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Offline RandyMistie

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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2006, 08:15:17 AM »
Yes, there was a movie critic who said something like, "I wish someone would just throw a pie in someone's face or something..."  And I had to laugh.  You know, the books actually had some great humor in it, Pippin, who was played like an idiot in the movies was actually a very clever and funny guy in the books.

Just throwin that out there...
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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2006, 08:33:26 AM »
I loved the books, loved Fellowship movie, but the rest sucked. So bad I wil most likely never read the books again ever. The whole movie blowout years kinda left a sour taste in my mouth. I wasn't po'ed at most of the changes from the books to the movie, but some of the stuff in the ROTK movie just killed me. I can't go back to any of it now! So I say, tear them a new one Mike!


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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2006, 08:38:19 AM »
Yes, there was a movie critic who said something like, "I wish someone would just throw a pie in someone's face or something..."  And I had to laugh.  You know, the books actually had some great humor in it, Pippin, who was played like an idiot in the movies was actually a very clever and funny guy in the books.

Just throwin that out there...

I agree completely. The movies lacked the zest and dare I say charm of Tolkien's writing. They were basically uber-serious action epics. I guess that's understandable in that people would probably laugh if Viggo Mortensen broke out into song half way through "Fellowship" but I for one missed that element of the story.

You may not have cared much for the "Narnia" film but one thing I thought they got completely right was the whimsical tone of C.S. Lewis's story?it would have been very easy for them to remove the more "silly" elements (talking beavers, Santa Claus, etc.) in favor of going the "dark and serious" route. Something really would have been lost then.


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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2006, 10:03:16 AM »
I had never read Narnia, so I was caught completely off guard when Santa Clause started handing out weapons to children.  If you had been expecting it, it might have worked, but it just seemed silly to me. Though you have a good point.  Silliness was part of the books.  But you can afford detours in tone in books more than you can in movies.  You have more time to build up the serious, dark, scary mood again after something silly happens.  In movies, going from Santa to killing and peril doesn't quite work, for me anyway. 


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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2006, 10:30:08 AM »
I had never read Narnia, so I was caught completely off guard when Santa Clause started handing out weapons to children.  If you had been expecting it, it might have worked, but it just seemed silly to me. Though you have a good point.  Silliness was part of the books.  But you can afford detours in tone in books more than you can in movies.  You have more time to build up the serious, dark, scary mood again after something silly happens.  In movies, going from Santa to killing and peril doesn't quite work, for me anyway. 

So...not a big Silent Night, Deadly Night fan then?
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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2006, 09:44:02 PM »
I loved the books, loved Fellowship movie, but the rest sucked. So bad I wil most likely never read the books again ever. The whole movie blowout years kinda left a sour taste in my mouth. I wasn't po'ed at most of the changes from the books to the movie, but some of the stuff in the ROTK movie just killed me. I can't go back to any of it now! So I say, tear them a new one Mike!

Oh, I'm sorry that the movies had that effect on you!  You should read them again, they are worthy of your respect.
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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2006, 04:55:37 AM »
I still have my HUGE Tolkien book collection, I mean I was really nuts about way back when. Now, I just feel as though the life has been taken out of it due to the movies. But I have to say, Fellowship was always my favorite book, and so was the movie. Maybe that had alot to do with it?

I will be stoned for this, but the Silmarillion is the only work that is still great in my mind. If anyone could do that in a series like HBO or something, man, that would kick a! But alas!

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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2006, 07:24:56 AM »
I still have my HUGE Tolkien book collection, I mean I was really nuts about way back when. Now, I just feel as though the life has been taken out of it due to the movies. But I have to say, Fellowship was always my favorite book, and so was the movie. Maybe that had alot to do with it?

I will be stoned for this, but the Silmarillion is the only work that is still great in my mind. If anyone could do that in a series like HBO or something, man, that would kick a! But alas!

What was I talking about? :)

LOL!!  Yes, I totally get what you are saying.  I believe The Silmarillion is like... one of the most amazing pieces of literature since Shakespeare.  But that's just me...

What were we talking about?
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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2006, 08:24:03 AM »
I gotta admit: I completely love the Lord of the Rings trilogy.  I watched the entire extended trilogy over the weekend a few months back and reminded myself of why I love them.  I think even though Jackson has a massive epic to attend to, he has time for little character moments that help define who the fellowship are.  One great scene is in the Return of the King, where Pippin and Gandalf are waiting for the orcs to breach the walls of the citadel and Pippin asks Gandalf if this is the end.  It's beautifully done by Ian McKellen especially. 


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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2006, 09:17:46 AM »
I gotta admit: I completely love the Lord of the Rings trilogy.  I watched the entire extended trilogy over the weekend a few months back and reminded myself of why I love them.  I think even though Jackson has a massive epic to attend to, he has time for little character moments that help define who the fellowship are.  One great scene is in the Return of the King, where Pippin and Gandalf are waiting for the orcs to breach the walls of the citadel and Pippin asks Gandalf if this is the end.  It's beautifully done by Ian McKellen especially. 

There is no doubt that Jackson did the best that he, or anyone else could have done, with the Works of Tolkien in a movie.  I don't think anyone can say otherwise.  We just, all of us, have our nitpicks and that's what makes us fans of Mike, Kevin, Bill, Trace, Mary Jo, and the whole MST3K Universe.
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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2006, 09:42:50 AM »
I love The Lord of the Rings movies. And I agree that nitpicking is inevitable with any movie. If Mike, Kevin or Bill think they can make the movie funny then by all means have at it.
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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2006, 11:33:27 AM »
I personally think Peter Jackson did a tremendous service for Lord of the Rings.

Along comes the movies which, through excellent and comeptent direction and acting manages to encapsulate the LOTR books.



Maybe for those of you with low attention spans, Tolkien might seem long-winded, but Tolkien's books manage to stay interesting for their entire duration, whereas Peter Jackson can bore the hell out of you with nine hours (three 3-hour movies) of fast-moving images!

I'm sorry, but if I have to take crack to find a movie interesting, than it's not worth it. Tolkien wrote a great story, and Peter Jackson butchered the hell out of it. He's the only filmmaker to adapt the book and get everything wrong. He also manages to rip off scenes from every single film ever made, from The Birth of a Nation to Braveheart.

Big budgets don't mean good movies. Ed Wood has made better and far more entertaining films than Peter Jackson ever has in his entire life. "Plan 9," at least, was funny, wheras Peter Jackson's films are just painful.
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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2006, 11:38:26 AM »
Er, tell us how you really feel!  :o


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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2006, 11:40:48 AM »
Er, tell us how you really feel!  :o

Er, I did... ::)
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Re: OK. Let's talk Lord of the Rings
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2006, 10:17:50 AM »
I love these movies but I'm all for having them riffed upon.  "Nothing sacred."  That's my motto!  I only have one stipulation. Mike has to riff those super extended versions, since those are the ones I own..all three of them...in a neat little box that I had to send away for with proofs of purchases...  God, I'm a geek.