CGI

[Pak-Man]

But a lot of Spiderman is possible only with CGI. I'd hate to see a Spiderman movie made before 1990. Spidey's gonna look fake either way, and CGI pulls it off more convincingly than matting and strings. Plus you get stunts and acrobatics that Spidey's supposed to be able to do that a stuntman and/or martial artist couldn't pull off.

[mrbasehart]

But a lot of Spiderman is possible only with CGI. I'd hate to see a Spiderman movie made before 1990. Spidey's gonna look fake either way, and CGI pulls it off more convincingly than matting and strings. Plus you get stunts and acrobatics that Spidey's supposed to be able to do that a stuntman and/or martial artist couldn't pull off.

You never saw the extremely crappy series made in the 70's?

[Pak-Man]

No. I saw it. And I think it proves my point nicely. :^)

[Tyrant]

   I'm with the majority here when it comes to CGI being used as a tool only when all other modern day special effects techiques won't fit the bill, and only then.


   What's getting under my grill way more, however, are these lame CGI 'cartoon' movies coming out that are CGI for no reason other than it's 1) cheaper and 2) faster to produce than traditional cel animation. PIXAR is the only company that has gotten it right because they know their storylines simply wouldn't have enough 'oomph' with traditional animation. But I've seen numerous other movies from different studios that are obviously CGI because it's cool and fast, no other reason.

   And normally I could just avoid the whole shebang except that cel animation has fallen by the wayside in this huge CGI orgy. I know PIXAR seems to be, ironically, the one that will bring it back (I hope), but to see one art medium completely demolish another one (more cherished) is a bit disturbing and not the least bit annoying.

[kodiakthejuggler]

these lame CGI 'cartoon' movies coming out that are CGI for no reason other than it's 1) cheaper and 2) faster to produce than traditional cel animation.

Faster to produce, maybe...

Cheaper??

Not necessarily. Computer Animation is terribly expensive, and nowadays, there's so much of it, that in order to stand out, the producers of the newest animated feature have to create some form of technological leap to stay ahead of the pack. It's just the in thing right now, and a Computer Animated feature is more likely to make money.

[J-Proof]

these lame CGI 'cartoon' movies coming out that are CGI for no reason other than it's 1) cheaper and 2) faster to produce than traditional cel animation.

Faster to produce, maybe...

Cheaper??

Not necessarily. Computer Animation is terribly expensive, and nowadays, there's so much of it, that in order to stand out, the producers of the newest animated feature have to create some form of technological leap to stay ahead of the pack. It's just the in thing right now, and a Computer Animated feature is more likely to make money.

Cel animation is more expensive because more of it needs to be outsourced, and the pre production is so dang long. However, both mediums take about the same amount of time to complete overall.

The most expensive feature cartoon ever made, with inflation considered, is Pinnochio. Probably will stay pinnochio until someone invents something even more hi-tech-crazy than cgi cartoons. Pinnochio required the invention of almost every animated camera technique available.

[Nunyerbiz]

I have no problem with CGI effects, but like any other aspect of a movie, it's jarring and ultimately unsatisfying when something becomes gratuitous. The Superman Returns / bullet to the eyeball is a good example. Everybody knows Superman is bulletproof, the Man of Steel, etc. We've seen bullets bounce off him countless times in comics, cartoons, movies, etc. Was anybody amazed to find out that his eyeball wasn't his achilles heel? I'm not saying shots showing off Superman's already well known abilities are all pointless, but a little restraint goes a long way.

[mydrumsaresick]

My brother in law's cousin own a CGI company called Zoic. They do all the CG for Buffy, Angel, Firefly, The HP commerical where the guys face sticks to the picture. They did Serenity and parts of Spiderman 2 and The day after tomorrow. its cool being in the studio and watch what they do. they guys work their ass off and yet even at moments I'm not to impressed but then again they still can only do so much. all in all I'm happy with the progress CGI is at.

[EVOLUTION117]

p.s. Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children is the future, I'm surprised @ how many people haven't seen it yet?!

Well you have redeemed yourself in my eyes Minnesota.  I am now once again proud to live in you.  Advent Children is amazing.  I wish they would have released it in theaters. 

Yes, Advent Children is an amazing movie, but even something so amazing can be improved upon with the right material. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3Zj4Pilkw

[Variety of Cells]

p.s. Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children is the future, I'm surprised @ how many people haven't seen it yet?!

Well you have redeemed yourself in my eyes Minnesota.  I am now once again proud to live in you.  Advent Children is amazing.  I wish they would have released it in theaters. 

Yes, Advent Children is an amazing movie, but even something so amazing can be improved upon with the right material. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3Zj4Pilkw

That, was absolutely amazing.  It made this rainy day here in Minnesota magically turn sunny. 

[kodiakthejuggler]

p.s. Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children is the future, I'm surprised @ how many people haven't seen it yet?!

Well you have redeemed yourself in my eyes Minnesota.  I am now once again proud to live in you.  Advent Children is amazing.  I wish they would have released it in theaters. 

Yes, Advent Children is an amazing movie, but even something so amazing can be improved upon with the right material. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3Zj4Pilkw

It's even more amazing that they can manage to make the MST3K audio synch up terrifically with the video!!

Did DisembAudio have a hand in this one?!?