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: CJones on February 16, 2010, 05:31:37 PM
Apparently you can land a helicopter upside down. And survive.

And I'm only 11 minutes in...
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: RoninFox on February 16, 2010, 05:36:10 PM
It does prove that sometimes getting to da choppa is not enough
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: CJones on February 19, 2010, 05:56:43 PM
Yeah. He was just fortunate that choppa had a functioning machine gun.

On an unrelated note: cute little girls are really the only people worth paying any attention to... Wait, did I just say that online!? :-[
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 19, 2010, 07:51:54 PM
Quote from: RoninFox on February 06, 2010, 07:54:08 PM
The McG is a very dangerous McDonalds sandwhich.  Its smarter and more adaptable, making older models like the McRib obsolete.  With power like this, the McEmpire could rule the world, if we don't stop them.

I'm John Connor.

Yes, but can the McG keep the hot side hot and the cold side cold like the McDLT?

(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsweettater.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F09%2Fmcdlt1.jpg&hash=9aa84882962a67c35e7b0f45e99405b9de348dd5)

McG=PWNT
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on February 19, 2010, 08:36:27 PM
Quote from: eegah on February 04, 2010, 07:08:15 PM
Terminators don't like to listen to short wave radio, even though the humans broadcast all of their plans on it.

But they'll notice and trace a signal that's meant to shut down the machines

I learned that just like Predator, you can't take bits of Terminator movies, mix them with parts of Alien movies and get something worth watching.

I learned that John Connor still falls for that "call for help" trick...

I learned that no matter how many times a guy survives falls and other injuries that would at least slow him down if not straight out kill him

Quote

I learned that the original ending........as ludicrous as this was as well, was a much better idea.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: RoninFox on February 19, 2010, 08:39:04 PM
The McG has three sides, a hot side, a cold side, and a side that cannot be percieved to even exist by our feeble human brains that are locked into three dimentions. 
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: ShadowDog on February 19, 2010, 11:01:17 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on February 19, 2010, 08:36:27 PM


LMFAO.  Little slow on the uptake, huh?  I'm surprised he didn't roll out the classic "Hey, wait!  Is this an elaborate prank?  Did Bob put you up to this?  Heh."
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on February 20, 2010, 05:58:26 PM
BTW, seeing Helena Bonham Carter in these commercials as the Queen of Hearts in this new version of Alice In Wonderland.....now I think we know why she had her head shaved.....wasn't just for this.

(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bearotic.com%2Fimg%2F2009%2F06%2Falice-in-wonderland-queen-hearts-helena.jpg&hash=5ac4cdadc3772876b81e565d6708ffbe5bfd6d72)
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 20, 2010, 06:37:29 PM
I don't think her normal head is much smaller than that.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Darth Geek on February 20, 2010, 07:24:20 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on February 20, 2010, 05:58:26 PM
BTW, seeing Helena Bonham Carter in these commercials as the Queen of Hearts in this new version of Alice In Wonderland.....now I think we know why she had her head shaved.....wasn't just for this.

(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bearotic.com%2Fimg%2F2009%2F06%2Falice-in-wonderland-queen-hearts-helena.jpg&hash=5ac4cdadc3772876b81e565d6708ffbe5bfd6d72)
Every time I see that, it just makes me think of Madeline Kahn.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: LucasM on February 20, 2010, 08:18:39 PM
Quote from: Darth Geek on February 20, 2010, 07:24:20 PM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on February 20, 2010, 05:58:26 PM
BTW, seeing Helena Bonham Carter in these commercials as the Queen of Hearts in this new version of Alice In Wonderland.....now I think we know why she had her head shaved.....wasn't just for this.

(https://forum.rifftrax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bearotic.com%2Fimg%2F2009%2F06%2Falice-in-wonderland-queen-hearts-helena.jpg&hash=5ac4cdadc3772876b81e565d6708ffbe5bfd6d72)
Every time I see that, it just makes me think of Madeline Kahn.

Every time I see that, it just makes me think of ripping my eyeballs out and filling the holes with bleach.   :)
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 21, 2010, 03:58:32 PM
I learned that 'Produced by Andrew Vajna' makes me laugh to this day.

I'd love for a Vajna to have married Final Sacrifice's producer Tjardus Greidanus, to have a kid named Vajna-Greidanus.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: LucasM on February 21, 2010, 04:22:32 PM
Quote from: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 21, 2010, 03:58:32 PM
I learned that 'Produced by Andrew Vajna' makes me laugh to this day.

I'd love for a Vajna to have married Final Sacrifice's producer Tjardus Greidanus, to have a kid named Vajna-Greidanus.

Ahhh... sex-based jokes just 'taint what they used to be.  ;)
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 21, 2010, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: LucasM on February 21, 2010, 04:22:32 PM
Quote from: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 21, 2010, 03:58:32 PM
I learned that 'Produced by Andrew Vajna' makes me laugh to this day.

I'd love for a Vajna to have married Final Sacrifice's producer Tjardus Greidanus, to have a kid named Vajna-Greidanus.

Ahhh... sex-based jokes just 'taint what they used to be.  ;)

Hey, you don't have to be a dick about it!
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Action Batch on February 21, 2010, 06:10:06 PM
Quote from: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 21, 2010, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: LucasM on February 21, 2010, 04:22:32 PM
Quote from: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 21, 2010, 03:58:32 PM
I learned that 'Produced by Andrew Vajna' makes me laugh to this day.

I'd love for a Vajna to have married Final Sacrifice's producer Tjardus Greidanus, to have a kid named Vajna-Greidanus.

Ahhh... sex-based jokes just 'taint what they used to be.  ;)

Hey, you don't have to be a dick about it!

Jesus Tony grow some balls!
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: CJones on February 23, 2010, 10:56:09 PM
I just learned that Marcus isn't wearing any underwear. 'Cause, y'know, he was apparently naked at first, but the guy whose clothes he stole was still wearing his afterward...

..I also just learned that this movie makes think of the male crotch area far more than I care to.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: JimJ on February 24, 2010, 02:07:42 AM
Quote from: Thrifty on February 05, 2010, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 05, 2010, 06:48:49 PMYes, I spend a lot of time thinking about how I'd reorder society after Judgement Day.  Why do you ask?

You know what irrelevant fantasy scenario I spend a lot of time thinking about?  If I were to go back in time, and I wanted to buy stuff, how would I buy it?  Cash today was all printed in designs from after 2000.  You may find the occasional bill or coin from before then, but most cash is from the past 10 years.  Even if you went back only 100 years to, like, pick up valuable sports memorabilia, the cash would look completely foreign to any American business.

Obviously checks and credit cards are right out.

I guess you could buy gold, but regular stores don't accept gold.  Could you even resell the gold without identification (as a time traveler, you don't exist yet, so you don't have an identity).

I'm serious.  I think about this almost every day.

This post got me thinking about some show or movie about time travel I saw where this was an issue.  I thought maybe it was Journeyman, a very good NBC show that got canceled after one very short season (starring Terminator: Salvation's own Moon Bloodgood).  This thought led to me finding out, to my delight, that all episodes of Journeyman are available on Hulu.  I just watched two episodes and in the second episode the main character pays for a taxi with modern money. The cabbie calls the cops because he thinks it's counterfeit. This leads to him being chased by his brother who is a cop, but the brother never gets a look at him.  If I'm remembering correctly, I'm pretty sure this scene comes up again later on in the series.  Worth checking out if you haven't seen it, especially since it deals with the time travel currency issue that interests you.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: FordPrefect on February 24, 2010, 05:37:53 AM
Quote from: JimJ on February 24, 2010, 02:07:42 AM
Quote from: Thrifty on February 05, 2010, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 05, 2010, 06:48:49 PMYes, I spend a lot of time thinking about how I'd reorder society after Judgement Day.  Why do you ask?

You know what irrelevant fantasy scenario I spend a lot of time thinking about?  If I were to go back in time, and I wanted to buy stuff, how would I buy it?  Cash today was all printed in designs from after 2000.  You may find the occasional bill or coin from before then, but most cash is from the past 10 years.  Even if you went back only 100 years to, like, pick up valuable sports memorabilia, the cash would look completely foreign to any American business.

Obviously checks and credit cards are right out.

I guess you could buy gold, but regular stores don't accept gold.  Could you even resell the gold without identification (as a time traveler, you don't exist yet, so you don't have an identity).

I'm serious.  I think about this almost every day.

This post got me thinking about some show or movie about time travel I saw where this was an issue.  I thought maybe it was Journeyman, a very good NBC show that got canceled after one very short season (starring Terminator: Salvation's own Moon Bloodgood).  This thought led to me finding out, to my delight, that all episodes of Journeyman are available on Hulu.  I just watched two episodes and in the second episode the main character pays for a taxi with modern money. The cabbie calls the cops because he thinks it's counterfeit. This leads to him being chased by his brother who is a cop, but the brother never gets a look at him.  If I'm remembering correctly, I'm pretty sure this scene comes up again later on in the series.  Worth checking out if you haven't seen it, especially since it deals with the time travel currency issue that interests you.

This is actually addressed very briefly in Back to the Future Part 2. After Marty and Doc go back to 1955, Doc tells Marty to go and buy some inconspicuous 1955 clothing. He has a suitcase labeled "Emergency Cash." Inside the suitcase there are stacks of various bills labeled with specific years. Doc quickly adds, "I have to be prepared for all monetary possibilities." In the commentary, I believe Bob Gale said something about how even though he only intended to go to the future, Doc is aware of and paranoid about various problems that could arise from going to different time periods. These are just the kinds of steps he would take. This also helps explain how he is able to establish himself as a blacksmith when he ends up in 1885.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: ShadowDog on February 24, 2010, 11:43:03 AM
Journeyman was an awesome series!
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 04, 2010, 10:50:05 PM
Quote from: ShadowDog on February 24, 2010, 11:43:03 AM
Journeyman was an awesome series!

Does it have anything to do with the video game I kind of remember from when i was a kid of the same name?
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: ShadowDog on March 07, 2010, 07:55:31 PM
I don't think so.  Unless the video game had Moon Bloodgood's hawt ass in it.  And I just realized this moment that Journeyman and this movie share a hawt actress.  Sweet.
Title: Re: What Salvation things did you learn without being Terminated?!
Post by: The Manatee on November 16, 2010, 12:14:29 AM
Learning of the truly epic Christian Bale rant was nearly a life changing moment for me. Especially the reaction of the crew where they just laugh at him and keep quietly filming.

Also, such a shock to see this was a pretty good movie. Not on par with the first one but at least as good as the other sequels, though the stupid arnold appearance and the overinvolved john connor parts that got tacked on dragged it down from being really good. Also sam worthington is just awful as always. He should have been John Connor as a bit part and Bale played his part and it would have been quite good. Which I suspect is what the original script called for.