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Title: cursing?
Post by: deadking13 on December 28, 2009, 11:24:40 AM
i was kind of surprised upon hearing this riff to hear a few four letter words mentioned.  I'm not complaining.  i'm generally the most foul-mouthed person i know.  in fact, it was kind of refreshing to hear bill say a few wash-your-mouth-out-with-soap words.  i was just wondering why i can hear slightly more rowdy humour in this riff than other R-rated riffs.  every once in a while i'll hear a bleeped curse word on a riff or an almost curse word.  but to my knowledge this is the only riff with four letter words in it. 
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: MontyServo on December 28, 2009, 11:46:45 AM
I think it has a lot to do with the fact that Mike wasn't in this one.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: deadking13 on December 28, 2009, 01:59:31 PM
mike does seem to come off as a tad conservative.  he ought to let loose every once in a while, scream obscenities, it's good for the health. 
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: Action Batch on December 28, 2009, 02:05:14 PM
Quote from: deadking13 on December 28, 2009, 01:59:31 PM
mike does seem to come off as a tad conservative.  he ought to let loose every once in a while, scream obscenities, it's good for the health. 

Yeah, I was really surprised when, on a Rifftrax, he referred to someone as being "Retarded". That's pretty heavy for Mike (maybe not actual Mike but performer Mike).
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: RoninFox on December 28, 2009, 04:46:32 PM
Well, keep in mind what movie this is too.  Anyone offended by a bad word is likely never to touch this dvd, so why not?
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: MrTorso on December 28, 2009, 05:43:46 PM
Yeah it seems more to do with the flick than if Mike was there or not.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: deadking13 on December 28, 2009, 07:49:13 PM
Quote from: MrTorso on December 28, 2009, 05:43:46 PM
Yeah it seems more to do with the flick than if Mike was there or not.

well i henceforth put in my vote for more "saw-esque" movies.  i'm a huge horror fan and am delighted when two things i love collide. 
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: spaceforarent on December 28, 2009, 07:50:42 PM
Don't the generally try making the riff the same rating as the movie?
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: MontyServo on December 28, 2009, 08:25:56 PM
Quote from: RoninFox on December 28, 2009, 04:46:32 PM
Well, keep in mind what movie this is too.  Anyone offended by a bad word is likely never to touch this dvd, so why not?

Quote from: MrTorso on December 28, 2009, 05:43:46 PM
Yeah it seems more to do with the flick than if Mike was there or not.

I'd be willing to bet that if Mike was also riffing that movie, that those jokes wouldn't have made it into the final product as worded.  Mike just seems like the type of guy who wouldn't want to go there.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: AmandaGal on December 28, 2009, 10:43:39 PM
Quote from: Monty on December 28, 2009, 08:25:56 PM
Quote from: RoninFox on December 28, 2009, 04:46:32 PM
Well, keep in mind what movie this is too.  Anyone offended by a bad word is likely never to touch this dvd, so why not?

Quote from: MrTorso on December 28, 2009, 05:43:46 PM
Yeah it seems more to do with the flick than if Mike was there or not.

I'd be willing to bet that if Mike was also riffing that movie, that those jokes wouldn't have made it into the final product as worded.  Mike just seems like the type of guy who wouldn't want to go there.

Willing to be that Mike wouldn't riff this movie . . .
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: FordPrefect on December 29, 2009, 02:32:28 AM
Quote from: deadking13 on December 28, 2009, 07:49:13 PM
Quote from: MrTorso on December 28, 2009, 05:43:46 PM
Yeah it seems more to do with the flick than if Mike was there or not.

well i henceforth put in my vote for more "saw-esque" movies.  i'm a huge horror fan and am delighted when two things i love collide. 

You should check out the iRiffs by Hor-RIFF-ic Productions whenever they come back online.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: Watchman on January 04, 2010, 04:29:27 PM
Quote from: deadking13 on December 28, 2009, 07:49:13 PM
well i henceforth put in my vote for more "saw-esque" movies.  i'm a huge horror fan and am delighted when two things i love collide. 
Add my vote. There's something really amusing to me about Riffing a violent horror film, and they rarely touch these. Hostel II could be a riot.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: SJP on January 04, 2010, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: Monty on December 28, 2009, 08:25:56 PM
I'd be willing to bet that if Mike was also riffing that movie, that those jokes wouldn't have made it into the final product as worded.  Mike just seems like the type of guy who wouldn't want to go there.

To be honest, I can understand.  I've done a few iRiffs myself, and for the most part, I DON'T include swearing.  I'm not any sort of Ned Flanders (listen to me while I'm driving and you'll hear me yell out all sorts of unmentionables), but I just don't like to include swearing and foul language when I write.  Some of it is just the way I grew up (sort of a 'Will Smith' sort of thing), but at other times it just smacks of lazy writing.  Tarantino gangsters may talk that way, but most people on a professional level just don't.  Unless they're just crazy.

But I'm guessing that's Mike's approach as well...or, maybe he just wrote for TV family-friendly programming for too long.  Either way, sometimes it's hardest NOT to swear and come up with a good joke.  Believe me, it was very difficult to try and keep an "Explicit Content" sticker off of "Ice Pirates," since PG means something very different today than it did in 1984 (such as allowing clothes-staying-on sex, racial slurs, and a pimp robot), but damn if I didn't try to figure out ways to poke fun without resorting to profanity.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: Watchman on January 08, 2010, 07:03:01 PM
"But I'm guessing that's Mike's approach as well...or, maybe he just wrote for TV family-friendly programming for too long."

Don't forget MST3K The Movie, though, he's the one who said "Whoop de shit".
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: RoninFox on January 08, 2010, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Watchman on January 08, 2010, 07:03:01 PM
"But I'm guessing that's Mike's approach as well...or, maybe he just wrote for TV family-friendly programming for too long."

Don't forget MST3K The Movie, though, he's the one who said "Whoop de shit".

I thought that was Kevin's line.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on January 08, 2010, 07:37:31 PM
Quote from: RoninFox on January 08, 2010, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Watchman on January 08, 2010, 07:03:01 PM
"But I'm guessing that's Mike's approach as well...or, maybe he just wrote for TV family-friendly programming for too long."

Don't forget MST3K The Movie, though, he's the one who said "Whoop de shit".

I thought that was Kevin's line.

Yeah, all the cussing in MST3K: The Movie was Servo.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: FordPrefect on January 09, 2010, 01:24:11 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on January 08, 2010, 07:37:31 PM
Quote from: RoninFox on January 08, 2010, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Watchman on January 08, 2010, 07:03:01 PM
"But I'm guessing that's Mike's approach as well...or, maybe he just wrote for TV family-friendly programming for too long."

Don't forget MST3K The Movie, though, he's the one who said "Whoop de shit".

I thought that was Kevin's line.

Yeah, all the cussing in MST3K: The Movie was Servo.

True. Besides, the only reason Servo cussed so much was because Gramercy didn't want the film to have a PG rating.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on January 09, 2010, 09:06:59 AM
Quote from: FordPrefect on January 09, 2010, 01:24:11 AM
Quote from: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on January 08, 2010, 07:37:31 PM
Quote from: RoninFox on January 08, 2010, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Watchman on January 08, 2010, 07:03:01 PM
"But I'm guessing that's Mike's approach as well...or, maybe he just wrote for TV family-friendly programming for too long."

Don't forget MST3K The Movie, though, he's the one who said "Whoop de shit".

I thought that was Kevin's line.

Yeah, all the cussing in MST3K: The Movie was Servo.

True. Besides, the only reason Servo cussed so much was because Gramercy didn't want the film to have a PG rating.

Think you mean a "G"....well, maybe PG.

Besides, Servo's comments would be easiest to edit out for TV showings.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: stansimpson on January 09, 2010, 03:10:14 PM
Quote from: RoninFox on January 08, 2010, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Watchman on January 08, 2010, 07:03:01 PM
"But I'm guessing that's Mike's approach as well...or, maybe he just wrote for TV family-friendly programming for too long."

Don't forget MST3K The Movie, though, he's the one who said "Whoop de shit".

I thought that was Kevin's line.
Yeah, that was Kevin.  I remember having my mind sufficiently blown to hear Tom Servo say that.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on January 09, 2010, 03:17:08 PM
Quote from: stansimpson on January 09, 2010, 03:10:14 PM
Quote from: RoninFox on January 08, 2010, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Watchman on January 08, 2010, 07:03:01 PM
"But I'm guessing that's Mike's approach as well...or, maybe he just wrote for TV family-friendly programming for too long."

Don't forget MST3K The Movie, though, he's the one who said "Whoop de shit".

I thought that was Kevin's line.
Yeah, that was Kevin.  I remember having my mind sufficiently blown to hear Tom Servo say that.

Still surprised me that they had Dr. Forrester say "Poopie" instead of....

Also would have been easy to edit out for TV.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: deadking13 on January 09, 2010, 11:33:07 PM
Quote from: stansimpson on January 09, 2010, 03:10:14 PM
Quote from: RoninFox on January 08, 2010, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Watchman on January 08, 2010, 07:03:01 PM
"But I'm guessing that's Mike's approach as well...or, maybe he just wrote for TV family-friendly programming for too long."

Don't forget MST3K The Movie, though, he's the one who said "Whoop de shit".

I thought that was Kevin's line.
Yeah, that was Kevin.  I remember having my mind sufficiently blown to hear Tom Servo say that.

Yeah, that was a bit of a shock.  Glad he did it though, it was hilarious.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: Watchman on February 21, 2010, 04:42:03 PM
Quote from: stansimpson on January 09, 2010, 03:10:14 PM
Quote from: RoninFox on January 08, 2010, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Watchman on January 08, 2010, 07:03:01 PM
"But I'm guessing that's Mike's approach as well...or, maybe he just wrote for TV family-friendly programming for too long."

Don't forget MST3K The Movie, though, he's the one who said "Whoop de shit".

I thought that was Kevin's line.
Yeah, that was Kevin.  I remember having my mind sufficiently blown to hear Tom Servo say that.

Whoops, my bad.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: TTYT on February 22, 2010, 02:29:23 PM
Well, I was gonna avoid this riff - didn't wanna suffer through that horrible movie again - but now my interest is piqued.
Title: Re: cursing?
Post by: deadking13 on February 23, 2010, 10:57:06 PM
Quote from: TTYT on February 22, 2010, 02:29:23 PM
Well, I was gonna avoid this riff - didn't wanna suffer through that horrible movie again - but now my interest is piqued.

it's definitely a riff worth checking out.  i think it's the funniest of the iriffs, and it's one of my favourite all time riffs.