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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2008, 11:44:07 AM »
6 people, 6 people said the movie sucked, that means 6 people have no idea what makes a movie awesome
I can tell you one thing: The suffering and slaughter of people I do not find entertaining, fun or "awesome".

So your main beef is that the movie has gratuitous violence? I didn't think it did, nothing like Hostel's at least. Besides, Godzilla has destroyed Tokyo, what, 42 times now? Theres got to be a lot of pain and anguish there, not to mention from the real tradgedy of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2008, 12:23:59 PM »
So your main beef is that the movie has gratuitous violence? I didn't think it did, nothing like Hostel's at least. Besides, Godzilla has destroyed Tokyo, what, 42 times now? Theres got to be a lot o fpain and anguish there, not to mention from the real tradgedy of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
No, My main beef is when gratuitous violence and death is supposed to pass for the most entertaining aspect of the movie. Now if a person dies in a movie because they deserve it, that's another story.

Not for entertainment. Not for fun. Just for Science.
Cloverfield's got nothing to do with Aperture Science. Sorry.
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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2008, 12:32:41 PM »
Not for entertainment. Not for fun. Just for Science.
Cloverfield's got nothing to do with Aperture Science. Sorry.


ah, but we don't know that for a fact
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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2008, 12:34:34 PM »
Cloverfield's got nothing to do with Aperture Science. Sorry.
ah, but we don't know that for a fact
Oh come on, who knows Aperture science better than yours truly?


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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2008, 01:53:17 PM »
Cloverfield's got nothing to do with Aperture Science. Sorry.
ah, but we don't know that for a fact
Oh come on, who knows Aperture science better than yours truly?

Maybe Black Mesa? That was a joke, ha ha, fat chance.


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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2008, 05:11:59 PM »
So your main beef is that the movie has gratuitous violence? I didn't think it did, nothing like Hostel's at least. Besides, Godzilla has destroyed Tokyo, what, 42 times now? Theres got to be a lot o fpain and anguish there, not to mention from the real tradgedy of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
No, My main beef is when gratuitous violence and death is supposed to pass for the most entertaining aspect of the movie. Now if a person dies in a movie because they deserve it, that's another story.

But the violence and deaths weren't gratuitous.  They're integral to the story. 


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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2008, 05:16:57 PM »
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No, My main beef is when gratuitous violence and death is supposed to pass for the most entertaining aspect of the movie. Now if a person dies in a movie because they deserve it, that's another story.

What's funny here is that's the reason I refuse to watch movies like Saw or Hostel or Captivity or whatever torture porn is popular at the moment. I don't see how this is torturous- this is characters dealing with a situation larger than themselves, and not handling it very well. I was surprised with how much they got away with on the gore, though.



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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2008, 05:19:05 PM »
I liked the first Saw, I wouldn't call it Torture porn, more like a suspense-drama-thing
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« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2008, 05:40:46 PM »
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No, My main beef is when gratuitous violence and death is supposed to pass for the most entertaining aspect of the movie. Now if a person dies in a movie because they deserve it, that's another story.
What's funny here is that's the reason I refuse to watch movies like Saw or Hostel or Captivity or whatever torture porn is popular at the moment. I don't see how this is torturous- this is characters dealing with a situation larger than themselves, and not handling it very well. I was surprised with how much they got away with on the gore, though.
I saw people who were suffering so profoundly that to me Cloverfield is no different then torture porn. I mean, the suffering is the ONLY thing we saw for the duration of the whole movie, except the opening party scene.
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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2008, 09:25:49 AM »
There wasn't a bunch of gratuitous violence. What made this movie great was that it didn't capitalize on anything, because it was realistic. This isn't so much a film as an experience. Who hasn't been curious about what a monster attack would really be like? Cloverfield delivers that experience without one-liners or slo-mo action scenes. It doesn't even have any music-- none of the comforts that hollywood normally provides us with. Why? Because this isn't a movie. It's a video tape from an actual monster attack. It's about as real as a monster film can get, and the ending only makes sense. If a huge monster attacks your city, you'll probably die.

If you want a hollywood monster movie, go watch the 1998 Godzzilla. If you want a new experience that you'll never be able to have otherwise, see Cloverfield.

On a side note, I think the rifftrax for Cloverfield will be a disaster. As a riffer, I'm just not seeing it working; not because I think it's perfect, but because I just don't think it's a film that lends itself to riffing. I could be wrong, but I'll be very impressed if te rifftrax is any good at all.
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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2008, 10:49:23 AM »
Wow!  I'm really gonna have to watch this one first without the Rifftrax.  I hope Netflix comes through for me and sends it fast.

The pessimism from a lot of people about the success of this Rifftrax is strange though.
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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2008, 11:04:53 AM »
Thats exactly what I am going to do....watch it W/O Rifftrax first. It will make the second viewing w/Rifftrax more enjoyable.


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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2008, 11:30:20 AM »
On a side note, I think the rifftrax for Cloverfield will be a disaster. As a riffer, I'm just not seeing it working; not because I think it's perfect, but because I just don't think it's a film that lends itself to riffing. I could be wrong, but I'll be very impressed if te rifftrax is any good at all.

The way I see it, that one scene where the group are walking down the street only for the Monster show up just in front of them and immediately have the military attack it from behind them makes a riff of this movie very much worthwhile.

Happens about 35mins into the movie with the camera guy asking if the the other guy tried dialing 911.


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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2008, 11:35:57 AM »
I don't know what that means....


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Re: Cloverfield
« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2008, 11:51:27 AM »
If you want a hollywood monster movie, go watch the 1998 Godzzilla.

Well I'm gonna have to at the end of the month.  ;)