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What will you be doing this Feb 14th?

Letting your significant other know you adore them
13 (32.5%)
Cursing Hallmark for this made up holiday
4 (10%)
Watching Porn and Getting Shit Faced Drunk
5 (12.5%)
Working
9 (22.5%)
Fucking St. Valentine in the ass behind the gym during school
5 (12.5%)
I am single and don't care about the holiday but this girl that used to date my cousin and  i've been friends with for a long time just got dumped by her horrible boy friend so I am going to take her out to dinner and buy her flowers so she doesn't
4 (10%)

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Voting closed: February 15, 2008, 01:17:08 PM


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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2008, 02:36:53 PM »
Guess marriage has made me forget how to be a romantic I guess.. :P


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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2008, 02:47:13 PM »
Speaking as a woman (and maybe this goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway) the whole point of the day is to express your love for someone else. As long as it's the sincere emotion behind the gift giving of the gift-giver, and a sincere emotion on the part of the recipient, the actual item being given should be trivial. A paper heart can mean as much as a pearl necklace, and it should if the same emotion is behind both.

  I guess what I'm saying is that the local commercials around here are running sales and essentially saying in the advertisements that if you don't buy 'her' a diamond, you (the man) are sleeping on the couch. This whole mindset of men thinking they need to buy a gift that'll send their woman to the moon, and the expectation of the woman that the man should wow her in some way gift-wise pisses me off and totally overrides what the day actually means.   :P  But, I suppose, what can one expect from a holiday engineered for the sole purpose of selling cards and candy?

 Just my two cents. Sorry for the rant.


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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2008, 02:49:06 PM »
Ah I like Lupercalia, I generally make something for my wife, and I've done so for all my previous girlfs too.

Thank you, Tripe.

I've been trying to explain to my friends the origin of this holiday, and whenever i mentioned Lupercalia, they just looked at me and snickered.


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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2008, 02:49:52 PM »
Wait....women accept pearl necklaces as Valentine's day presents?  Awesome... >:D
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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2008, 02:50:29 PM »
Speaking as a woman (and maybe this goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway) the whole point of the day is to express your love for someone else. As long as it's the sincere emotion behind the gift giving of the gift-giver, and a sincere emotion on the part of the recipient, the actual item being given should be trivial. A paper heart can mean as much as a pearl necklace, and it should if the same emotion is behind both.

  I guess what I'm saying is that the local commercials around here are running sales and essentially saying in the advertisements that if you don't buy 'her' a diamond, you (the man) are sleeping on the couch. This whole mindset of men thinking they need to buy a gift that'll send their woman to the moon, and the expectation of the woman that the man should wow her in some way gift-wise pisses me off and totally overrides what the day actually means.   :P  But, I suppose, what can one expect from a holiday engineered for the sole purpose of selling cards and candy?

 Just my two cents. Sorry for the rant.

Well yes and I agree with the general sentiment there, but it really is a very old holiday (hence my using the Roman name earlier).

Wait....women accept pearl necklaces as Valentine's day presents?  Awesome... >:D

Yes but you may need to impress her with another gift before she, er, "opens the box" for the necklace
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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2008, 02:56:40 PM »
Speaking as another woman, I've never gotten this stupid holiday.  No, I'm not dating anyone now, but even when I was, it really seems pointless.  I'm going to force some guy to have an aneurysm trying to decide what to get me, where to go, what to do? Either that or he's just going to get some flowers and candy on Feb 14th from Kroger on the way to my house like hundreds of other guys.  It's way too much pressure and way too much money.

You can say, like Tyrant, if you really are in love it doesn't matter.  Whatever you do and whatever you get will be fine.  However, if you really are in love, you don't need a made up day to show it.  Whatever you do ever and wherever you go ever should be fine.  Every date should be like "Valentine's Day."

It seems an antiquated holiday to me. We know longer have dowry or fancy courtship rituals like they used to.  We have lots of other days we celebrate that actually have meaning (anniversaries, birthdays, etc).  I just see no reason at all for it.

So, yeah.  I'm no fun.  Maybe that's why I'm single.


And the old tradition is one of fertility.  I haven't had a Valentine's Day yet where I wished to  be fertile and I bet 90% of the men out there aren't buying flowers and hoping for kids ;)
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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2008, 02:58:11 PM »
Wait....women accept pearl necklaces as Valentine's day presents?  Awesome... >:D

Yes but you may need to impress her with another gift before she, er, "opens the box" for the necklace
OK Tripe.. Your puffy hearts for kabooses and creative ideas for opening her 'heart shaped' box, are definitly creative :D :D  


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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2008, 03:00:07 PM »
Speaking as another woman, I've never gotten this stupid holiday.  No, I'm not dating anyone now, but even when I was, it really seems pointless.  I'm going to force some guy to have an aneurysm trying to decide what to get me, where to do, what to do? Either that or he's just going to get some flowers and candy on Feb 14th from Kroger on the way to my house like hundreds of other guys.  It's way too much pressure and way too much money.

You can say, like Tyrant, if you really are in love it doesn't matter.  Whatever you do and whatever you get will be fine.  However, if you really are in love, you don't need a made up day to show it.  Whatever you do ever and wherever you go ever should be fine.  Every date should be like "Valentine's Day."

It seems an antiquated holiday to me. We know longer have dowry or fancy courtship rituals like they used to.  We have lots of other days we celebrate that actually have meaning (anniversaries, birthdays, etc).  I just see no reason at all for it.

So, yeah.  I'm no fun.  Maybe that's why I'm single.


And the old tradition is one of fertility.  I haven't had a Valentine's Day yet where I wished to  be fertile and I bet 90% of the men out there aren't buying flowers and hoping for kids ;)
Ya know, I wish I was single again.. ;)


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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2008, 03:03:30 PM »
Speaking as another woman, I've never gotten this stupid holiday.  No, I'm not dating anyone now, but even when I was, it really seems pointless.  I'm going to force some guy to have an aneurysm trying to decide what to get me, where to do, what to do? Either that or he's just going to get some flowers and candy on Feb 14th from Kroger on the way to my house like hundreds of other guys.  It's way too much pressure and way too much money.

You can say, like Tyrant, if you really are in love it doesn't matter.  Whatever you do and whatever you get will be fine.  However, if you really are in love, you don't need a made up day to show it.  Whatever you do ever and wherever you go ever should be fine.  Every date should be like "Valentine's Day."

It seems an antiquated holiday to me. We know longer have dowry or fancy courtship rituals like they used to.  We have lots of other days we celebrate that actually have meaning (anniversaries, birthdays, etc).  I just see no reason at all for it.

So, yeah.  I'm no fun.  Maybe that's why I'm single.


And the old tradition is one of fertility.  I haven't had a Valentine's Day yet where I wished to  be fertile and I bet 90% of the men out there aren't buying flowers and hoping for kids ;)

But ultimately all holidays are pointless.

The thing about Humans is they can make up a holiday about anything* and that's really cool.

I mean fundamentally it started as a way to bring good luck and all other boons to the city of Rome, but it's nice to celebrate the thing that sustains life, and the most fun you can have with another adult.

* C.F. what Cinco de Mayo is specifically celebrating.


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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2008, 03:07:16 PM »

But ultimately all holidays are pointless.

The thing about Humans is they can make up a holiday about anything* and that's really cool.

I mean fundamentally it started as a way to bring good luck and all other boons to the city of Rome, but it's nice to celebrate the thing that sustains life, and the most fun you can have with another adult.

* C.F. what Cinco de Mayo is specifically celebrating.

   :clap:  Here here! Couldn't agree more.

   And you don't need a stupid, baseball sized diamond or a $70 box of chocolates to do that.


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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2008, 03:08:22 PM »
mmm chocolate :D


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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2008, 03:13:41 PM »
But ultimately all holidays are pointless.

The thing about Humans is they can make up a holiday about anything* and that's really cool.

I mean fundamentally it started as a way to bring good luck and all other boons to the city of Rome, but it's nice to celebrate the thing that sustains life, and the most fun you can have with another adult.

* C.F. what Cinco de Mayo is specifically celebrating.

I don't celebrate Cinco de Mayo or Kwanza either, hehe.  Most holidays at least you have something.

Why do you celebrate anniversaries? It's the day we met or married.
Why do you celebrate birthdays? It's the day you were born.
Christmas? Christ was born.
Easter? Christ was ressurrected.
Valentine's Day? Someone told me I should . . . ;)

That's more to my point.  You can make up a holiday about anything, for most people, valentine's day really has nothing backing it up.  Because I love this person.  Ok, but you love them everyday.  Why today?  Because someone told you you should celebrate on this day.

I think you celebrate those things every time you're with the other person.
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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2008, 03:18:46 PM »
But we can do the the same with your list:

Why do you celebrate anniversaries? Someone told me I should . .
Why do you celebrate birthdays? Someone told me I should . .
Christmas? Someone told me I should . . (because Winter sucks and we need something to take our minds of it)
Easter? Someone told me I should . . (because the German Pagans did)
Valentine's Day? Someone told me I should . .

it's all ultimately arbitrary :)

And I used CdM as an example because it's a good one: What does it celebrate? A momentary victory after which the French came back and kicked everyone's arses. But that's no reason not to party. :)


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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2008, 03:20:44 PM »
I Celebrate Cinco de Mayo!! WOO HOO!!
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Re: Valentine's Day
« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2008, 03:24:06 PM »
well...technically.....most of the celebrations around Christmas have some Roman origin.

Presents, feasts=Saturnalia
 and of course, the winter solstice.