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Offline TMC1982

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*Peggy Charren - Peggy Charren spearheaded a major movement (via her watchdog group Action for Children's Television or ACT) to censor cartoons during the 1970s and 1980s. In essence, she was pretty much telling and bullying networks that animated shows couldn't show violence and "anti-social behavior". In the end this left with really no other option for viewers to only watch "pro-social" cartoons that fits into her parameters. In return, Peggy Charren's biggest legacy was probably that of the Children's Television Act of 1990. The Children's Television Act of 1990 was further strengthened in about 1996 via the three hours of education mandate on broadcast networks. Ironically, it really is the only reason Saturday morning cartoons still exist among over-the-air broadcasters, since all the profitable cartoons and kids shows have long since moved to cable (i.e. Cartoon Network, NickToons, Toon Disney, etc.).

*Alfred Kahn - Alfred Kahn is the CEO of 4Kids Entertainment. Kahn has basically been criticized by traditional anime fans, who believe that his "Americanization" and censorship of anime licensed by 4Kids tarnishes their original format.

*Fred Calvert - Fred Calvert is the man who was chosen to finish "The Thief and the Cobbler" (or "Arabian Knight" as it was theatrically released as in the United States in 1995) after Richard Williams was fired from his 20+ year pet project.

*Jamie Kellner - Wrestling fans hate Jamie Kellner because he ordered the cancellation of WCW programming on TBS/TNT. Eric Bischoff and his group of investors were on the verge of purchasing WCW from Time Warner. But when Kellner had the shows cancelled, this gave Vince McMahon the opportunity to purchase his competition and have a virtual monopoly on the North American pro wrestling market. Anyway, Jamie Kelner was also the WB executive who made sweeping changes, which led to the cancellation/retinkering of certain beloved Silver Age WB shows (i.e. "Animaniacs", "Freakazoid!", "Road Rovers", "Histeria!", "The Legend of Calamity Jane", and "Pinky and the Brain"). Kellner has been maligned for allegedly ignoring such shows' popularity among older demographics, among whom the programs often got higher ratings than in the 2-11 demographic (a la "Pokemon") at which Kids' WB! was primarily aimed.

*Bob Camp - Bob Camp is the guy who took over from John K./Spumco on the production of "Ren and Stimpy" when Nickelodeon fired John K. When Camp and his Games Animation production company took over, I think that fans felt that the show became too reliant on cheap gross out jokes. Ironically, when Spumco revived "Ren and Stimpy" on the "Adult Party Cartoon" on SpikeTV, those episodes were even more hated by the fans than the Games produced episodes.

*Michael Eisner - Eisner gained a reputation during his time as the CEO of the Disney Company for allegedly micromanaging the Disney animators out of their jobs, literally forcing Pixar away, killing a lot of the "Disney Afternoon" style shows by only letting them run a maximum of 65 episodes, and churring out straight-to-DVD/video "cheap-quels" to films such as "The Little Mermaid", "The Lion King", "Aladdin", "Cinderella", "Peter Pan", etc.

*Glen Kennedy - Kennedy's animation studio worked on "Tiny Toon Adventures", "A Pup Named Scooby Doo", and many "Disney Afternoon" shows. Animation fans have criticized Kennedy for his apparent knack of sloppiness (e.g. often lumpy, bouncy, and stretchy movements) on the shows he and his company worked on when compared to StarToons (who also worked on "Tiny Toons").

*Mike Scully - Mike Scully was the show runner for "The Simpsons" from 1997-2001. During the time he was the show runner or exectutive producer, there was an seemingly increased usage of celebrity guest voices, more reliance on slapstick and lowbrow humor, and the characters became more one-dimensional. In addition, many episodes during this period centered around Homer, who was seemingly portrayed as being very mean-spirited.

*Carl Macek - Macek was the producer and story editor of "Robotech" (which was originally made up of three unrelated anime). Fans of anime have criticized Macek (who has been dubbed "The Antichrist" on usernet forums) for changing the dialogue in order to remove what he called "ethnic gestures". Also, Macek has been heavily criticized for the major, and some fans argue, pointless changes to the dubbing of "Aura Battler Dunbine".


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I think Eisner is most deserving of the wrath of cartoon fans, with honorable mention for Kellner.
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I think Eisner is most deserving of the wrath of cartoon fans, with honorable mention for Kellner.

Agreed, and Alfred Kahn takes the bronze for what he did to The Vision of Escaflowne.


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I'd like to nominate who ever it is at Warner Video who thinks that they have to censor the Hanna Barbara cartoons they release on DVD...

For example, I wanted "Jonny Quest" intact.  I remember the insensitive racial comments from when I was a kid watching these.  No amount of editing by them are going to take them out of my head and either the damage was done or it wasn't.

And that show is "too violent" to show to an impressionable kid anyway.   ::)

(seriously, if you're a post-Boomer like me...and you think about all the stuff that we saw and did as kids that people now say will turn kids into monsters....how is it we haven't murdered half of the people on whatever coast we live on already?)


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Ralph Bakshi.  He and his Lord of the Rings movie blows!

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Heh heh


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as someone who grew up with Tiny Toons and A Pup Named Scooby Doo, I'm just gonna skip over the third paragraph from the bottom, all the others can have my hate, especially that Freakazoid! guy  >:(
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Ralph Bakshi.  He and his Lord of the Rings movie blows!

Agreed.  The only way it could be worse is if Bakshi had set it to the music of Frank Zappa.
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Ralph Bakshi.  He and his Lord of the Rings movie blows!

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Heh heh

I don't get the "heh heh" part, but that movie really did suck. I admit Felix the Cat was important to the history of animation, but Bakshi is my most hated person in the history of Animation


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Ralph Bakshi.  He and his Lord of the Rings movie blows!

Agreed.  The only way it could be worse is Bakshi had set it to the music of Frank Zappa.

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I admit Felix the Cat was important to the history of animation, but Bakshi is my most hated person in the history of Animation

Damn, you been hitting the crack pipe?

Ralph Bakshi is a master of animation. He made some of the best American animated films and helped progress the art form. Pretty much every one of his films (discounting his most recent, which was the result of the director, the lead actress, and the studio wanting completely different things) is a masterpiece. If you think his films are bad, you know nothing about animation.

And Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures is the reason why we now have Ren & Stimpy.
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umm, no. Why would I be hitting the crack pipe?


~edit~ Oh I get it. It's Felix the Cat. Whatever. The only good thing about it was that it showed cartoons could be for adults. The animation still sucked.
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Of all the people on the planet, I want to hit Eisner with my car the most. And then back up over him while he's down, and hit him with my car again. And basically just do that repeatedly until I either run out of gas or a tire goes flat. And then leave my stalled car on top of him for a while until AAA shows up. Hopefully the tow truck will also run over him.


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Oh I get it. It's Felix the Cat. Whatever.

It was Fritz the Cat. And the animation is fantastic.
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Oh I get it. It's Felix the Cat. Whatever.

It was Fritz the Cat. And the animation is fantastic.

I looked it up even and meant to write Fritz. Maybe my brain just won't register it. weird


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Oh I get it. It's Felix the Cat. Whatever.

It was Fritz the Cat. And the animation is fantastic.

I looked it up even and meant to write Fritz. Maybe my brain just won't register it. weird



Are you saying that THIS is bad art?
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