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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4680 on: March 20, 2012, 08:50:15 PM »
Ok 2nd shift sux! Scheduled from 2pm - 10:30pm but didn't clock out till after 11pm.
The work is not bad, just the hours suck for me and there's a strong probability I could stay as late as 1am some nights depending on the work load :-[


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4681 on: March 20, 2012, 09:52:30 PM »
Ok 2nd shift sux! Scheduled from 2pm - 10:30pm but didn't clock out till after 11pm.
The work is not bad, just the hours suck for me and there's a strong probability I could stay as late as 1am some nights depending on the work load :-[

That blows, man.
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4682 on: March 20, 2012, 11:52:58 PM »
Thanks. We haven't even put a bid in on the house yet but we're thinking about buying it. The house was renovated by a flipper who basically went to Home Depot and bought a big box marked CHEAP HOME RENOVATIONS so there's a lot of character that's been replaced with a lot of bland shit. This is a picture of the kitchen, and the cabinets in question:



In looking at them again I think I think I would try painting them first, and if I feel like I really can't live with it I might look into getting the cabinet doors redone.

What in the world were these people thinking? First of all, you don't live in a remodeled brick-and-timber loft, so you probably don't want to design your kitchen as if you do. But whatever you do, don't half-ass it like that. The floor, counter-tops, and the ugly backsplash everyone is referring to would go perfectly in a loft-style kitchen. The problem here, aside from the fact that style doesn't fit in this kind of house, is those appliances, and especially those cabinet doors, completely clash with the rest of the kitchen. It's like faux country kitchen meets Best Buy clearance sale meets Tribeca. Those cabinets need some cherry wood or some light shaker maple, and those appliances need some stainless steel. But like I said, even if it was done right, I don't think it would look good in this house, and I say that just from seeing that door and the moulding.

I like that photo you posted, wulf. It's like a subtle, tasteful blend of modern and old-fashioned. That style would be so much more appropriate here.
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4683 on: March 21, 2012, 06:49:50 AM »
Thanks. We haven't even put a bid in on the house yet but we're thinking about buying it. The house was renovated by a flipper who basically went to Home Depot and bought a big box marked CHEAP HOME RENOVATIONS so there's a lot of character that's been replaced with a lot of bland shit. This is a picture of the kitchen, and the cabinets in question:



In looking at them again I think I think I would try painting them first, and if I feel like I really can't live with it I might look into getting the cabinet doors redone.

What in the world were these people thinking? First of all, you don't live in a remodeled brick-and-timber loft, so you probably don't want to design your kitchen as if you do. But whatever you do, don't half-ass it like that. The floor, counter-tops, and the ugly backsplash everyone is referring to would go perfectly in a loft-style kitchen. The problem here, aside from the fact that style doesn't fit in this kind of house, is those appliances, and especially those cabinet doors, completely clash with the rest of the kitchen. It's like faux country kitchen meets Best Buy clearance sale meets Tribeca. Those cabinets need some cherry wood or some light shaker maple, and those appliances need some stainless steel. But like I said, even if it was done right, I don't think it would look good in this house, and I say that just from seeing that door and the moulding.

I like that photo you posted, wulf. It's like a subtle, tasteful blend of modern and old-fashioned. That style would be so much more appropriate here.

The kitchen and bath would basically have to be gutted. It really makes me so sad, because I feel like the house probably had plenty of character before this flipper came along. Look at the bathroom:



That tub is a thing of beauty and one of the last original items in the house. Around the tub is one of those plastic wall inserts and look at that piece of shit sink. There's a small closet in the bathroom -- how much nicer would a pedestal sink have been? Or tile on the floor instead of that crappy pressboard?

If we buy the house (and I'm not even sure if I really want it) everything would have to be changed in the kitchen and bath. The doorways would have to be fixed because they rounded the edges to look like this:



I mean, the view is great and it's nice and quiet, but I am wondering if at this point it's even worth it. They're asking $160k for it and I told the realtor I was thinking of offering $135k, and she's like, That's really low, how about $145k? But with all the work that needs to be done, if they refuse $135k I'd probably just walk away.
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4684 on: March 21, 2012, 06:57:27 AM »
When I bought my house, it was in bad shape.. They were offering $48,400 for it and I agreed only if they threw in a $5000 repair cost bringing the closing price to $43,400 but wound up spending $15000 in all sorts of repairs (new roof, electrical repair, floor replacement, doors, wall patching and repainting, etc) and now my house is estimated between $145,000 - $150,000 but in todays market it's probably less.. :o

I guess my point is, if it needs a lot of work, shoot them a low-ball figure, but if there's not a whole lot of work that needs done, they may not go for something too low because of all the changes you have in mind. Just my $.02 ;)


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4685 on: March 21, 2012, 07:24:36 AM »
When I bought my house, it was in bad shape.. They were offering $48,400 for it and I agreed only if they threw in a $5000 repair cost bringing the closing price to $43,400 but wound up spending $15000 in all sorts of repairs (new roof, electrical repair, floor replacement, doors, wall patching and repainting, etc) and now my house is estimated between $145,000 - $150,000 but in todays market it's probably less.. :o

I guess my point is, if it needs a lot of work, shoot them a low-ball figure, but if there's not a whole lot of work that needs done, they may not go for something too low because of all the changes you have in mind. Just my $.02 ;)

I understand what you're saying. The house actually doesn't need any repairs. Other than needing a refrigerator and a washer/dryer, it's completely livable. I just think it's fucking ugly. I think that's why the realtor thought my price was too low -- because the flipper put work into the house and they will want a return on their investment. But when I think about what actually has to be done to mitigate my disgust for the place, I don't really want to have a big mortgage payment and have to shell money out of pocket to fix it up.

We're seriously considering this house because we like the property a lot, we just hate the renovations done to the house, and while you can fix up a house to suit your needs, for better or worse you're kind of stuck with the property, and because livable houses in our price range are getting snapped up and I don't want to be a year later and still looking.
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4686 on: March 21, 2012, 07:32:58 AM »
That's it. The guy proly had/found the cheapest shit out there for the sole purpose to flip it for a profit..

At least you can do renovations over time..
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4687 on: March 21, 2012, 10:35:12 AM »
Has the quick flip always been a big thing in real estate? I ask because it seems like it kinda sucks for people looking for fixer-uppers, especially minor fixer-uppers. Take this place for example. The owners clearly didn't know or really give a shit what they were doing, and yet they've increased the monetary value of the house. Unfortunately, they've also probably turned quite a few people off with their cheap, tacky "improvements." And am I right in thinking what they added to the price tag is probably more than what they spent on remodeling?
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4688 on: March 21, 2012, 10:38:16 AM »
I just think it's fucking ugly. I think that's why the realtor thought my price was too low -- because the flipper put work into the house and they will want a return on their investment. But when I think about what actually has to be done to mitigate my disgust for the place, I don't really want to have a big mortgage payment and have to shell money out of pocket to fix it up.

Defiantly low ball and then come up a little if they refuse. 

I like the curved doorways.  But does make it a pain if you wanted to put doors on them....

Would you do the work to replace the cheap flipper crap yourself?   If so you could make the kitchen and bath less ugly fairly quickly without spending a lot.  Wouldn't be that hard to replace that sink with a pedestal and put tile down.


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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4689 on: March 21, 2012, 11:07:45 AM »
If anyone is interested, here are more photographs of the property.

This was definitely a cheap and quick flip, because the realtor told us that the current owners have only had the house for a few months. And that's sort of the nature of the flip -- the longer you pay the mortgage, the more money you lose. It's not surprising they cut corners if they're not planning on living there.

APGIL's no plumber or electrician, but he's pretty good with home repairs, so we would probably do nearly everything ourselves. I've been looking up tile and flooring on the Home Depot website and I think we'd be able to make repairs ourselves without having to spend a ton of money. As I said, the place is completely livable, just ugly, so we could afford a hundred bucks or so a paycheck to put into the house.
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4690 on: March 21, 2012, 01:13:28 PM »
If anyone is interested, here are more photographs of the property.

Is that real stone?  The property is nice, outside of the house is nice, but more pictures of the inside do show they just loaded it up with the cheapest stuff they could get,  not sure I'd go much over $140K for it.

That other photo of the kitchen really shows how ugly it is, but also shows what a quick paint job could do for it:



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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4691 on: March 21, 2012, 02:06:23 PM »
Ha! That's awesome!

Yeah, real stone. As near as we can figure it's granite. The pictures that show the view were taken from right outside the front door and really don't do the view justice. The cornfield across the street slopes way down and you can see for miles. It's really quite stunning.
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4692 on: March 21, 2012, 07:05:18 PM »
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
« Reply #4693 on: March 22, 2012, 12:53:59 PM »
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Re: Completely Random Thoughts
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