GoldWave "Voice Over" plug in

[MrTorso]

The response I got on the Goldwave forum was that 5.1 support might be in version 6.0 but there was no real time frame for getting to 6.0.

[gbeenie]

BTW, I remastered the audio for The Matrix using the Voice Over plug-in last night. Sometime this evening I'll give the test DVD-RW I made a partial test listen.

[BEERxTaco]

GoldWave pretends to open the file

Am I the only one who found it funny that Goldwave is clever enough to pretend to do something? lol...  The wording of that just made me chuckle... clever Goldwave!

[Blueguy]

I've actually had that happen with a file.  I don't remember which one, but every time I tried to open the AC3, it showed it was trying to unencode it or whatever it does when you open an AC3 or MP3, but when it gone done, there was nothing there.

[SharpMonkey]

Here is my official guide for mixing rifftrax audio with GoldWave:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/inch77/guide.htm

THANKS!  This guide is wonderful and told me everything I needed to know.  The automation of the GWvoice plugin is so fantastically wonderful that I may actually cough up some dough when my demo runs out.   

[MrTorso]

You can get quite a few mixes done with the demo and it is really worth the $$$ for it.

[gammer]

Here is my official guide for mixing rifftrax audio with GoldWave:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/inch77/guide.htm

THANKS!  This guide is wonderful and told me everything I needed to know.  The automation of the GWvoice plugin is so fantastically wonderful that I may actually cough up some dough when my demo runs out.   

I'm glad you were able to follow it.
I just re-read the guide I made there, and I can't believe how complicated it makes the process seem. Also, I wrote that when I first started using the voice over plug-in. I've tweaked some of those settings now...but the guide is a good starting point.

[Bairman]

5.1 mixes with Goldwave and the voice-over plug-in are possible... but it takes a little extra effort.  In short, here's how I've been doing it:

1)  Use BeSweet to convert the demuxed AC3 file to six mono WAV files... one for each channel (FL, C, FR, SL, SR, LFE).
2)  Using Goldwave, match the volume of the RiffTrax WAV to the center channel mono WAV to normalize the riffs and the movie dialogue.
3)  Use the GW voice-over plug-in to mix the new RiffTrax WAV into all six mono WAVs.
4)  Use BeSweet to recombine the six mono WAV files into a new AC3 file.

All six mono WAVs will need to have the voice over plug-in run on them.  For the channels you want the RiffTrax to play through, mix as usual.  For the channels you don't want the RiffTrax to play through, turn the voice volume control of the plug-in to the off position.  This will cause the movie audio to still lower during riffs, but the riffs themselves will not play through those channels.

For example... what I usually do is to use the voice over plug-in to mix the RiffTrax audio into the two rear channels (SL & SR).  Then I use the voice-over plug-in to mix the RiffTrax audio into the other four channels with the voice volume turned off.  All six channels will lower during the riffs, but the riffs will only play from the rear channels.  This has the effect of making it sound like the riffers are sitting behind me.  It's pretty cool.

[MrTorso]

Thanks Bairman for the tips! I will probably try it on the next one. Do you know how your mixes sound when playing back on say a two-channel tv? I sometimes play my Rifftrax on my bed room tv that only has 2 channel stereo.

[Bairman]

Thanks Bairman for the tips! I will probably try it on the next one. Do you know how your mixes sound when playing back on say a two-channel tv? I sometimes play my Rifftrax on my bed room tv that only has 2 channel stereo.

Since none of my friends have 5.1 systems, I had the same thought, so I switched my receiver to stereo and the 5.1 mixes still sound great.  However, being anal-retentive as I am, I've also been making two channel, DPLII compatible audio streams as well, to provide multiple audio choices for maximum listening pleasure no matter what system they're played on.  So far I've been extremely pleased with the results in every configuration.

[MrTorso]

Good to know! Thanks for the tips!  Do you know if BeSweet still has the Pioneer problem? Does it ever get updated??

[Bairman]

Good to know! Thanks for the tips!  Do you know if BeSweet still has the Pioneer problem? Does it ever get updated??

Supposedly it still has the problem, but since I don't know anyone with a Pioneer player, it's not a problem for me.  I don't think it's been updated for awhile... who knows if it ever will be again.  But it works fine for me as is.

I did try working with Aften for AC3 encoding, but ran into several problems:

1. AftenGUI doesn't support multiple WAV files or mux files as input.
2. The latest version of the BeLight GUI for BeSweet supports Aften, but they broke mux file operation with this version.
3. Older versions of BeLight have mux file input working correctly, but don't support Aften.
4. Doing it the hard way and using Aften with BeSweet command line works, but results in an AC3 file that is 2K larger than the original.

After fighting with all this for quite awhile, I decided it was much simpler just to use the ac3enc encoder that comes with BeSweet.

[gammer]

4)  Use BeSweet to recombine the six mono WAV files into a new AC3 file.

Is there a way to use BeSweet to recombine the six mono WAV files into single WAV file?
If so, then MrTorso you can use whatever you've been using so far to make your AC3 files. I think you said it was MPEG-DVD-Wizard?

[Bairman]

4)  Use BeSweet to recombine the six mono WAV files into a new AC3 file.

Is there a way to use BeSweet to recombine the six mono WAV files into single WAV file?
If so, then MrTorso you can use whatever you've been using so far to make your AC3 files. I think you said it was MPEG-DVD-Wizard?

I think what you suggest can be done with BeSweet, but I wouldn't want to say for certain without testing it first.

[MrTorso]

4)  Use BeSweet to recombine the six mono WAV files into a new AC3 file.

Is there a way to use BeSweet to recombine the six mono WAV files into single WAV file?
If so, then MrTorso you can use whatever you've been using so far to make your AC3 files. I think you said it was MPEG-DVD-Wizard?

I have been using Aften.