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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2008, 08:42:01 AM »
Unions exist to serve only one purpose, and that is to screw you over.

That seems like a pretty narrow view, not to mention completely false.   ::)

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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2008, 08:42:06 AM »
Please, beerxtaco, (and others)  start your point by saying "Does it scare that I tell the truth instead of wallowing in hypocrisy? Do I scare you because I am intelligent?"


Otherwise, we'll just naturally assume it's worthless.



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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2008, 09:16:49 AM »
I prefer wallowing in hypocrisy, to be honest.  Oink oink.




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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2008, 09:45:25 AM »
I vote we just go back to the feudal manor days when our lords the king would decide what is best for us.



Hey, it's the default political form of Human Kind. Kind of like how death at 35 is the default human lifespan.


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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2008, 01:08:42 PM »
The unions are providing the third option of fighting it, and that's what the majority of the writers guild members opted to do.

No.  There is no third option.  One or the other.  It's a two party system.  Get real. GET REAL

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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2008, 02:14:23 PM »
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Why are some union writers allowed to negotiate deals that allow them to return to work? (United Artists & Letterman for example)

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I think it goes back to the principle that United Artists was founded on - Charlie Chaplin, Mary (oh geez I just forgot her name damnit) and her husband were really smart in keeping the directors and writers the ones who ran the show.  I think people like Buster Keaton who gave in to the studio system were just killed by it.

Maybe it's just part of UA's tradition that kept it from being owned by some conglomerate like Pepsi.  I'm not an expert, but I heard that it was in the 50s and 60s that the studio "families" were crumbling so they were bought out by companies and stuff - that's when movies started to get 'merchandized"

The unions are a great idea - they work in some instances, and don't in others (like the bus drivers who are on strike again here in my town and making it so the elderly can't get around anymore) - which makes me angry...

But in this instance, writers man, it's a tough life and they need all the help they can get.  They have kids, insurance... plenty of people are really hurting by this.
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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2008, 03:36:07 PM »
Am I the only one happy that there's no Golden Globes this year?
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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2008, 04:08:54 PM »
I think it goes back to the principle that United Artists was founded on - Charlie Chaplin, Mary (oh geez I just forgot her name damnit)

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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2008, 04:17:16 PM »
Am I the only one happy that there's no Golden Globes this year?

The word for me is indifferent.  Never watched them before so they never bothered me.  Didn't plan on watching them this year, so I'm not missing anything.
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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2008, 04:52:05 PM »
Am I the only one happy that there's no Golden Globes this year?

The word for me is indifferent.  Never watched them before so they never bothered me.  Didn't plan on watching them this year, so I'm not missing anything.

Same here, but I'll admit to a grim, bitter satisfaction at seeing it derailed, even if it's only this once.


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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2008, 05:34:45 PM »
Naw, it's just so painful to see someone who's so very, very wrong and so confident that he's very, very right.

Well, I can tough it up. You, on the other hand, don't seem to realize who is wrong and who is right, and that is very painful to see.

Am I the only one happy that there's no Golden Globes this year?

The word for me is indifferent.  Never watched them before so they never bothered me.  Didn't plan on watching them this year, so I'm not missing anything.

Why do you think I'm talking about the damned unions...no, I don't particularly care about any awards shows, either. I find them boring and I don't really care whether they are as scheduled, or not.

But that still doesn't change the fact that unions are corrupt and are more harmful than they are helpful. If you claim otherwise, you are clueless.
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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2008, 05:43:12 PM »
Being against the union is not "19th century attitude". It's sane and rational.
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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2008, 06:10:42 PM »
No. They say "get that dinosaur out of the room before he gafoogles my monkey baby!" ;D
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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2008, 06:35:56 PM »
speaking as someone who is in a union, UFCW (United Farm and Commercial Workers), i would have to say that yes, unions can be both good and bad aspects, depending on the circumstance.  for instance, the last contract we had was not the best, but it was better than the one before and the current contract is better than that.  my pay has been increased as have a number of extra benefits and all i have to pay $9.50 a week and that is cheaper than buying insurance on my own and grants me some protection from being messed w/ by the big wigs...i'd say unions have their place but are still prone to corruption cause they are run by humans, funny thing that...


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Re: Wow, screw this guy.
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2008, 06:58:37 PM »
See, there's a good point flock.

Humans have the capacity for good and evil and can be corrupt.  A union is not inherently corrupt, it depends on who is in charge.  If the majority of the union members approve of the actions of the union I think that's a good sign that its not trying to screw over the people, especially if it's over 90% of the members.
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