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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #11160 on: July 01, 2014, 07:59:17 PM »
Here-say and clips from movies are circumstantial.   Maybe its true, maybe not.  I dont know.  Though he doesn't do everything on his movies himself, other people write them.  You could say that about any director.  Also Michael Bay got Megan Fox her job on the new TMNT movie, so he cant hate her that badly.

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« Reply #11161 on: July 01, 2014, 08:01:32 PM »
Even sarcastically it doesn't make sense. You're saying he doesn't have a reputation worthy of being called a piece of human garbage, only he's famously called a lot worse by people who work with and for him.

He has also been highly praised by people.

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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #11162 on: July 01, 2014, 08:08:28 PM »
Here-say and clips from movies are circumstantial.   Maybe its true, maybe not.  I dont know.  Though he doesn't do everything on his movies himself, other people write them.  You could say that about any director.  Also Michael Bay got Megan Fox her job on the new TMNT movie, so he cant hate her that badly.

I would say that about any director that consistently included such things int heir films, yes. We agree.

They are not circumstantial though, they are examples of what he thinks, and what he thinks is acceptable.

I have provided a very small sampling of the masses of evidence that exists, your dismissal of it is baseless.

Even sarcastically it doesn't make sense. You're saying he doesn't have a reputation worthy of being called a piece of human garbage, only he's famously called a lot worse by people who work with and for him.

He has also been highly praised by people.

So was Charles Manson, what's your point?
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #11163 on: July 01, 2014, 08:25:44 PM »
He did a movie about kidnapping.  Are you really suggesting he finds that acceptable?

Everyone is a human piece of garbage.

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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #11164 on: July 01, 2014, 08:27:23 PM »
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #11165 on: July 01, 2014, 08:28:06 PM »
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« Reply #11166 on: July 01, 2014, 08:28:57 PM »
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #11167 on: July 01, 2014, 08:29:15 PM »
He did a movie about kidnapping.  Are you really suggesting he finds that acceptable?

Everyone is a human piece of garbage.

... Are you just trolling or do you think you made a point there?

Do you understand the difference between making a film that involves a kidnapping and making a film packed with racist/homophobic etc etc characters and dialogue, and the endorsement of those things?

I will say that his choice to make that film IS an example of a shitty thing to do though. The families of the victims of those criminals were very upset of the making of that film and the choice to make it into a comedy bro-film. I haven't seen it, so I can't speak to its contents.
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #11168 on: July 01, 2014, 08:33:56 PM »
It is a very valid point.  Movies are a serious business, they are researched for focus groups and what people want to see and are written in specific ways for that very reason.  That is why films are remade/rebooted or follow similar paths.  These films are successful so people do want to see that.  I am not saying its good or bad, it is just reality.

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« Reply #11169 on: July 01, 2014, 08:37:12 PM »
It is a very valid point.  Movies are a serious business, they are researched for focus groups and what people want to see and are written in specific ways for that very reason.  That is why films are remade/rebooted or follow similar paths.  These films are successful so people do want to see that.  I am not saying its good or bad, it is just reality.

So you feel his making of a film about kidnapping is an endorsement of it?
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« Reply #11170 on: July 01, 2014, 08:40:29 PM »
No, it was a response to your comment about things in the movies are things he finds acceptable.

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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #11171 on: July 01, 2014, 08:51:44 PM »
Do you understand the difference between making a film that involves a kidnapping and making a film packed with racist/homophobic etc etc characters and dialogue, and the endorsement of those things?
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« Reply #11172 on: July 01, 2014, 08:58:59 PM »
I get that, but like I said.  Movies are written the way they are ON PURPOSE.  Usually not by the director.  If people didn't want to see these types of things the movies would fail and it would not be written into newer movies.

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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #11173 on: July 01, 2014, 09:00:35 PM »
I get that, but like I said.  Movies are written the way they are ON PURPOSE.  Usually not by the director.  If people didn't want to see these types of things the movies would fail and it would not be written into newer movies.

Oh, you think Michael Bay is powerless over what he films and gets to include in his films!
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #11174 on: July 01, 2014, 09:01:29 PM »
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