Can't sleep

[tejava joe]

btw I'm still not understanding the thread hijack but you kids have fun. 

[CJones]

Tamazapam, Ativan, Methadone, Tramadol and some Zyrtec just for good measure.

I'm not even kidding. Even with all this, I'm lucky to ever get more than four hours sleep at a time.

I've done ativan, tramadol, zyrtec, ambien, melatonin, etc.

I just discovered propranolol.  It blocks the adrenal receptors in the cells.  It works really well.  PTSD people swear by it.  It isnt like a funky SSRI that you need to build up over time; it has a half-life of 3-4 hours.  You dont get those drugged, knock-out sleeps where you dont really rest like you do with benadryl.  You don't get the sick nausea either like with tramadol.  You don't get trapped in nightmares like with melatonin.  Some people have found similar relief from prazosin, but that one doesnt seem to work as well for me.

On top of that LDN, Low Dose Naltrexone.  It blocks opiod receptors in the gut for 3-4 hours while you sleep.  Then you get a cascade of natural opiates late late evening/early early morning.  Again no drugged feeling or side effects.  Its good for your intestinal health.  Also good for good dreams and waking up happy.

(I started this thread because I ran out of propranolol)

I've never heard of Propranol. Might be worth looking into. I've been on nearly every Benzodiazipine or near Benzo (Ambien, Lunesta) there is (never taken Valium though, oddly enough), as well almost all SSRI's and a handful of Tri-Cyclics. I've heard of low dose Naltrexone, but I've never tried it. Another thing I should probably look into.

My first sleeping pill was Ambien. That stuff knocked me out cold at first. Then I transitioned to still being awake but not remembering what I had done (nearly set the house on fire once by leaving a pizza cooking in the oven overnight). Eventually it just stopped working altogether. I've become very resistant to any form of sedation, including alcohol.

[Mrs. Dick Courier]

I stopped taking prescription sleeping pills after I woke up outside.  In the rain.  I was dreaming I was in the shower.

This was when mom was alive.  Evidently I left the front door open and our dog woke her up.  And mom found me and managed to wake me up.  Thank goodness I hadn't started stripping.  Even though it was the middle of the night.

That ambiens some crazy shit.

[Lembach]

That ambiens some crazy shit.

I've taken it when the melatonin doesn't work. Turns me off like a light switch. Never had any adverse effects with me other than grogginess when I wake.

[Just-The-Trax]

Took ambien for a couple weeks a few years ago. I got the "unpleasant taste" side effect. I don't know exactly what sucking on a turd tastes like but I suspect it's close. Z-quil usually works pretty well for me.